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slipstream
hates LOTR films
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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 Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:12 pm |
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| Dracko wrote: |
| slipstream wrote: |
| I don't think the UN needs to become more powerful, we just need more leaders that are willing to look seriously at the flaws of their nations and be willing to change. |
Now how do you suggest the UN encourage that, considering how little authority it holds? For all the talk of idealism, no ideal can survive without it being permeated. And that requires force and power.
People aren't going to take the language of the UN seriously because the language of the UN is just plain weak. |
There's no easy way to move beyond the might makes rights mindset of nation states, that I can see. I think countries are more willing to accept that their actions have international ramification in the wake of global warming, kyoto protocols et al. Although Neoconservatism in America kind of monkey wrenches this, I think looking at international relations as a whole, countries and leaders have come to terms with the necessity of interdependence and the need to not be total dicks to each other.
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psiga
saudade
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:27 am |
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| slipstream wrote: |
| Here's where it's difficult for the UN. As an organization dedicated to world peace, it's not.... their first inclination to crucify a country, much less one of the most powerful nations in the world. And unfortunately for the United Nations, America is powerful enough and self sufficient enough to not really be affected by any sanctions, beyond the symbolic sting of not being the cool kid everyone wants to hang out with anymore. |
The darkly pragmatic view is that America will piss away its power in relatively small hissy fits like these until it becomes weak enough for the U.N.'s sanctions to matter. A self-correcting system.
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dark steve
secretary of good times
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: long live the new flesh
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:56 am |
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There were students protesting military recruiters on my campus today, during the career fair. They carried signs and moved in a slow circle around the Army table for about half an hour, then started jogging around chanting for a little bit before leaving. It went something like "Killing Iraqis is Not a Career!/[something that doesn't quite rhyme with this]." The best sign was:
YOU CAN'T BE ALL
YOU CAN BE
WHEN YOU'RE DEAD
and then a little row of tombstones drawn below that.
They didn't seem to notice Raytheon, GE, and the other military contractors in the opposite corner. |
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Shapermc
crawling in his skin
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Chicago via St. Louis
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SplashBeats
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:24 am |
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slipstream
hates LOTR films
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:17 am |
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| Shapermc wrote: |
| I only read the first page, but hey guys, guess what? I'm in the military. Get over it. |
we're over it?
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remote
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:08 am |
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| Joe wrote: |
| The military provides many people a way out of working minimum wage jobs for the rest of their lives. |
| Eric-Jon Rössel Waugh wrote: |
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There's a punchline in here somewhere. |
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