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JamesE banned
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Shapermc crawling in his skin

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Chicago via St. Louis
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:46 am |
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Online Petition?
I mean, really, just put your money where your mouth is. Send nintendo an email with your nintendo.com account name (and make sure to register an obsene amount of games) and say "look at how much I buy! This is also only first party support, imagine my third party support. Don't do this shit I won't take it and am not buying it."
That's what I'd do. _________________
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Focus

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:49 am |
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I'm guessing they'll release a fix, sometime.
Like with that one TG game, I think. Forget which one, though! _________________
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Broco

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Headquarters
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:13 am |
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Yeah it's not surprising that their emulators are a little patchy compared to what we're used to. I mean the state of the art on PC evolved over a decade, and Nintendo had probably about a year to slap together five emulators. Hiring/transferring the necessary largish team of low-level programmers must've been a challenge.
Come to think of it, the incomplete nature of their emulators might have a lot to do with the small and random-seeming VC selection. (I bet Solomon's Key is not very difficult to emulate!) |
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Deets

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:20 am |
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Yeah, they fixed Military Madness' scrolling issues, so perhaps if enough people give a shit they'll fix this issue, too. This password problem doesn't seem gamebreaking at all, either. Unless you desperately wanted to totally pimp Pit out or whatever.
I wouldn't use the euro VC at all, though. It just seems kind of hopelessly terrible. |
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108 fairy godmilf

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: oakland, california
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:29 am |
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protip: if any wii at all import jp wii ok _________________
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Toto

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:31 am |
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James I sent you a PM about this and you didn't reply.
What an arsehole :( |
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SuperWes

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:33 am |
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| 108 wrote: |
| protip: if any wii at all import jp wii ok |
Hey Tim.
What's wrong with you man? You're suggesting that the people who live in America should have to rely on Play-Asia to get overpriced games that we can't even read and aren't guaranteed to be available at a lower price in the future?
You've been in Japan for too long.
-Wes _________________
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Mr Mustache Mean Mr. Mustache

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Bushwick
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:40 am |
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Play it on an nes. _________________ The people are like wool to me |
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Focus

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:50 am |
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I hope they can use Chip N' Dale's Rescue Rangers.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the rest of this. Besides I was just checking the price of Kid Icarus on eBay. Better off getting it on VC, because they just MIGHT put those passwords back in. _________________
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rabite gets whacked!

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:56 am |
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Wes I dig your new avatar. Keep it for a while, okay?
James would you like to play a game or have a perfect recreation of your childhood before you became a bitter trollish aesthete for all eternity, okay? Or perhaps Mustache is right and you just need more pure 8bit, okay?
Rabite now you've finished off that wine and there's nothing left. Retry Yes/No? |
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Deets

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:58 am |
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| I was in a used gamestore the other day. The cheapest genesis game that was worth a damn was $10, and Gunstar Heroes was $30 out of box. I went home and bought Gain Ground on the virtual console. |
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108 fairy godmilf

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: oakland, california
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:06 am |
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| SuperWes wrote: |
| 108 wrote: |
| protip: if any wii at all import jp wii ok |
Hey Tim.
What's wrong with you man? You're suggesting that the people who live in America |
actually it's james' topic so i was suggesting it to him
and he's in england
you've been in america too long to believe that everyone on the internet is in america :(
and what the fuck do you want to read a videogame for? read a book; play a videogame _________________
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SuperWes

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:18 am |
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| 108 wrote: |
actually it's james' topic so i was suggesting it to him
and he's in england
you've been in america too long to believe that everyone on the internet is in america :( |
Ahh. I stand corrected. People in Europe should import everything. They should do it from America though, where games come out earlier, are cheaper, and can be played in English.
The year I was in Japan just happened to be the year that all of the Japanese games started coming out in America first. I was at the Tokyo Game Show standing in line to play Super Monkey Ball 2 even though I already had the US version sitting in my system at home. I did this just to get the free Super Monkey Ball washcloth they were handing out. I explained this to the guy handing out washcloths and he gave me one without making me play it. What a nice guy.
In conclusion: Tim should probably import a US Wii.
-Wes _________________
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108 fairy godmilf

