[Toptube]

[Judge Ito]

[Takashi]

That looks very much like out-of-the-box generic cell shading, meaning is basically Grasshopper's way to say "I don't give a shit".

Here's a original unshaded travis for comparison and good times. I'd say the models didn't got an upgrade at all.
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[Bennett]

So you can now play Captain Forever for free, and if you register it you can play the awesome sequel.

One of the coolest things about the game is that you can export your ship designs for other people to try, and post them as BBCode ascii art. There's a collection of them at http://vcd.phuce.com/. Of course, you can't win the game using someone else's design.

[Toptube]

[Takashi]

[SuperWes]

Don't you need your models to have a black outline around them to be considered cel shading or toon shading? You guys are right though, they're definitely using a shader.

-Wes
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[Takashi]

Isamu Kaneko of NekoFight and Winny fame wrote a pretty interesting demo called animebody that uses edge detection to do the outlines and some neat normal magic for the shading. It was wicked, albeit I haven't been able to run this for years. Actually, I'm going to recompile it now out of spite.
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[glossolalia]

oh yeah, some cel-shading is done with an edge detection shader too, my bad. i should probably shut up because i barely know what i'm talking about.

been pondering exactly how the cel shading in that ps3 misato katsuragi news reader was done, because it's the slickest i've seen yet - the outlines are always in exactly the right place and at the right widths, perfectly AAed, and it's not really a cel-shading thing per se but i appreciate that her mouth moves instantaneously. i'd like to see game cel-shading on this level of accuracy where all the animation was done like that instead of automatically interpolated (though i guess it would still end up looking artificial when the camera moved.)

[Rud31]

[another coma]

[glossolalia]

yeah, it'd be better if they eliminated interpolation in all the animation like i suggested or capped the frame rate something low. but it's a farther step than any other game cel-shading i know of. (fun somewhat related fact: for the 3D rendered environments in spirited away and howl's moving castle, they intentionally cut/paused on a couple frames each second so it would match better with the hand-drawn elements)

[chevluh]

[glossolalia]

there are definitely cel-shaders that use cubemaps to simulate the presence of a point light that doesn't move with the camera. but yeah that may very well be overkill in most situations. and i thought i read that's how it was done in wind waker, but that person may have just been guessing.

[chevluh]

I'm a bit amazed though, because diffuse light's really a one-dimensional thing. Using a cubemap for a single just means you have the exact same information across all longitudes, which is why you're better off with a 1D texture, ie just keeping one longitude. It's great when there's several cumulated lights though, but that's rarely taken into consideration in cel shading. I could see how it'd be handy if you have some really primitive shader capabilities, but even then I feel it's weird because all it's possibly sparing you is a few dot products and stuff like that, at the price of a cubemap, which should be more resource-consuming.

[Persona-sama]

[The Blueberry Hill]

[glossolalia]

well yeah it's a more controlled environment than most, with a higher polycount window since it's only focused on one character, but the outlines are still much much smoother and more convincing than that naruto game or the last prince of persia. not sure what you mean by "even if it was all being rendered in realtime." it is, i tried the demo on my ps3, you can move the camera around and everything.

[The Blueberry Hill]

I was referring to the shadows.

[chevluh]

If you can tolerate creepy japanese hostess club sims you can youtube Dream C club for some top of the line cartoon rendering.

[dementia]

more like Dream CP Club amirite

[kiken]

[Toptube]

worth a watch:

[shnozlak]

Penny arcade now has a "reality show".
Watch pumpkin and skinny guy talk at a camera http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/pa-the-series/101/
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[CubaLibre]

You know that was actually pretty good, but like, that's it right? A 20-minute documentary on Penny Arcade seems about exactly how much is warranted. The fact that there are going to be more episodes is puzzling.
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[negativedge]

[Toptube]

[Teflon]

[Gironika]

[Mikey]

http://www.destructoid.com/square-enix-set-to-work-on-the-cinematics-for-deus-ex-3-155984.phtml

Oh god

[luvcraft]

[Mikey]

I'm more upset about the prospect of Squeenix possibly working on Thief 4, not that I had too much hope for that game anyway.

[v84j3gs2uc7ns4]

[Mikey]

I didn't think Thief 3 was that terrible even if it was a misstep.

[negativedge]

[Rud31]

If you have a 360, you should buy This in the next hour.
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THERE ARE DEFINITELY WORSE VIDEO GAME PODCASTS

[negativedge]

why would I do that

[Rud31]

[Sniper Honeyviper]

Already have a good 360 stick, thanks.

[shnozlak]

This is not news, lets call it olds.

Pixel poppers is a good web page, and this is a good article from it:

"Awesome By Proxy: Addicted to Fake Achievement"
http://www.pixelpoppers.com/2009/11/awesome-by-proxy-addicted-to-fake.html
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