[Toptube]

GT5 update in a nutshell:


- Deformation for every car in the game although race cars will see even more damage
- First screens of GT5's night racing
- 1,000+ vehicles, all with modeled interiors
- Up to 16 players online
- Indy cars and tracks will be included
- Head tracking is reconfirmed and it's for use during racing
- Multi display is back (using 3 PS3's for a wider view)
- HD uploads to YouTube
- Weather
- Night racing for all tracks
-- Night & Day cycle and weather effects on all tracks

[Gironika]

I see no "better AI"-part up there, but hope dies last etc.
If they can pull off what they are saying here, well. Worth a bargain-bin buy at least then!
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck the tier 4 and 5 supercars in shift are insane.

the sense of speed is AMAZING. But I don't know if its possible to keep the car on the track and still go fast enough to win on hard. GOD.

[RobotRocker]

RISE THREAD, RISE

'Cause Dirt 3: "We are sorry for all that Americanism, we swear its going to be drizzly days in the Welsh countryside with soggy ham sandwiches and a Thermos full of lukewarm tea while watching stupidly powerful cars scream by at 100mph and nearly kill us" is officially on the way as confirmed in the latest Edge. Its going to tone down the Americanisms and get back to the root of the series. Will still probably have Pastrana and Monster Energy/Red Bull sponsorship all over the place but sounds a bit more tolerable.

I guess racing game talk has dried up for the minute since the new trend is to get in on the arcade racing bandwagon. Split/Second kinda looks nice though the "holy shit did you see that?" factor seems like it will wear out in time once you get used to the route changers and power plays. The handling looks a bit off too. I'm willing to give it a chance because it looks spectacular and it could fill the rut that Burnout dug for itself but the recent footage has been lacking the spark the concept needs. A demo might work, but this game needs to be a ton more frantic.

Anyone get in the Blur beta? I've been hearing less than stellar things about it like the game design being all over the place (e.g. getting hit by power-ups will damage your car but smacking into a wall will just bounce the car off like a bumper car) and that its trying too hard to be Mario Kart mashed up with Call Of Duty. I kinda want it to be successful because Bizarre really need a hit to prove themselves to Activision but at the same time, no one needs to give Activision any more money.

Also, if everyone is getting back on the Arcade racer bandwagon. Where is AM2? They have to be plotting something.
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[Rud31]

I did go, "Where IS AM2ohwaitvirtuafighternevermind."
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[Schwere Viper]

That DiRT 3/Codemasters post reminds me: any gearheads on here ever try TOCA Race Driver 3? I've heard some good things about it, and it's only ten dollars on Steam.
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[Schwere Viper]

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[Gironika]

[RobotRocker]

[Gironika]

Man, I can only imagine how cool that'd be if Codemasters would get rid of double diffusors and problems like airflow over frontwings, winglets, patchboards etc. and basically give us F1 2010:The 1990ies. I expect stockcar-like banging wheels and damage levels on Arcade-Style though ... please let me be wrong with this one.



p.s.:
I tried to play F1 2001 last year and wondered how I even remotely could be tricked into spending more than 2 minutes with that .... game-thing.
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[Gironika]

[cantimechanica]

[Rud31]

What's funny about this (and we talk a bit about it in the upcoming podcast) is they literally did the same thing for Gran Turismo 3 and 4. Add features, remove features, delay. Internium (insert real word that means game released to hold off until next major release) Gran Turismo going to be released then canceled.

I guess they did the same thing for Gran Turismo PSP.

I wish other development studios had the freedom they have.
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[sethsez]

[RobotRocker]

F1 2010 development Diary

Kinda hoping they will leave the 2009 cars in as an un-lockable. Otherwise, its looking pretty solid and hopefully a 24 car field wont bog down the Grid engine too much.
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[Gironika]

Most complex weather simulation something stuff bla ever in a videogame .... man, I'd be happy if they just get it "right", no need to top all other games. Fancy talk, let's hope that they can deliver.
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[Gironika]

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[sethsez]

[Toptube]

oh well nevermind then. Dirt is a really fun game, but the dirt isn't very good.