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:20 am |
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lol
naw man jp VC keepin it real dog _________________
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Toups tyranically banal

Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Location: Ebon Keep
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:21 am |
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I... really don't understand why this is a big issue? I mean it's not like Kid Icarus is so prohibitively difficult that you'd ever NEED to use passwords anyway, and besides the virtual console saves your gamestate on anything pre-N64, making the need for passwords more or less moot.
Anyway, as far as I understand it, they didn't remove the entire password system, just the "secret" ones which let you play the entire game from the beginning with full powerups. _________________
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SuperWes

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:08 am |
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I agree with Toups. This is a silly thing to be upset about. It's not like they took Mike D out of NBA Jam or anything.
| rabite gets whacked! wrote: |
| Wes I dig your new avatar. Keep it for a while, okay? |
I was trying to decide between and .
-Wes _________________
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Scofflaw

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:10 am |
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| SuperWes wrote: |
I agree with Toups. This is a silly thing to be upset about. It's not like they took Mike D out of NBA Jam or anything.
| rabite gets whacked! wrote: |
| Wes I dig your new avatar. Keep it for a while, okay? |
I was trying to decide between and .
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mike...mike d is in NBA Jam?
that's the best news I've heard in like, a month
what version, do you know? _________________
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newave

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:14 am |
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| Scofflaw wrote: |
| SuperWes wrote: |
I agree with Toups. This is a silly thing to be upset about. It's not like they took Mike D out of NBA Jam or anything.
| rabite gets whacked! wrote: |
| Wes I dig your new avatar. Keep it for a while, okay? |
I was trying to decide between and .
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mike...mike d is in NBA Jam?
that's the best news I've heard in like, a month
what version, do you know? |
NBA Jam Tournament Edition
http://www.beastiemania.com/qa/videogames.php#nbajam |
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negativedge banned
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:37 am |
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| NBA Jam is so awesome it should have been made by Konami so we could talk about it. |
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Laurel Soup

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Hitsville, USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:54 am |
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| SuperWes wrote: |
| I agree with Toups. This is a silly thing to be upset about. It's not like they took Mike D out of NBA Jam or anything. |
But they took out fuckin' Kim Gordon! _________________
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Toups tyranically banal

Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Location: Ebon Keep
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:00 am |
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| Laurel Soup wrote: |
| SuperWes wrote: |
| I agree with Toups. This is a silly thing to be upset about. It's not like they took Mike D out of NBA Jam or anything. |
But they took out fuckin' Kim Gordon! |
Wait Kim Gordon was in an NBA Jam game? _________________
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gooktime

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:01 am |
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| I wish there were more new wii games. |
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Rud31 forum ruler of Iraq

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gooktime

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:28 am |
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| Mod an Xbox. |
This is the correct solution friends. |
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negativedge banned
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:29 am |
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| but nintendo is cool and m$ is not amirite |
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Laurel Soup

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:51 am |
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| Mister Toups wrote: |
| Wait Kim Gordon was in an NBA Jam game? |
You bet, all of Sonic Youth was in the Saturn version of TE. _________________
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Rud31 forum ruler of Iraq

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gooktime

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:09 am |
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| negativedge wrote: |
| but nintendo is cool and m$ is not amirite |
developers developers developers more like innovation innovation innovation
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| You bet, all of Sonic Youth was in the Saturn version of TE. |
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teecee

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:00 pm |
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| Deets wrote: |
| I was in a used gamestore the other day. The cheapest genesis game that was worth a damn was $10, and Gunstar Heroes was $30 out of box. I went home and bought Gain Ground on the virtual console. |
i picked up gunstar heroes recently with box & instructions for 3 dollars? also phantasy star 4 with box, same price? is that good. :/ |
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NightsB
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:35 pm |
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i rebought kirby's adventure on vc and the framerate is totally destroyed >:( don't buy it. my nes just died the other day, too
i give it two stars (out of thirty) |
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dmauro

