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Toups
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yeah we need to meet beforehand in the server and equalize our volumes next time
also, you guys have to use headphones. otherwise we get echo off your speakers into your mic |
YES. before you do anything else, do this. at first I turned the volume up so that I could hear p1 (who does sound a lot like the Terminator; is that an audio filter or something?). Couldn't keep it that way because Cuba (who talks almost exactly the way he writes) was too loud then. Actually Cuba was just right and p1 was way too low.
P1, this could be a problem with your soundcard not being able to handle the resistance of your mic. Or your mic just sucks.
So, I was listening to this while riding the bike and that made some noise too. I didn't want to fiddle with the volume all the time so all I could hear was mostly unintelligible chatter from p1daone and, I think, Renfrew, with Cuba coming out just fine. This wasn't too bad because Cuba made the best jokes anyway. Was the best speaker all around. Was the only one who had some showmanship.
Toups joined and was so loud I could smell his bad breath.
Basically nothing was said that I did know already. Nothing that was enlightening in any way. Cuba was great fun and Toups was a cool and relaxed speaker.
Still, even they failed to elevate the videogame talk to a meaningful level... there were many missed opportunities. Many, many missed opportunities. In a way this felt like a final "goodbye" to the old days of insert credit, FFDog and Tim's various other videos. It was just fanboy talk. You really played it straight. (Did you see Tropic Thunder? Robert Downey Jr.'s "you don't go full-retard" speech?) You just straight up talked about videogames, without any kind of insight, without putting it into any kind of relation to the world at large or your personal lives. And I don't mean saying "I love God Hand!!". I am talking about communicating a personal philosophy, your way of making sense of the world.
Really, the only thing I remember about it now is that Cuba called himself a cynic and lazy, and how he's not interested in changing people's behavior. Which was pretty interesting and one of those missed opportunities to tie in videogame shit with something that actually matters. Or vice versa. I also remember his TMKF diss ("Cuba, do you have something more interesting to say than me?") that was just way too fucking good. I thought of that one a split second before he said it. Made me laugh so hard. I also remember that apparently nobody had a mathematical understanding of games like Chess and Go, and so nobody could talk about their relation to videogames properly. Even though TMKF supposedly learned about them in Game Class. Hell, even little things like why people hate you for playing a certain class or mastering a certain weapon in an online game weren't made sense of, even though there was the question of what kind of behavior can and cannot be changed through changes in rule sets. Just so much obvious stuff that would be applicable to other areas of life. That would let you see the connections.
None of this has to do with the fact that this was your first recording, I don't think. It's just something that's... personality, perhaps. Let's just say that it makes Brandon, Tim and Eric-Jon even more impressive than they already were in my mind. They've just become a bit rarer.
Oh yeah: TMKF, you sound exactly the way you look, not the way you write! And that "damn you people!" actually reminded me of Brandon. That was pretty funny.
In closing: Everybody get the kind of mic Toups had because it sounded the most high res. And good luck in the future with this. |
I was using a $200 condenser mic, so...
anyway I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU MAKE A PODCAST BBP ;__;
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:51 pm |
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I am putting this onto my chubby old ipod as we speak
this chubby old ipod is full of the runaway 500?
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Toups
tyranically banal
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:56 pm |
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falsedan you should listen to my newer recordings, in which I occasionally create the half-way successful illusion that I know how to sing
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This Machine Kills Fascis
Unfinite Indiscovery
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:02 pm |
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Autotune Toups: it will fix your lack of talent (JK!!!)
Wait Toups: if you were using a professional music dude mic why the hell was there so much--oh wait: is it because Vent handles a higher quality input by upping the volume and thus the distortion?
I don't really know about such things. Someone explain.
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Toups
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:06 pm |
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there was a consistent buzz in my signal because the one and only eighth inch cable I have is really shitty and due to retarded pro tools DRM I have to go through a series of absurd hoops to use a mic on my PC
I really just need some more adapters
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This Machine Kills Fascis
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:12 pm |
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| one very relevant piece of information is that it only ever had three or maybe max four people on it at a time. this relates to what i was talking about at the end yesterday, how the confusion and trepidation is more a function of the sheer number of people + technical inevitabilities and probably isn't curable. |
Yeah, I agree in the long run, but with these audio meet ups I think it's important to get as many people as possible to participate. It's important to build a base of talent and to encourage people enough that they can get comfortable with the medium/technology. Once a lot of people have had a go we'll have a pool of people to pick from with different strengths and weaknesses.
Guys: there's going to be a lot of preproduction and trial runs before we really have anything to show for it.
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Toups
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:14 pm |
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that's okay
it's been tons of fun so far
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This Machine Kills Fascis
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:30 pm |
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Good point.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:31 pm |
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The reason I wanted to record something now is simply so this project doesn't get lost to the depths of the Axe. I feel that forward momentum is very important.