[RobotRocker]

[Drem]

Recently at this somewhat nearby used game store, I saw this PS3 GT-branded driving wheel/pedals set. I think it was this Logitech Driving Force GT. Does anyone know if it's good? It was $35 (this store has really good deals on games/hardware), but decided to pass on it because I didn't know what driving wheels are good.

[Toptube]

I guess the GT PS3 branded wheel would share the 3rd place spot wih the PS2 GT4 wheel (driving force pro?). The only difference between the two is the little read knob that lets you adjust braking bias, TCS, and suspension damping on the fly. Really mostly pointless since those things are available in game. If GT5 is extremely realistic, it could be useful if you need to compensate for tire wear or weather change in a long race.

The G25 is the second best.

The G27 is the first best.


I think the key differences in the G2* series over the GT and Pro are much higher build quality, more elegant force feedback, and a lot of extra hardware for shifting and clutch.


The driving force GT is an absolute steal at $35, even used.

[Teflon]

I wonder if they spent thousands of man hours programming faithful KERS simulation, fuel strategy AI and refueling animations into F1 2010. The FIA kept the actual TEAMS in limbo regarding the final 2010 rules, it must've been rough trying to make a game about it.

Also I enjoyed the loudness of DiRT 2 and thought its americana was a really clever way to have some legit rally cars and drivers without needing a WRC license.

Also also seeing a Monster Energy logo on 41-year old M.Schumacher's helmet kind of made me cringe.

[Gironika]

[Schwere Viper]

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[Teflon]

Damn that guy is just chilling while drifting through hairpins, he must be Finnish.


I think I'll try and get my hands on F1 2009 (the Wii one) to get a feel for the tracks. I always feel more involved watching Monaco because of driving it three billion times in Gran Turismo, I'd like to extend this knowledge.

Also the FIA fully allows teams to rock KERS in 2010, it's just that nobody wants to. Of course some kind of imaginary competent motorsport governing body would then change the rules so teams WOULD want to run this exciting futuristic overtaking-enabling tech but eh.

[Toptube]

[Teflon]

F1 2009 is pretty much unplayable without a Classic controller (and Cube controllers don't work because L2 and the plus/minus buttons are just that vital to the gameplay experience).

So! I dicked around on the PC side of things and ended up installing rFactor, grabbing a fanmade (stolen from ye olde GP4 actually) Sepang and running free practice sessions on it in this dinky little Formula Ford type car. It was a pretty good time.

[Gironika]

funny thing you mention that, I took a Le Mans Prototype in GTR2 for a spin (well, literally) on Sepang today and wished that someone would go and make a Le Mans-style simulation that is easy to mod (kind of like GTR2, only ... newer).


Speaking of easy to mod - I wish that Forza Motorsport 3 would be moddable. I can't help but feel that the game is missing a vital option, namely adjusting the responsivity of the steering. I've seen cars moving from left to right on tracks where you clearly can tell whether the player uses a pad or a wheel, and it sucks that MS doesn't offer the option to adjust that. Even ENTHUSIA on the PS2 offered an option to fine-tune this, and if you had a car that didn't react like you wanted, you coul at least try and see whether it worked better afterwards.
And I don't like using dirty methods like applying ridiculous chamber-settings on the front wheels to make the car turn in less to make it driveable without ending up in the dirt.
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[Schwere Viper]

High-level RR6 play is a thing of beauty.
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[geinou]

Looks good, looking forward to it. Yet, I think that the controls will suck ass...

Also: I really hate that you cannot do custom races in Forza 3. You have to sign in to Xbox Live and make your own private room to do that.

[RobotRocker]

OK I can get on board with those screen shots.

Also one of the Codemasters devs said in Edge that during the first development meeting, they made a powerpoint slide that just said on it "GRAND PRIX 3". Anyone who hadnt heard of it was politely requested to get a copy of it straight away and learn from it. So its got the right ideas, lets see if they can get the execution right.
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