[Dracko]

I mean to catch up on Elephantmen. I really dug the Euro vibes I was getting from it.

Did you find a copy of The Incal with the new or original colouring?
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[protoblax]

7 year old girl responds to Starfire reboot
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[Renfrew]

Not sure. It is the one Humanoids put out like a month ago. The stuff in the first half looks like what I am used to with Moebius, but the second half is a lot more vibrant. I have never read any version before, so I have nothing to compare it to. When I read Jodowersky's comics, I can't help but think of Kirby and the New Gods.

I have only read the first volume, but Elephantmen is really good. Ladronn is of course incredible when he does anything for it, and I really like Moritat as well. The noirish stylings of the book is really fun.

EDIT: After a quick Wikipedia check, it would seem my version is the uncensored, original coloring version.
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[Loki Laufeyson]

preview art of sukeban turbo, to be published by ankama next year. i hope there'll be an english version!

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[MattCD42]

[Loki Laufeyson]

omg ross campbell's going to be drawing a monthly series

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[Renfrew]

Barnes & Noble are going to be replacing their DC Books with 2000AD.
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[MattCD42]

Is anyone else excited for Fiona Staples on SAGA?

It looks pretty sweet: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/07/23/brian-k-vaughn-and-fiona-staples-saga-from-image-comics/
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[Ebrey]

[costel]

Monocyte is rather spectacular, if not deeply befuddling. The writing should have taken a deep backseat, as they are trying to build far to grandiose of a world and it's substructures through mythological development and info dumps. Tsutomu Nihei is no doubt, a profound influence, writing aside.

Suicide Squad isn't so bad! It's not quite amazing, but I'm still reading. (Hint: Just for King Shark)

Stiched is good. If not essentially Garth Ennis's Crossed set in Afghanistan.
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[MattCD42]

OMFG who's read Afrodisiac, it might be the most amazing book I've read in... a damn long time.


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[special blend]

I'm just coming off of Morrison's New X-Men, and it seems like Astonishing X-Men is supposed to be the follow-up to that, am I right? So, should I check this out: http://www.amazon.com/Astonishing-X-Men-Omnibus-Joss-Whedon/dp/0785138013/ref=pd_sim_b_2

or should I just wait for the Schism/Uncanny/Wolverine and the X-Men trades?
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[spinach]

you should skip astonishing x-men
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

steal it or borrow it from a library.

[MattCD42]

[special blend]

I mostly just want to see why they went back to wearing costumes since in like the second issue of New X-Men, Professor X is like "COSTUMES ARE DUMM" and everyone else was like "YEAH THAT SHIT'S STUPID", and then Astonishing came out and they were wearing superhero costumes again.

ALSO note how the cover of the book I linked has everyone wearing their new Astonishing costume except Cyclops who's in the New X-Men get up for some bizarre reason/marketing tactic.




So are there any X-books that carry on with that New X-Men vibe? I read some reviews of the new Uncanny and Wolverine And The X-Men books that sound promising.
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[MattCD42]

Well the cover you linked to, i think is a pretty lame cover because the 'title' eats over half the space of the damn thing, which is just... not that great to in my eyes.

But I don't think any book keeps the 'new x-men' vibe. There were all the other x-books at the time that looked different and slowly reverted back to status quo. But every X-book, meaning every book held under the X-editorial office at that time, had an image adjustment, that was more to do with the first X-men movie coming out than anything else. But it went so far as to replace Deadpool with Agent X, and make pretty much everyone where 'tones' and not colors, no matter the X book.

Also during the time, and you can't tell now, but all of the X-tiles moved from having cover information in a corner on the front, to haveing a sidebar, that was supposed to give a unifed look to all of the X books of that time, so if you're looking though boxes of backissues they are easy to spot.

Also if you're just looking for more good X-related books, I highly reccomend looking up David's recent X-factor run. It's bloody brilliant, and about the only X-book that has conistianly been worth it's salt for years now, beyond the current X-Force run.

[MattCD42]

What books are people picking up in the 'floppies' anymore, or reading digitals thereof?

