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DJ
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 Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:25 pm |
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I'm curious. Assuming you're not heavy into programming, what's the appeal of Linux besides "lol M$ free" and/or as a rescue disc like Kap said? Just to fart around with a new OS and self-educate, or...?
I tried using Ubuntu a ways back and, like Toups, struggled with it. It seemed like a massive chore to get anything to work (graphics/sound card, web browser, basically anything not specifically written for the OS) and 90% of the stuff I used my computer for (games, music, video, photo editing, sweet, sweet piracy) were incompatible from the get-go. After a 24-ish hour trial run I switched back to Windows and have never looked back. It didn't even seem worth learning, as I had zero practical use for it. Anything Linux could do, Windows could do better and with orders of magnitude less hassle.
As much as I love the idea of Linux, it still seems like a programmers-only club to me.
I do want to like it though. Bah.
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DJ
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:52 pm |
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| stotelheim wrote: |
| For me, it's about quality software, security and privacy. |
I guess that makes sense. The software bit would take some searching, I imagine, but the security and privacy boost is indisputable.
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DJ
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:44 am |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| You can't say Linux doesn't work for you just because one distro didn't. |
Got one that will detect and run an nVidia graphics card and Sound Blaster 24, work with Firefox, run MAME, Steam, World of Warcraft, Photoshop, F.E.A.R., assorted indie games, uTorrent, Media Player Classic, and WinAmp? In other words, got one that has near-universal compatibility with Windows programs without having to do a lot of programming gymnastics just to get basic things to work? If so, sign me up.
The only reason I don't use Linux is because 90% of the stuff I use doesn't work on it, and it's simply not worth re-downloading what are usually inferior or bootstrapped versions of (or drivers for) the stuff I use. For the record, this is also why I won't be switching to Vista any time soon, either. I have no reason to whatsoever; it would actually be detrimental for me to move to Vista at this point, because most of my shit would instantly stop working.
Windows XP, on the other hand, could use three times its current memory, be a fourth as fast and electrocute my balls at random intervals while I use it; it runs my programs, and other OSes do not. Period. Points about the efficiency of Linux can be (and I'm sure are) perfectly valid, but it means nothing to me. That's like saying "This car gets 200 miles to the gallon, is crash proof, has heated seats and a blowjob simulator...But you can't drive it on roads."
It's the same reason I don't use a Mac (besides the price). I've got no love for WinXP, but that's what I need if I want to do all this stuff.
I can see the usefulness of Linux if you do zero computer gaming, but that just ain't the case for me, and there's pretty much no way around it. It renders Linux 100% useless for me. Honestly, if I could find a distro that would run any game windows XP could, I'd be willing to work out getting the drivers running and swapping out a few other programs to make the switch. Right now, though, it's like you can more-or-less approximate everything WinXP can do with Linux except games, where Linux is just completely dead in the water.
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DJ
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:35 am |
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| Baron Patsy wrote: |
| You know, I've been told that WINE can run a lot of modern games very well. And there are actually quite a few games that run in Linux! All of id's games and games that use the Unreal (I think) engine are Linux-compatible, as well as a few other high-profile games. |
Yeah, id is the big exception to the rule (kinda like how all Blizzard games are hybrid Mac compatible).
Didn't know about WINE, though! Hmm.
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DJ
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:52 pm |
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| gooktime wrote: |
| Seriously though, you guys who want to have your cake and eat it with a unix-based programmer centric OS that is also friendly and hard to break should get OSX. |
Exact same complaint I have with Linux: No games, or if they are there, they're either a pain in the ass to get running properly or they suck.
Unless you're talking about Blizzard games, and those still work fine on Windows.
For a gamer, nobody has yet to offer any legitimate reason to move away from XP, and I'm pretty sure such a reason doesn't exist.
That's not a bad thing! I'm not shitting all over other OSes. If I had something that I could move to with a minimum of fuss, I'd do it just so I wouldn't be using XP. BUT. The simple fact of the matter is that it's going to be a fuckload of work to get most of my stuff up and running on any other OS, and that's if it'll run at all, which is a rather dark shade of "maybe" at best.
So yeah. As cool as I find the whole concept of Linux, XP is a necessary evil at this point.
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DJ
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:24 pm |
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| Talbain wrote: |
| Just don't upgrade to Vista. Shit stops working real fast. =/ |
Oh I have zero intention of moving to Vista until it becomes the new XP.
Basically, my OS is whichever is most popular, by virtue of the fact that it will be able to run the most stuff by default (which is honestly all I give a fuck about). Vista...Yeah, no. Not yet, and not for a while.
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