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Dracko
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:31 am        Reply with quote

I know the first volume got reprinted a couple of years back. Don't know besides that.

Does anyone know if the promised reprint of The Adventures of Luther Arkwright ever came out? I've been looking around online for info, but no dice.

Also, Kieron Gillen's next comic is going to be a one-shot for Marvel, entitled newuniversal: 1959 (a title he already laments because he won't be able to make Sisters of Mercy jokes from it, no doubt). I don't much like the guy, but Phonogram, apart from having the holistic approach to magick I get a stiffy from was damn well written, the bastard, so I'll be giving it a peak even though I've totally lost interest in Ellis' revival of the franchise.

Did I mention how awesome the first issue of Jonathan Hickman's new mini-series, Transhuman, is? It's perhaps his most traditional comic so far, but it's still dense with information as one would expect from t e guy. It's also fucking hilarious. The set-up? It's a mockumentary about the birth pangs of marketable transhumanism, and the massive corporate war ensuing from it, as it is being beamed into our homes.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:32 am        Reply with quote

A friend of mine is publishing the back catalog of Danijel Zezelj in English starting with Rex under the label Optimum Wound Comics in May. Some samples are available here. Not sure if it appeals to anyone here, but I thought I'd help put the word out.
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Dracko
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:57 am        Reply with quote

I heard about that. I fucking love what I've seen of Zezelj, mostly via Desolation Jones and Loveless.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:56 am        Reply with quote

It's done pretty well in presales so far, so it looks like my buddy is going to be able to publish more of Zezelj's other early stuff and use it to leverage publishing of some other artists in the niche.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:43 am        Reply with quote

MY CITY SCREAMS!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:50 am        Reply with quote

wouldn't want to be buried next to will eisner right now
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Dracko
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:52 am        Reply with quote

I love you, Miller!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:15 pm        Reply with quote

Why did they have to take the best cinematic technique of the past half-century and jump the shark with it in three movies?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:30 am        Reply with quote

I really can't think of anything I would actually want Frank Miller to work on these days.

http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/

Apparently a month old, but, Watchmen costumes.

I'm not sure whether Owl Man is completely missing the point or an inspired interpretation.

I wonder if he'll be naked.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:59 am        Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:06 pm        Reply with quote

Just because I'm looking forward to it and because I think that it's the most likely candidate for best superhero film of this Summer (Hancock doesn't count, guys!), here's some backstory to upcoming Hellboy II: The Golden Army. Even though both Mignola and del Toro sound confident about the artwork, I don't find it representative at all of the genius and defining talents that have been at work on the series and its spin-offs and it's also hard to justify it as a good example of the writing typically seen, what with its urgency to set up the character and plot points which will no doubt be explored further in the film. But this may still be of interest to a few, or convince others.














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shrugtheironteacup
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:07 pm        Reply with quote

I have trouble when Hellboy is drawn by anyone but Mignola. It's pretty ridiculous.
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dark steve
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:58 pm        Reply with quote

Word. Every time I see "written by mike mignola, art by some jackass," I mentally throw up my hands. What's the point, even, if someone else is drawing it? The art is pretty much the whole of the thing.
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Dracko
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:53 pm        Reply with quote

You total bastards! Richard Corben and Duncan Fegredo are stunning artists!
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haze
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:42 am        Reply with quote

bought and read Mat Johnson's graphic novel, Incognegro, today. it was pretty great!

http://www.amazon.com/Incognegro-Mat-Johnson/dp/140121097X

(no relation at all to the Ludacris record)
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:59 am        Reply with quote

God, that thing was totally a poor attempt at hoping to turn into a big blockbuster film. Too bad it does sweet fuck all with the themes it touches on.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:25 pm        Reply with quote

Just finished cerebus book 4.

Cerebus book 1:
An aardvark fucks around in a fantasy setting. Dave Sim learns how to draw.

Cerebus book 2:
An aarvark accustomed to fucking around must now be fucked by others.

Somehow, all the silly things that happened in the last book MEANT something, even though it seems like Dave Sim looked at the first book's story-mess and said "This shit will be cleaned up and arranged into something respectable and I DON'T CARE how many square pegs go into round holes, they will go in and it will work." They go in, it works, Dave Sim has learned how to draw.

Cerebus book 3
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An aardvark makes a triumphant return to fucking others, and decides he will fuck the entire world.

Man, can Dave Sim draw. Also, hey, nice how the story's pretty good now.

Cerebus book 4:
An aardvark meets a flaming carrot in space on the way to talk to Orson Welles on the moon.

Dave Sim likes doing weird things to the way panels work, sometimes. It feels more like he's doing it just for the sake of experimenting, but I don't mind very much because I would probably do the same thing if I got to draw my own comic and get money for it. Twice now I've had to rotate my book in a circle, and I'm pretty disoriented from time to time, but every now and then someone is entitled to tell us to put the controller on the floor so we can watch it vibrate.

