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BenoitRen
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:24 pm        Reply with quote

spinach wrote:
finally, an aside: most televisions manufactured in the last fifteen years already have digital tuners

Also, most televisions manufactured in the last fifteen years are made so they don't last longer than five years.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:48 pm        Reply with quote

spinach wrote:
oh that's just not true

i got a seven year old box still going strong

1) It is true.
2) I said most.
3) For how much longer?
4) Exceptions affirm the rule.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:45 pm        Reply with quote

Maybe not 5 years, but it's a fact that CRT TVs manufactured after 1995 don't last as long as the ones before. A friend of mine has a CRT TV from the 80s (that he uses for gaming, if I may add) that still works great to this day.

But you can bet that your LCD and plasma TVs won't last longer than five years.

  • Assuming normal use of 4 hours a day, the plasma TV's gas will have been used up after 3-4 years, showing the first discolourations.
  • Often, when you buy an LCD TV, it'll already have one or two dead pixels, which are barely noticeable. In either case, the first dead pixels will appear after two years. After 5 years you'll have about 100 dead pixels, and the electronics will cease functioning.

The TV manufacturers are finding new ways to keep selling TVs to us.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:20 pm        Reply with quote

LCD: It all depends on how often you use it, but what I said is true. If you think it's bollocks, why don't you go research LCD technology and prove that what I say is wrong.

CRT: Say what you want, but it's a fact that CRTs aren't what they used to be. They used to last for 10 to 20 years! My grandparents' worked for 20 years, and like I said my friend's 80s TV still works great.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:14 pm        Reply with quote

The quality control varies greatly from manufacturer to manufacturer.

Modern LCD displays have millions of liquid crystals. The chance for 1 of them to break before even having unpacked the LCD display is big. Over the years many more break. In the beginning you can't see it, but when 25 of them that are near each other are broken you see a spot.

And then you have lazy pixels and dead pixels.

As for plasma TVs: Not gas leakage. Gas that has burned up.

You may have experiences of your own, but my friends also have their experiences, which back up my argument.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:11 pm        Reply with quote

Panoptic wrote:
Dead pixels are typically caused by bad transistors in the processor controlling the liquid crystal array, not the screen itself

This is bullshit. It's liquid crystals breaking. How do you think lazy pixels are formed?
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Benren in evidentiary terminology you have been thoroughly trounced.

I don't think so. We have a couple of people here with their experiences. I have a whole group of friends with their experiences.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:00 pm        Reply with quote

Panoptic, this
Panoptic wrote:
bad transistors in the processor controlling the liquid crystal array

is not the same as this
Wikipedia wrote:
a transistor in the transparent electrode layer

Your source is correct, but what you initially said was not. Hence me calling bullshit.
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