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haze
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:57 am        Reply with quote

when I was young I liked watching those really old Alvin and the Chipmunks cartoons they'd play on that Wienerville show. Clyde Crashcup was the true main character there. see I was a very old-school as a child, way ahead of my time.

Wall of Beef wrote:
The one thing I loved about the Batman cartoon, and ever the Superman cartoon, was that each episode was a single event.
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But I believe that Anime Series are/have ruining cartoons.


I think you hit something on the head here. Many years ago I would've disagreed, but now that anime is everywhere on TV and even Western shows are being influenced, I totally agree.

All these hundred-episode series and most people don't even realize it's just copying a serialized comic book's pacing methods. with those, it doesn't even matter what a "season" is! action cartoons don't even need continuity in my opinion, and if it's a drama storyline it'd be nice to keep it to a tidy one season or something.

I've gotten kinda sick of people saying I should check out a boxset of a TV show or read a webcomic, but I "have to start from the very beginning, so you know all the story and characters and don't get lost!" So I decided, screw that, I'm gonna begin randomly in the middle and go out of order, and if I can't enjoy what I see on its own, then it's not worth it. maybe I'm dyslexic but I actually prefer series out of order, it becomes like a puzzle to figure it all out.
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haze
la belle poney sans merci


Joined: 04 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:05 am        Reply with quote

oh yeah, I'm not totally against it. kinda burned out on it, but I can see where it's definitely useful. I just think, action cartoons at least, the story's not so important as anime would have us believe? something like Lost, which is all about character development, that can take its time. though it'd be a pity if it went on for 70 episodes with no conclusion (from some friends who used to be fans of it, it sounded like it's heading that way) so it's all got to be about finding the balance.... and maybe that's too much to ask for. the execs gotta milk their series for the money, after all. some will be more tasteful about it than others.


well anyway, take Naruto for example. I know, it's a kid's show, and it's silly to criticize it. does it really have to focus so much on melodramatic angst? do the story "arcs" really have to go on for 2 years before they conclude? I think the basic premise would make a pretty kick-ass "Saturday Morning Cartoon" for kids... 30 minute ninja adventures of these characters (non-canon!) where the bad guy gets away in the end. maybe every season, a few twists happen and someone switches sides, or whatever. wishful thinking! I just feel like it's redundant, the manga series already has the whole cliffhangers every 18 pages aspect covered.
maybe it's just my personal taste, that I think it's unhealthy if kids growing up start to view everything like this. kinda like gamers that ONLY play jRPGs, if you know what I mean.

I didn't mean to turn this into "complain about anime thread" but I guess popular tastes in both Japanese and American shows might be heading the same direction lately! it's not a bad point to discuss.

(by the way, I thought episodic meant non-continuous? I'm not sure how to use it here)



edit: SUMMARY = KIDS HAVE TOO MUCH ATTENTION SPAN THESE DAYS.
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