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JamesE
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But if there's something pure and objective you can never tell us about it
your experience is tainted and subjective
do you... see? |
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GcDiaz
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Clinton, MA
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:40 pm |
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| Mister Toups wrote: |
| Lestrade wrote: |
| So, it looks like it's official? I've never played this, but I probably will now! |
Man just because joystiq makes a post about it doesn't mean it's official. |
Oh man oh man oh man. Right now I'm hoping that Ikaruga is NOT headed to the 360. Why? Because it's known that Treasure has been working on a shmup for the system. But if it's an Ika port instead of an original game, well...I'd be disappointed.
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internisus
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:45 pm |
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| JamesE wrote: |
But if there's something pure and objective you can never tell us about it
your experience is tainted and subjective
do you... see? |
we intuit objects through our subjective experience in every waking moment. |
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Lestrade
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:53 pm |
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| Mister Toups wrote: |
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| So, it looks like it's official? I've never played this, but I probably will now! |
Man just because joystiq makes a post about it doesn't mean it's official. |
FUCK YOU NAYSAYER
YOU CREATE SOMETHING
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gooktime
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:54 pm |
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Haven't they said before that they're definitely working on an XBLA shmup that isn't a port?
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| Man just because joystiq makes a post about it doesn't mean it's official. |
Aye, aye. Joystiq is fucking embarrassing to read, I say. |
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Toups
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Joined: 03 Dec 2006
Location: Ebon Keep
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:56 pm |
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| Lestrade wrote: |
| Mister Toups wrote: |
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| So, it looks like it's official? I've never played this, but I probably will now! |
Man just because joystiq makes a post about it doesn't mean it's official. |
FUCK YOU NAYSAYER
YOU CREATE SOMETHING |
I'm just saying their both citing the same data -- that a (very buggy) demo of the game was on the XBLA development server -- which doesn't necessarily mean anything. No one's made any announcements anyway.
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Lestrade
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:58 pm |
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Dude, I was just quoting some D. I hear what you're saying; you're probably right. I was proving your point by angrily lashing out at you in defiance.
Let's never fight again.
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Waffen
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:38 am |
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I'm surprised in your guy's knowledge of this game.
glad to know I'm not the only obessive fan out there.
guess the Gamecube release really helped its popularity.
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Mikey
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:54 am |
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| I picked it up on the cube but wound up trading it for something else. If they don't charge a fuckton of points for a XBLA port I'd probably pick it up. |
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GcDiaz
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:42 am |
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glad to know I'm not the only obessive fan out there.
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This really didn't occur to you before?
My avatar is also my cellphone background.
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dementia
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:55 am |
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| GcDiaz wrote: |
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glad to know I'm not the only obessive fan out there.
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This really didn't occur to you before?
My avatar is also my cellphone background. |
Cool, my cellphone background is Eboshidori artwork |
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negativedge
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:11 am |
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| Wouldn't it be, you know, smarter to re-release Radiant Silvergun instead? |
I think it's for the same reason it hasn't been ported to anything else yet. A faithful conversion would just be too difficult to achieve. |
No, I'm pretty sure it's Ikaruga instead of RS for the same reason it's SotN instead of Rondo--one has better name recognition, and even if it'd be a greater service to players to provide a game that haven't actually played a thousand times, it's all about the feather-in-the-cap mentality. |
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firenze
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:45 am |
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| Another reason: controllers don't have 6 face buttons any more. Not that you would need them... But it would be nice, says I. |
Never stopped Street Fighter ports ;P Seeing Capcom vs. SNK 2 on a Gamecube made me quite positive nobody gives a shit about proper controller button layouts. And fighting games on portables. Hell, even 6-button Capcom stuff on SNES, PSX/2, and Xbox/360 sort of irks me. Not that I can't use a controller besides the pack-in. Hell, I have a DOA4 stick for my 360 so I have a stick with a nice 6 button layout ready to go.
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| Yeah Ikaruga looks fantastic, but there are so many other awesome games for the system that to say you have it set up only for Ikaruga would mean you are wasting a Dreamcast. |
Here here. And if you think you love Ikaruga enough to dedicate a system to it and you don't like any other shooters, you suck. And if you DO like other shooters and you can't find ANY on DC besides Ikaruga that you like, I think you haven't looked very hard at all.
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| It's safe to say there are quite a few people with Dreamcasts setup soly for playing Ikaruga and then there's the convenience of playing it from a hard drive to consider. |
I absolutely agree that there would certianly be some market for re-selling Ikaruga to people who already own the DC (and inferior GC port) version. But there are probably even more people who never even got the chance to play RSG at all, and surely some of those who do own it and would re-buy it as well. Hell, Ikaruga sells RSG - there are a lot of people who jumped on the Ikaruga bandwagon way after RSG who are now really wanting a crack at the prequel they never played, right?
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| No, I'm pretty sure it's Ikaruga instead of RS for the same reason it's SotN instead of Rondo--one has better name recognition, and even if it'd be a greater service to players to provide a game that haven't actually played a thousand times, it's all about the feather-in-the-cap mentality. |
That's an excellent response. Pretty good analysis of the likely reasoning., even if I don't know that I agree with that logic. I'd sell the Ikaruga name in hyping a game that people who would care might not already own in some form.
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gooktime
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:28 am |
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| Hell, I have a DOA4 stick for my 360 so I have a stick with a nice 6 button layout ready to go. |
How is that stick, by the way? With Ikaruga and/or a new Treasure shmup coming and VF5 in summer... I kinda need one. |
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SplashBeats
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:27 am |
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| dementia wrote: |
| GcDiaz wrote: |
| Waffen wrote: |
glad to know I'm not the only obessive fan out there.
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This really didn't occur to you before?
My avatar is also my cellphone background. |
Cool, my cellphone background is Eboshidori artwork |
Dementia, I'd like to join you in a Strong Punch Color Remy Players Bloc. |
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firenze
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:24 am |
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| gooktime wrote: |
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| Hell, I have a DOA4 stick for my 360 so I have a stick with a nice 6 button layout ready to go. |
How is that stick, by the way? With Ikaruga and/or a new Treasure shmup coming and VF5 in summer... I kinda need one. |
It's OK. Surprisingly solid for a US off the shelf stick. It sort of reminds me of the Dreamcast official sticks (the ASCII aka Agetec Stick sometimes referred to as "Green Goblin"). The Tekken 5 PS2 stick is also of very similar quality, if you're familiar with that one. It's certainly not comparable to hardcore custom sticks or the elite level retail stuff from Japan (e.g. the Hori Real Arcade Pro line). But it's worth what I paid for it, something like $40 on a EB clearance about a year ago.
Clicky Japanese style stick. The buttons aren't half bad, nicely clicky and springy in the convex Japanese style. The design is nice, classic 6 button layout with the RB and LB buttons moved to an unobtrusive top row with the start, back, and Xbox buttons. It supports headsets. I don't know if it's easily moddable.
I don't know how easy it will be to find one or how much they go for on the second hand market. I do know I would find SF2:HF unplayable without it. I also enjoy using it in a lot of XBLA games (honestly the majority of what I play on the system).
Perhaps Sega or HORI will make a high end stick near Virtua Fighter 5's release on 360 like they both did to coincide with VF5's PS3 release. Something to look out for. |
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dementia
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:19 pm |
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| Dementia, I'd like to join you in a Strong Punch Color Remy Players Bloc. |
Cool, I'm game.
Sometimes I go for the Start+Fierce for the Bish/Sephiroth/Alucard look though. |
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