[Wall of Beef]

All of Ico is actually a dream that the Crow colossus is having in SotC, but its one of those fever seeing-the-future dreams and it comes true, so thats why they can have the game be legit storywise. But the game itself is just the dream, not the reality.


maybe
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[Mr. Mechanical]

Also, spinach, what's wrong with people wanting to draw connections where there are obviously connections to be drawn and make their own interpretations of a series of events? That's all part of the game beyond the game, man.
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[spinach]

[Mr. Mechanical]

The manual specifically says the horses name is Agro. Not a command, a name.

It's cool, though. Don't worry about it.
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[spinach]

[spinach]

[Mr. Mechanical]

[108]

[Mr. Mechanical]

I stand corrected!
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[Gironika]

[108]

that said, the japanese version of the game puts the word "wanda" right there on the front of the box in big font!

(the manual, however, just calls the main character "the main character". and the horse is "the horse".)

i actually translated the first draft of the english manual, btw, and it was not my decision to give the horse a name; whose it was, hell if i know
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[spinach]

[spinach]

thanks, tim

yeah the first screenshot i saw of the game had a caption underneath calling it "Wanda and the Colossus"

[Dracko]

I always thought the guy was just referenced as the Wanderer, until I was corrected.

I like my idea better anyhow.

It worked for the Prince.

[!=]

[firenze]

[oepn]

Doesn't the main character yell "Agro" when the horse falls off the bridge?

[Cossix]

Guys it never sounded like Agro to me :(

[Mr. Mechanical]

Well it always sounded like Agro to me so there.
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[spinach]

me, neither, cossix

[Tokyo Rude]

I can't believe you're allowing Spinach to holding the argument.

[Sketch]

[spinach]

[negativedge]

[spinach]

poor word choice on my part

[Toups]

[spinach]

actually wait i remember now that wasn't directed at you specifically neggy it was on the general tone of discussions of ueda's work -- everything has to be explained, for example it had to be explained that the extra temples in sotc were for planned colossi which were cut, and the wanderer has to be ico in another adventure

[negativedge]

I think that is an inevitable result of the game's quality. People want there to be more to it. They want to climb the castle and come up with dumb theories. They want to find a beach and think they can find Yorda or something. It is bare enough that people are mythologizing it on their own.

[spinach]

no it isn't mythologizing, it's tying it with something else that's already come and gone in the latter case and in the former it's explaining away a part of the game's mystique as bureaucracy

i mean, if that's your thing go for it but it'd be nice if dudes'd be a little more imaginative

[Dark Age Iron Savior]

[Tlon]

[Swimmy]

I posted The Happiest Monster as a joke, but the more I think about it, the more I want to see exactly that. A game that invokes a pet-like bond with something, followed not by a tear-jerking moment where the pet dies, but a sudden reversal, because what the hell you're still making friends with something wild, and that is what happens in the real world. Everyone would think, "Hey, what is this, a joke?" And some would take it as such. But it would be so much more surprising.
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[Mikey]

Wishing there were more games like Heart of Darkness where children can die in horrible ways ITT

oh damn it this is a terrible top post

[boogalooper]

[108]

oh man, i was in akihabara today, too.
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[Tokyo Rude]

Was about 3 seconds from going to Akihabara today.

[glossolalia]

guys i can't believe you argued for like three pages about ueda canon :(

[Dracko]

ya

Leave pure fantasy settings alone. :(

[wasted potential]

fairly certain Wander yells "Agro!" a couple times too when whistling for him.
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[Gironika]