I will get a new mic this week, I was using the built in mic on my laptop.
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another coma
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:32 pm |
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If you guys keep going with this (you should) I hereby enthusiastically volunteer to clean up/edit/add music to the final product.
Audio is how I make a living these days. I can help out with (some of) the volume issues in post, cut out all of the stumbles and awkward pauses and make it NPR smooth without much effort, if you guys really wanted. I assume you probably don't WANT it that smooth, since doing that actually sucks some of the spontaneity out, but if this is a podcast you want people to be able to digest easily then it helps to make cuts here and there.
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P1d40n3
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:35 pm |
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If you guys keep going with this (you should) I hereby enthusiastically volunteer to clean up/edit/add music to the final product.
Audio is how I make a living these days. I can help out with (some of) the volume issues in post, cut out all of the stumbles and awkward pauses and make it NPR smooth without much effort, if you guys really wanted. I assume you probably don't WANT it that smooth, since doing that actually sucks some of the spontaneity out, but if this is a podcast you want people to be able to digest easily then it helps to make cuts here and there. |
Thanks man!
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This Machine Kills Fascis
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:57 pm |
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Rud13, that is the worst excuse I have ever heard.
| B coma wrote: |
If you guys keep going with this (you should) I hereby enthusiastically volunteer to clean up/edit/add music to the final product.
Audio is how I make a living these days. I can help out with (some of) the volume issues in post, cut out all of the stumbles and awkward pauses and make it NPR smooth without much effort, if you guys really wanted. I assume you probably don't WANT it that smooth, since doing that actually sucks some of the spontaneity out, but if this is a podcast you want people to be able to digest easily then it helps to make cuts here and there. |
B coma, that would be absolutely awesome! (This is what I was waiting for.) If you have time, I'd love to see what you can do with even the raw audio we have now, just so there's a gauge of what sort of magic can be done. (You wouldn't have to do the whole thing; it could be a test.) And I'd love to hear both a casual cut and an NPR cut of one of these at some point (though of course it comes down to how much of your time we can monopolize).
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:55 pm |
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b coma you are a god damned hero.
guys i think in terms of volume and quality of input (i mean physically speaking, the technical sound of it, not my content or whatever) i probably sounded the best and all i have is like a cheapo $20 usb headset/mic thing. please please please don't ignore my point about headphones. i mean if you want to use a separate crazy mic that's cool but don't let sound come out of the speakers where it can feedback into your mic.
also vent has input/output volume sliders so if we tell you you're too loud you can just turn your input down until we tell you you're cool. and vice versa.
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Toups
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:11 pm |
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yeah I'd err on the side of smoothness, honestly
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another coma
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:28 pm |
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yeah, definitely get headphones. phasing is the enemy.
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Renfrew
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:07 am |
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| If we're doing this again this Sunday somebody can take my spot. I'll be out of town. |
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P1d40n3
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:19 am |
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I'm gonna dig up my old headphone-mic combo from...somewhere.
Is this coming Sunday cool for people?
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This Machine Kills Fascis
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:14 am |
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Do we want to decide on a limit? Like: no more than four or five people? That's still sort of a lot for a podcast, but it might be fine for another meet up. And again: if there are five people that aren't me that want to show up, I will gladly bow out. It'd be nice if it could be nearly all new people actually, with maybe Pi, Toups, or Cuba as moderator. (I personally favor Toups in that role, so far.)
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:32 am |
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| BBP, have you actually heard Brandon talk on a podcast? It's not as if he rattles off words of wisdom, nor does Tim by the way. |
Sure, have you? I've heard to the podcast he did together with Christian Nutt on.... some site, I forgot. And I've transcribed a few of Brandon's interviews for Gamasutra in the past. I think that's close enough to a podcast. He's pretty damn bright. Great to listen to. Tends to forget a lot of important things, tends to remember a lot of obscure things. Tends to be a confident Californian sunnyboy that people can't help but like.
It's like I said. I liked Toups' and Cuba's personalities and they were cool to listen to. You could put them in a steel pipe under the sea and let them send Morse code and it would still come through. It's got nothing to do with the technical side of things, nor with having to find a format or whatever. For example, no matter what you do with those kinds of things, you'll always sound like a whiny little bitch to me. It's not your voice, it's what you say and how you behave. And it's just not what I wanna hear. So, the only thing to change there -- or, the top priority -- would be self-improvement. Being the man that you are you of course don't see it that way. I can't really care!