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:07 pm |
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| gooktime wrote: |
| Rud13 wrote: |
| Mod an Xbox. |
This is the correct solution friends. |
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Focus

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:56 pm |
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i rebought kirby's adventure on vc and the framerate is totally destroyed >:( don't buy it. my nes just died the other day, too
i give it two stars (out of thirty) |
I haven't noticed any big changes in framerate in Kirby. I think it plays fine, but I haven't really played the NES one in ages.
I give it two stars out of 2.83 stars. _________________
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rye
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:26 pm |
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| dmauro wrote: |
| gooktime wrote: |
| Rud13 wrote: |
| Mod an Xbox. |
This is the correct solution friends. |
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JamesE banned
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:32 pm |
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Hey everyone who's telling me this isn't an issue:
It's not about Kid Icarus. It's about doing the job properly and doing the job properly in future.
If indie devs can do mapper support, I expect mapper support from the company that made the mapper.
If a company is trying to sell me a service, I do not expect it to be less than a famiclone. |
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Focus

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:56 pm |
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I see your frustration, or, well, you know what I'm trying to say. However, the most you can do at this point is to not buy the specific product, and then tell Nintendo, "I am not going to buy this because you did X wrong or you did not even include X."
Once again, I'm sure a fix will pop up within the next few weeks. _________________
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Deets

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:57 pm |
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| I think the issue is more that - is it even confirmed that this is a mapper issue? Why do the non-cheaty passwords even work if that's the case? I'm seriously interested in hearing the answer to this! |
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showka
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:57 pm |
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| JamesE wrote: |
Hey everyone who's telling me this isn't an issue:
It's not about Kid Icarus. It's about doing the job properly and doing the job properly in future.
If indie devs can do mapper support, I expect mapper support from the company that made the mapper.
If a company is trying to sell me a service, I do not expect it to be less than a famiclone. |
For once I second everything James is saying.
Also a site would be a great idea assuming it was done well. I think its better than taking the time to write Nintendo a letter they wouldn't even give Reggie to wipe his ass with.
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| and what the fuck do you want to read a videogame for? read a book; play a videogame |
I always assumed a love of videogames played a part in your move to Japan and original desire to learn the language. If that's true then this statement seems disingenuous. |
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NightsB
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:51 pm |
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i rebought kirby's adventure on vc and the framerate is totally destroyed >:( don't buy it. my nes just died the other day, too
i give it two stars (out of thirty) |
I haven't noticed any big changes in framerate in Kirby. I think it plays fine, but I haven't really played the NES one in ages.
I give it two stars out of 2.83 stars. |
so you don't notice when the game slows down to a near halt when more than two sprites are moving on the screen at once? or even when kirby is the only thing on the screen and you use a spark or freeze attack?? |
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icycalm banned
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:56 pm |
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| Rud13 wrote: |
| Mod an Xbox. |
You can't get true low-res from emulators running on the Xbox.
The best way to emulate games has always been on PC. Everything else is a compromise.
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| 108 wrote: |
| and what the fuck do you want to read a videogame for? read a book; play a videogame |
I always assumed a love of videogames played a part in your move to Japan and original desire to learn the language. If that's true then this statement seems disingenuous. |
Perhaps he figured it out along the way. |
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Focus

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:02 pm |
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| NightsB wrote: |
| Focus wrote: |
| NightsB wrote: |
i rebought kirby's adventure on vc and the framerate is totally destroyed >:( don't buy it. my nes just died the other day, too
i give it two stars (out of thirty) |
I haven't noticed any big changes in framerate in Kirby. I think it plays fine, but I haven't really played the NES one in ages.
I give it two stars out of 2.83 stars. |
so you don't notice when the game slows down to a near halt when more than two sprites are moving on the screen at once? or even when kirby is the only thing on the screen and you use a spark or freeze attack?? |
Um. Yes. I thought it was like that originally? These cobwebs, you know.
I don't LIKE spark or freeze anyways! _________________
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