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[Rud31]

I recently finished BoF:DQ and can offer some comments.

There's a retarded amount of design different between the whole game and the ending. The characters look more natural. I also agree with LegatoB that they shouldn't have chickened out at the last 5 seconds. It felt like they wrapped up and finished the game, and sent it off. Then the higher-ups said, "You can't end it like that." So they went back and cut in a few more seconds. I can pretty much say this in confidence when the scene cut to black as soon as Nina fell. Then comes in and she just picks her self up.

Blarg!

This game does have a good battle system, and I appreciate it's design a fuck lot more than say Grandia 2. However! I don't think this game is the greatest thing I've ever played. Hell I don't think it would be in the top 100.

Still I had fun with it. Jeff didn't! The problem here is you are trying to convince him he did have fun with it, or would. He won't though! And Jeff, most of these people did have fun with it. Then again, maybe we still are on the line of discussion and not argument.

Listening to a Beat Crusaders song!
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[Gin]

I like the part where Bosch's arm tears his own heart out or whatever.

That was pretty rad.

Also Nina isn't a living weapon, Ryu becomes one though.

Nina is a living air filter.

Edit: Also the best part of Dragon Quarter is the music. In fact, I don't care if you hate the game jeff, but you should have a listen to the soundtrack anyway.

Probably Sakimoto's best work there.

[Rucio]

Breath of Fire 3 is better.

Devil May Cry 3 is hard as hell. It gets easier as you get better.
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[Gin]

Wha?

BoF3 is a completely mundane jRPG, with pretty much 0 distinguishing characteristics.

So I guess if you want to play the same game that's been made like 59 times, I guess it's fantastic.



But I guess I still like Wild Arms, which isn't much better.

[Rucio]

[BotageL]

[Talbain]

[Gin]

[haze]

am i un-hip for liking the story

i thought it was incredible, conveying this dystopian mood. hell i'll even forgive the ending; i liked the ending too.


curious: is anyone else getting tired of hearing the cop-out argument "if you want a story then read a book instead" or, in another form that's getting popular here lately, "it's a pretty good story.... FOR A GAME. GO READ THE GREAT GATSBY INSTEAD"

[Felix]

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[Rud31]

I agreeing with Ethoscapade's points. Silent Hill 2 is still the closest we have gotten.
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[Felix]

because i'm kind of in the mood all of a sudden, an example i really like:

i was showing the part of colossus where SPOILERS agro dies to my high school film teacher back a year and a half ago, right around the game's release, and his immediate reaction was "is there another way to do that without the horse dying?" i think he kind of took it for granted (especially given the present state of the industry, viewed from the perspective of somebody who doesn't play games) that video games are all about having freedom of experience and what have you. i told him no, and his next question was "well, what would happen if you tried to jump without the horse?" simple, i told him - you die; you get a game over screen; you lose the game.

illustrates the single-minded nature really, really well, i think.

[Predator Goose]

I really like the story in BOF:DQ. It's a simple story, and I think it's less animu or jrpg than you guys give it credit for. I'd say it's even more derivative than that, and can be likened to any story where the hero saves a girl and fights a rival.

And that's what I love about it. It's an incredibly stripped down narrative, in which most of the unecessary details are thrown out. It's a minimalistic story where the characters, the pacing, the dialog, the graphics, and the environment all complement. And it's because it's so basic, and so united with the game itself, that I love it so.
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[Gin]

Yep, Ryu basically lives in a world where he has no reason to live. The theme of the game is desperation.

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[Jeff Garneau]

wow yeah this is definitely not in the top five best ps2 games but thanks for the hyperbole t. rogers.

[Gin]

Well, I recommend going on galbadia hotel and grabbing Electric Power Building at least.

My favorite out of the music there.

Really if you find Sakamoto forgettable or just don't like him in the first place the soundtrack won't really shine to you.

Except for Ranger Base and EPB which are very different from his usual fare.

[haze]

shun the non-fanatic! shun!

[Toups]

I just want to chime in and say that while I do respect sakimoto and appreciate his works they do nothing for me personally and usually go in one ear and out the other.

FFT had a pretty good soundtrack though.

Also:

[Jeff Garneau]

oh shit i just thought of something for fkw

[Jeff Garneau]

sorry ging but you could really be listening to better stuff. hell yes to fft's music though.

recent thought about fft: this game is totally fucking shakespearean in its tragedy. everyone fucking dies in this game. and most of the characters aren't even really evil. god that game is cool.

[Gin]

Oh I like the Tracks from Dragon Quarter mainly cuz they feel so nostalgic for me.

I have no idea where that nostalgia stems from, but it's like some bizarre clean memory of staring up at the summer sky.

That's only Electric Power Building though, which is really the only track I ever like to listen to these days.

Reminds me a bit of Armored Core actually. Maybe that has something to do with it. I remember the first time I played the original armored core on a demo CD being a pretty good feeling time, in contrast to the rest of my life at that age.

[Jeff Garneau]

huh. ok you're forgiven.