It's not like I compare a spoken discussion to a written essay. Doesn't matter though because when it comes to written essays I also prefer Cuba's over Toups' over yours and p1's. And Cuba even talks the way he writes, so there's that. That probably didn't fall from heaven; he made it so. You can hear the fucking lawyer speak when he's on and that's great. On the other hand you can hear the smoked out, groupie lovin' rockstar speak when Toups is on. Also great.
It's not like it's got to do with lag because if you listen to the podcast you'll notice that some people handled it better than others. They just kept on talking and got their points out there while the others timidly backed off. Sometimes too early. See, everybody had basically the same environment to work with and some did better than others. Team Fortress 2 reference goes here.
It's not like what I think is representative of the Average Person, so to those people you could be... something else, I don't know. They seem to mostly boil down their criticisms to either "great" or "gay", so I'm guessing that you'd get these kinds of responses from them in whatever kind of ratio.
short version: fuck you for taking this personal like a whiny little bitch, i guess, and fuck you for not taking it personal enough also
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| Also, I'm doing this to improve myself. I'm not happy with my level of cognition concerning these things and my lack of real participation in discussions. I see this podcast as a real kind of do or die type of situation that will hopefully force me to raise my abilities and help me to participate in more thoughtful discussions. |
And that's the right attitude. |
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:14 am |
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| i'll be in vermont this weekend so |
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| If we're doing this again this Sunday somebody can take my spot. I'll be out of town. |
Enjoy yourselves!
So Renfrew and Cuba are out. I believe TMKF said he was willing to give up his spot on the podcast if someone wants it, and I am willing to do the same.
I too like the idea of Toups as a mod. The King of the Podcast, so to speak.
We could let the first 10 minutes just be people getting their sounds checked, so that's no biggie.
BBP, thank you for your feedback. I don't entirely agree with the direction you want to see the podcast go (personality is cool, but to much could distract from the points we are making/trying to make), but thank you for putting real thought into your criticism.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:32 am |
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Thanks for being so nice, Pi. I hope I did make it obvious that I'm supporting you guys. (Said something to that extent in pretty much every post ITT, so...) I am cheering you on, and I do care, which would explain why I downloaded the recording, listened to it and gave you my thoughts on it. But really I'm not trying to give you any kind of direction, I'm just saying what I personally like the most. I don't know who came up with the idea for the podcast but that's probably the guy that will give it direction. I'm just a critic.
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| I too like the idea of Toups as a mod. The King of the Podcast, so to speak. |
You mean the Shah of the Podcastian Empire? The Lord of Masturbearding? The God-Emperor of the Holy P.O.D.? The Podcast Czar? (cue psiga) |
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This Machine Kills Fascis
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:58 am |
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BBP, my response wasn't personal. I'm okay with your opinion of me, because I don't put much stock in your opinion; from what you've said, I think the opinion is mutual. So we have a lot of opinions don't we?
I actually love honest criticism, because I'm personally obsessed with self improvement. My problem was not that your criticisms were personal (they weren't really), it's that they weren't constructive, and that I disagree with the shape that you'd like the show to take.
Also, you have never read one of my essays. I'll PM you one or two if you'd like. Though I haven't written any lately, so I can always fall back on the "That's what I wrote like a year ago!" excuse. But then we're all in flux, aren't we? Anyway, if I send you an essay and you tell me what you think, then I'll care about what you have to say if your criticisms have something to do with the intent of the work and seem to hail from some version of reality. Otherwise, I'd probably disregard your opinion. This is sort of how criticism works.
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Toups
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:10 am |
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honestly, I think who is moderating is immaterial.
bbp I think your criticisms are valid.
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BBP, my response wasn't personal. I'm okay with your opinion of me, because I don't put much stock in your opinion; from what you've said, I think the opinion is mutual. So we have a lot of opinions don't we?
I actually love honest criticism, because I'm personally obsessed with self improvement. My problem was not that your criticisms were personal (they weren't really), it's that they weren't constructive, and that I disagree with the shape that you'd like the show to take. |
see, I disagree with that. it was constructive criticism because I told you exactly what I wanted to hear. I wanted the videogame stuff made sense of in relation to other RL things. I told you these things and I'm sure Cuba knows what I was talking about because he has written a videogame review in the past that was IN TRUTH thinly veiled social critique. I told you I would have wanted someone with a mathematical understanding of chess -- it's rules, it's structure, it's complexity -- to make sense of it and how it relates to videogames, when the opportunity presented itself. (Or someone with an understanding of Go's complexity, which is much higher than chess'.) I told you I liked the relaxed speakers, the confident speakers, people with showmanship, as that's what I'd enjoy listening to.
i don't know how much more constructive than that i can get. want me to hand you a script or something?
so, constructive criticism: eat some omega-3 and play a lot of brain training lol
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I don't give a shit about the shape of anything, I just care about interesting people. Told ya that as well. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:26 am |
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honestly, I think who is moderating is immaterial.
bbp I think your criticisms are valid. |
Toups, I remember your DOOM review
you were pretty hot back in the day!
i would not mind reading 2009-Toups reviews to see WHO YOU BE these days |
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Toups
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:40 am |
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I wrote a review of actraiser a few months ago on abdn...