I'm reading everything Spider Office pretty much (ASM, Venom, Scarlet Spider, stopping Avenging Spider-Man soon, because I only picked that up for the sweet nectar that is Madurara, then I'm also counting Daredvil as Spider-office even though that's wrong.). X-Force as the only X book. Batman and woman, Captain Atom, a lot of the GL stuff sans GL proper. Buffy then the Angel and Faith comic.TMNT and the Cape from IDW. A lot of Image stuff that's between issues 1-4, Witch Doctor most noticeably. Also loving Atomic Robo and Chew. Also been reading Orchid because the woman has. I can't think of any others right now, but curious to hear what ya'll read.
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[Loki Laufeyson]

i currently buy journey into mystery, usagi yojimbo, godzilla: kingdom of monsters, and sonic universe. i'll be getting glory once it starts, too. i might also start getting morning glories again.

there used to be quite a few marvel and dc comics in my list, but they kept cancelling everything and now i don't care anymore.
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

I don't want/need an answer and it's my own fault for reading it but god, why has Dan Slott on Amazing Spiderman gotten so embarrassingly bad. I wasn't a big fan of the whole One More Day thing but some of the stuff after Brand New Day was really really good and Spider Island looked like it would be fun but ASM just constantly manages to underwhelm, annoy and irritate at every turn.

[MattCD42]

[special blend]

Does Ultimate Spider-Man ever start sucking? I'm at issue 40-something (the Geldoff arc) and the panelling isn't as good as those earlier issues but I still get a kick out of it. The fight scene that Peter has in his head with the X-Men made me laugh.

[MattCD42]

when they relaunched the book, it got... pretty darn bad. Also before that, after bagley dropped off art it wasn't as good. but immonen isn't bad either
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[special blend]

No one but Bagley could draw U S-M properly. When he's in U Team-Up or the Ultimates, they give him an adult physique and it just looks wrong.

I wonder if this new relaunch is any good. Morbidly curious about U X-Men and Ultimates.

[Dark Age Iron Savior]

Ultimate Spider-man doesn't really start sucking, but at times the pacing and plotting lurch around quite violently (or flat-line for several issues at a time).

the three new ones (and to a lesser extent the Ultimate Hawkeye short) are actually surprisingly good, although that's mainly in contrast to how bad some of them got in the past (especially Ultimate X-men). The new Ultimate Spider-man is actually really good, it's just slow (hi Bendis). It feels like a re-approach to the intention of the original USM comics, only more honest about a world existing outside of the main character's troubles and adventures. I'd say definitely give it a shot.

then again, I didn't think the relaunch of USM a few years back was all that bad. It wasn't great, and definitely lacked direction, but it was a breath of fresh air after how absolutely awful Jeph Loeb's attack on the imprint was. The same for the ridiculously, un-apologetically shallow and hyperactive Ultimates stuff Millar wrote during that period - it's not nearly the height of his work in the universe, but it's not as bad as you would assume at first glance.

The Ultimate Comics Doomsday event (Ultimate Enemy, Mystery and Doom) was...well, it wasn't exceptional and it was annoying to read and low on content, but it also wasn't afraid to mess around a bit with preconceptions and it will probably stand the test of time better than Ellis' Ultimate Galactus trilogy (which was fun, but like a lot of Ellis stuff, will only seem more embarrassing the farther we get from it).

Ultimate Fallout felt like a wash to me, though - I understand why it happened and how it ended up paced so poorly, but instead of putting a fresh face on the Ultimate imprint for (another) relaunch, it was more like watching a kid trying to clean a messy room by shoving everything under the bed or in the closet.

That said, Hickman's Ultimate relaunch is pretty crazy - as much as the new Ultimate Spiderman is going back towards something simpler and more conservative, Ultimates is stepping things up with big, world-altering events that let Hickman really flex his muscles (unlike the mainstream FF comics's he been writing, which have been crazy/fun/weird but have to pull back to the status quo every so often). I wish I could recommend it straight-up with no reservation, but unfortunately, it relies pretty heavily on plots established/fleshed out in Ultimate Fallout and the Ultimate Doomsday comics. Even if you don't want to check those out, though, you might feel some of the same sense of being abducted from the comfortable and dumped in the unpredictable that I experienced with it.

come to think of it, I need to read Ultimate Comics Thor...

It could all turn to crap in a few months, but right now, I'm pretty excited about the Ultimate universe. It has some of the same heady sense of anticipation with which each series originally launched, that we know the players but anything could happen without inevitably being wiped away by some event or series of retcons. It's been a long time since I felt that, and I'm crossing my fingers that Marvel will be able to keep it up.

[Winona Ghost Ryder]

I can't find any english links, but Moebius died ;_;

[Takashi]

Here's a nice Neil Gaiman blog post:

http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2012/03/remebering-moebius.html

I can't even begin to explain how this saddens me or how much of an influence he was to 8 year old me or why I still strive to write and draw comics.
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[MattCD42]

So did you know the Avengers invade sovereign nations? SCREW DEM Mutants, intergalactic bird entities are gonna screw things up.
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

well, to be fair, Utopia isn't a very good sovereign nation and it's like a few miles off the coast of California, so it's not a big deal (in the weird Marvel world). Also, despite the dumb narrow focus of the story so far, the Phoenix returning would be a planetary-level threat that groups like the UN (already not that happy with the X-men) would totally approve running roughshod over whatever claims Utopia has to international respect.

also I love how really badly the stories reintroducing/reintegrating the Scarlet Witch have been.

