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Felix
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:29 pm        Reply with quote

haze wrote:
curious: is anyone else getting tired of hearing the cop-out argument "if you want a story then read a book instead" or, in another form that's getting popular here lately, "it's a pretty good story.... FOR A GAME. GO READ THE GREAT GATSBY INSTEAD"


uh. not really. i think that's "the point" more often than not.

although it's easy to get sidetracked onto something of a broader topic when you bring up stuff like that; games are a new medium, etc., and artistically they have yet to really justify themselves apart from cinema the way that cinema had a hard time justifying itself apart from theater until griffith and his editing techniques came along - logically the turning point with games will be when the narrative is no longer at odds with it being fun to play (end of mgs3, responsibility for actions in colossus, etc.), and in my experience with every "adventure" game ever apart from phoenix wright (for whatever reason), i would rather go read a book because otherwise it's a matter of dealing with the wrong abstractions in the wrong medium.

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..seriously, though!
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Felix
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:56 pm        Reply with quote

because i'm kind of in the mood all of a sudden, an example i really like:

i was showing the part of colossus where SPOILERS agro dies to my high school film teacher back a year and a half ago, right around the game's release, and his immediate reaction was "is there another way to do that without the horse dying?" i think he kind of took it for granted (especially given the present state of the industry, viewed from the perspective of somebody who doesn't play games) that video games are all about having freedom of experience and what have you. i told him no, and his next question was "well, what would happen if you tried to jump without the horse?" simple, i told him - you die; you get a game over screen; you lose the game.

illustrates the single-minded nature really, really well, i think.
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