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psiga saudade

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:57 am |
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I don't see the contradiction?
It seems basically that he means to say: The military complex follows government orders with little or no questioning, yet they are (or at least should philosophically be) responsible for their actions as people with the power to corrupt and destroy.
Our nation in its entirity has a thing about 'responsibility' right now; actually stepping up to accept any just makes that person or organization look bad. If we all secretly ignore responsibility, then that must mean that responsible people are as bad as they admit and more! etc.
Attention spans = short, and motivations = emotional, so anybody accepting responsibility just sucks a massive shit storm of SEE? HE ADMITTED IT! before the mob gets distracted by a shiny and moves on to the next hit of pride, greed, fear, or what-have-you.
ALSO! I haven't read the whole thread, just the last couple posts, so if I am like totally omg way off, then just ignore. _________________
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psiga saudade

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:21 am |
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| klikbeep wrote: |
| psiga wrote: |
Attention spans = short
ALSO! I haven't read the whole thread, just the last couple posts, so if I am like totally omg way off, then just ignore. |
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I considered leaving out the last line and just taking the bet that I'd be sufficiently on-topic, but decided to be responsible instead. Which is a "case in point" moment considering the rest of what I said. NON-LINEAR IRONY. _________________
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psiga saudade

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:25 am |
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Morality being relative and all that. Are the people being killed deserving of death? Are the people doing the killing deserving of the 'right' to kill? Who gets to decide who deserves what; this is what Popes and Presidents and the like are installed to do, but what happens if you disagree with them?
Isn't it nice to know what your tax money is going toward things that you disagree with on a personal level? If the war is the President's responsibility, and the killing is the Military's responsibility, then I suppose the funding is our responsibility? Is a 700+ billion dollar war something that we can accept responsibility for? Is it something that we can atone for?
These are all rhetorical questions. I don't really care about the answers. We shouldn't be placed in these situations of possible responsibility in the first place, as far as I'm concerned. _________________
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psiga saudade

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:35 am |
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Please tell us, in excruciating detail, what to tell the lawyers, police officers, government agents, bank employees, etc, when one of us decides not to pay taxes "because there's a Democrat in the office."
Failure to succeed at providing a very compelling and, dare I even say it, legal solution will result in me thinking that you are an idiot. Be advised! _________________
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psiga saudade

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:27 am |
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| slipstream wrote: |
| Here's where it's difficult for the UN. As an organization dedicated to world peace, it's not.... their first inclination to crucify a country, much less one of the most powerful nations in the world. And unfortunately for the United Nations, America is powerful enough and self sufficient enough to not really be affected by any sanctions, beyond the symbolic sting of not being the cool kid everyone wants to hang out with anymore. |
The darkly pragmatic view is that America will piss away its power in relatively small hissy fits like these until it becomes weak enough for the U.N.'s sanctions to matter. A self-correcting system. _________________
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