A much better case of ridiculous world craziness is the new Ultimates. It's pretty great. Millar tries to write some dumb "shit just got real" into every issue of his work these days but it effortlessly happens like three times in every issue of Hickman's run so far.

[special blend]

ultimate xorn :/
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[Ebrey]

I just finished reading Jonathan Hickman's Nick Fury comic Secret Warriors. Apparently it was shortened from the original 60 issue outline to just 28 issues. He finished the plot off perfectly fine (with the exception of the identity of one character that is apparently revealed in the SHIELD series), but it is a bit odd how fast the story moves. The titular Secret Warriors (a group of super heroes led by Nick Fury) are often ignored for issues at a time in favor of Nick Fury/Hydra drama. That's not really a problem with me - Nick Fury vs Hydra is the most interesting part of the series - but I think if the series was a bit longer it would've felt more complete.

Still, it's a really entertaining series. It gets into what makes Nick Fury vs Hydra so great: it's not a battle between superpowered buffoons, it's a battle between ruthless badasses. Hickman also gets props for bringing back John Garrett from Frank Miller's most underappreciated comic, Elektra: Assassin.

[MattCD42]

Why won't people read comics, they like the Avengers movie, and keep repeating the same lame jokes from it.
Why can't I convince these sheep to go and try reading a superior story?
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[CubaLibre]

Superheroes belong on screen.
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

got around to reading battle scars #6

agent coulson is one thing but that whole deal to set up a new black Nick Fury in 616 (where everything normally takes place) really weirded me out






unlike DC, Marvel makes no qualms about setting their stories in the "real world". Celebrities of various shapes and kinds are name-dropped or even have cameos whenever Marvel thinks they can get away with it (or they're doing some promotional kind of thing)
this raises the possibility that new Nick Fury deliberately styled his look after fictional Samuel L Jackson, who plays the role of Nick Fury in the real world movies, which he was cast for after he turned out to be fine with his look being used as the basis for Ultimate Nick Fury


that said, I will be totally cool with this if they follow-up the possibly unintentional subtext about Coulson, which is that he is in gay soldier love with Nick Fury

[special blend]

marvel NOW
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Marvel (puke) NOW
Marvel (drop all your books) NOW
Marvel (we're not above raping your whole family) NOW
Marvel (hates their fans) NOW
Marvel (making more money than legit storytellers) NOW
Marvel (fighting creators rights) NOW
Marvel (wait for it) NOW
Marvel (comics are magically 3.99) NOW
Marvel (love Bendis or eat our shit) NOW
Marvel (EVERYONE IS AN AVENGER) NOW
Marvel (if it can't be a movie we're canceling the book) NOW
Marvel (X-what?) NOW
Marvel (hates women) NOW
Marvel (still has Daniel Way employed) NOW
Marvel ( ... ) NOW
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[Ebrey]

My friend Ales Kot released an Image graphic novel, which is really cool, but unfortunately I don't like it. It's called Wild Children. If anyone else happens to read it though, I'm curious what you thought. To me, it felt like all the weird parts of a Grant Morrison comic, without all the story and buildup.

[MattCD42]

Ok well that description didn't really sell me on it, but I found the preview online, and that didn't sell me on it either, sorry to say.
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[special blend]

someone who knows comics should talk about how that one dude just died in AvX
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

Professor Xavier? We don't 100% know he's dead, I think, although apparently someone dies. Also he "died" in an X-men event a few years ago (at the end of Messiah Complex, Bishop shot him in the head - it was an accident - but he was revived with some missing memories and stuff). Also he's been pseudo-dead a few times before that. One of the first "it looked like this but it was really this" comic book deaths was in the very first years of X-men comics when he had a reformed shapeshifting villain take his place while he prepared against some alien threat, and of course that guy got himself killed.



also if Cyclops dies it also won't be the first time (also at the end of an X-men event). Emma isn't dead. I don't think anyone else is dead.

Nobody is confirmed as dead at this point I think.
*checks internet*
Okay I guess Prof X is. RIPurgatory, Chuck. Maybe he'll come back crippled again.

I should(n't) read more writer interviews so I can figure out who they think I should be rooting for. Hmm.