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This Machine Kills Fascis
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:55 am |
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BBP, telling an apple that you like oranges better is not constructive criticism.
To be clear: I'm not talking about me.
To demand that we have an expert on go and chess present simply because we happened to mention them is passing is unreasonable. To demand that the participants should somehow be able to create complex thematic structures, organically, from a casual, five-way, technology stilted conversation is unreasonable. To say that the problems in a fledgling project have nothing to do with the fact that it is a fledgling project and everything to do with the fact that there is some ill-defined yet pervasive philosophical and intellectual deficit at hand is unreasonable.
It would be reasonable (and indeed: constructive) to say, "Right now it feels like you guys are rambling and not really coming up with any higher level insights. I think it would help if you guys were more organized, planned the discussion out more, maybe had a moderator or a host, and did some research on predefined topics beforehand. Toups and Cuba, I think you both came off really well; I'd definitely like to hear more of you two in the future."
Some of what you said I agreed with, some of it I didn't. But it's really your tone that annoys me, I think.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:23 am |
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| I wrote a review of soulblazer a few months ago on abdn... |
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Okay, we have our awesome sound man, we need a topic and volunteers. Do we feel Godhand to be still fertile soil for the masturbeardtion, or should we leave for other pastures?
I'm actually thinking that maybe we should do something along the lines of everyone has their own topic they bring to the discussion.
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Rud31
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Toups
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:00 am |
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| I wrote a review of soulblazer a few months ago on abdn... |
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whoa yeah
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Toups
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:02 am |
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got actraiser on tha braaaaaain
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Toups
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:03 am |
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Seriously dudes let me do a trial run this week and you will see.
Sets my groin on FIRE. |
rudie you sound like a grown man!
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adol
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:12 am |
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| i am downloading this podcast so i can see wut everyone sounds like |
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Rud31
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Seriously dudes let me do a trial run this week and you will see.
Sets my groin on FIRE. |
rudie you sound like a grown man! |
Are you saying my balls dropped since you last saw me?
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Toups
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:17 am |
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well
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:28 am |
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guys this podcast... no words
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Ronk
saucy Scott Pilgrim fanfic
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:38 am |
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so i guess unless you guys change it to speex, i can't be in the podcast.
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another coma
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: the wrong museum
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:19 am |
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I went ahead and edited this first one and added some music on the top and bottom. It's still bouncing out of ProTools now so I will upload something sometime tomorrow.
In the future I would like to add short interstitial music clips (5-15 seconds) between topics or break points in a similar way to how it wraps the top and bottom of this example cast (music relevant to the topics being discussed, of course!)
I compressed it really hard to put those with lower volume (P1, TMFK) on the same ground as those who were uh, you know, audible, or actually clipping (Toups!). So next time around it's not going to sound as squashed since, in theory you guys will have a better handle on the volume.
I only really cut out about 40 minutes of material (including technical difficulties, long pauses, people stepping on each other, a lot of ummm's, ahhhh's, repeated words, and almost all the talk about planning for future episodes), and that was the really conservative approach considering some of the tangents that got left in, but I thought I would leave a lot of the fun stuff in since this was a trial run anyway.
as you guys are well aware already, we are going to have to employ at least one of the techniques proposed towards the end of the podcast itself to cut down on the running time on future podcasts, because two and a half hours per and episode is an editing nightmare. basically, the shorter the runtime from the outset, the more care I can take in polishing what's there, and I don't have to worry about axing entire stretches to make it digestible, etc. you'll notice that the editing is really meticulous in the first 30 minutes and after Toups and TMFK come in (and the technical difficulties caused by that many people roll in with them) the editing kind of slid down a level to allow me to finish in a reasonable span of time. I would say that you guys should shoot for no more than 60 minutes per an episode of actual discussion - but again I think you guys are already on the same page here.
that aside, with just a little more effort and attention to detail I think this can actually be made into a good product that people would voluntarily listen to! so keep on with it. I've certainly known people to get really excited over some (pretty mundane) popular podcasts, whereas this was pretty fun to follow for the most part, even from the editor standpoint. the good material isn't anywhere as pedestrian as BBP is trying to imply - there actually is a good episode here, if obscured by length and technical difficulties.
I'll make another post tomorrow regarding some specific technical details that I wanted to mention for the benefit of future attempts, like uh, micing yourself
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drobe
My Brothers!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:26 am |
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Renfrew was cooler as manhunter
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