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Balzac
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 Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: Re: Michel Gondry says that Games aren't Art. |
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| I think the bigger point to what he was saying was the false sense of acomplishment part, and not so much the time wasting part. Video games are good at giving the sense of accomplishing something even though you havnt done anything that a million or so other people had no problem doing ether. Video games give maximum reward for minimal effort. |
I really hope he actually explains this to his kid rather than, you know, just sort of saying "No games for you!"
Shit. Let him go wild and burn out while he still has all the time in the world to waste. Think about how many hours you wasted watching cartoons or shitty sitcom reruns as a kid. If videogames really are a "low culture" medium, then there's no time like pre-adolescence to experience it fully.
The people I knew growing up whose parents demonized games and strictly limited them, ended up having the opposite intended effect. I'm pretty good proof of that.
Yet the ones whose parents spoiled them rotten (tons of games/consoles, unlimited playing time, assuming good grades) ? They lost all but the most casual interest by the time high school rolled around.
| haze wrote: |
| most people playing videogames treat it more like a sport than enjoying art anyway. |
Videogame fans and sports fans have a hell of a lot in common. Team loyalty makes about as much sense as console fanboyism. |
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Balzac
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:26 pm |
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| haze wrote: |
if videogames could just have one example to reach new levels of pretentiousness never seen before, then maybe the general public will consider it an art form.
it worked for comic books in the 80s! and rock music in the 70s. |
And anime in the 90's.
Oh wait. |
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Balzac
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:37 pm |
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| haze wrote: |
| Balzac wrote: |
| haze wrote: |
if videogames could just have one example to reach new levels of pretentiousness never seen before, then maybe the general public will consider it an art form.
it worked for comic books in the 80s! and rock music in the 70s. |
And anime in the 90's.
Oh wait. |
Ghost in the Shell? yeah, that works! |
To an extent, yeah!
But Miyazaki's stuff has fostered infinitely more mainstream artistic acceptance. Easily accessible viewing with little pretension to speak of.
If theres anything videogames don't need, its incompetent writers slinging pseudo-philosophical storylines that come off as stoner babble. Just look at the post Eva era of anime to see why this is a bad thing. Would you really want something along the lines of a Metal Gear game without the irony? |
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Balzac
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:43 pm |
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| haze wrote: |
| POW BLAM IT'S NOT JUST KIDDIE STUFF. |
YEAH, ITS ANGSTY TEEN STUFF. |
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