I wish very much that Dave Sim would have killed off his token satirical superhero character. He isn't funny, except for a brief time when he has Frank Miller-style inner monologues about tightening his stomach muscles to keep the intestines in, and I mostly skip his dialogue and pretend that he mumbles.

I'd like to see this this as a TV series with an unprecedented animation budget and Phillip Glass doing the music.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:40 pm        Reply with quote

Dave Sim never learned how to draw women. You can tell he hates women because even the 'beautiful' women in his comics have weird melty faces. Actually, he pretty much never grasped head construction, which is weird because his anatomy drawing is mostly superb.

Man I really tried with Cerebus but I didn't find much to hook me in. I like his dramatic use of architecture in shot compostions. THAT'S IT.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:19 pm        Reply with quote

Harveyjames wrote:
I like his dramatic use of architecture in shot compostions. THAT'S IT.
Sup, Ger
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haze
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:44 pm        Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
God, that thing was totally a poor attempt at hoping to turn into a big blockbuster film. Too bad it does sweet fuck all with the themes it touches on.


hmm, I think you might be right. does feel kind of shallow after re-reading it.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:48 pm        Reply with quote

I think the writer even admitted as such. Like 30 Days of Night.

P.S. Pax Romana #3 is delayed until the end of this month. :(
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Ebrey



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:35 am        Reply with quote

Everyone should pick up the four Jack Kirby's Fourth World omnibuses. Jack Kirby probably makes you think of the most mainstream superheroes, like Fantastic Four and Captain America, but these are insane masterpieces. A collection of four series featuring a race of Gods from rival planets, three of them are original creations and one of them is Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen. Surprisingly, Jimmy Olsen is the strangest of the Fourth World comics. Kirby took a throwaway spin off and made it into Pop Art Superman.

Then came Forever People, about a team of hippy superheroes.

Then The New Gods, the most popular and conventional of the batch. A fun, Star Wars-ish comic, but not as weird as the rest.

And finally Mister Miracle, a super hero comic about an escape artist. This has the most solid storytelling of them all.

The only "weak" aspect of these comics is their dialog. It's true that Kirby had never written without an editor before, and that he's laughably bad at capturing the youth speak of 70s youngsters. But so what? The bizarre dialog makes these comics even more deliciously surreal. Where else will you hear Superman say "The symbol on my chest stands for peace. Something you should dig - but fast!"?[/i]
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Dark Age Iron Savior
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:23 am        Reply with quote

Jack Kirby fans need to read Godland.

No, not this one (what?)

This one!

go steal or borrow (or possibly even buy) the Celestial Edition. It is a very nice chunk of usefully irrelevant comic.


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:47 pm        Reply with quote

I just read Flex Mentallo.
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Dracko
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:30 am        Reply with quote

ya it's pretty awesome
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:00 am        Reply with quote

yeah I thought about it all day after

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Only a bitter little adolescent boy could confuse realism with pessimism.

That line struck me as an undiluted message to the industry at large from the talented writers and artists who, in truly exploring the genre, accidentally kicked off the Dark Age of superhero comics. It was a fist pumping moment.

I like that I was led on thinking SHAZAM the whole time.

The rest made me scratch my head the same way most of the other Morrison stuff I've read does, and that's why I keep coming back for more.

Also found (finally!) The Filth, complete.
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Dracko
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:10 pm        Reply with quote

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Being clever’s a fine thing, but sometimes a boy just needs to get out of the house and meet some girls.


Yeah, that quote is mint. You should check out All-Star Superman too. The latest issue pretty much epitomises the entire point of the series and it may as well have been Grant Morrison who invented the character considering how amazing it is.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:36 am        Reply with quote

I'll check it out.

I like what I've seen of the All-Star series so far, but missed out on a whole bunch.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:19 pm        Reply with quote

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Man I really tried with Cerebus but I didn't find much to hook me in. I like his dramatic use of architecture in shot compostions. THAT'S IT.



yeah thats gerhard, not dave sim

like i think it was reads that gerhard dedicated to somebody and then hoped to never draw the damn throne room again

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Dave Sim never learned how to draw women. You can tell he hates women because even the 'beautiful' women in his comics have weird melty faces. Actually, he pretty much never grasped head construction, which is weird because his anatomy drawing is mostly superb.


dave sims new comic is about drawing pretty girls with a photorealism style
have you seen the girls they dont look like he hates them anymore
except kinda
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:02 am        Reply with quote

Gerhard dedicated Reads to women!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:29 am        Reply with quote

http://ryanpeq.livejournal.com/101065.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:56 pm        Reply with quote

I just saw the trailer for Wanted. I didn't connect it to the comic book until a few commercials later. This is going to be the worst comic book movie.
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Dracko
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:27 am        Reply with quote

Considering how dire the comic was in the first place, this was a foregone conclusion.

Kind of like 30 Days of Night (written purposefully to be made as a movie FYI).
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:08 am        Reply with quote

Dracko have you bought this yet? You mentioned wanting to buy Morrison's run on Dan Dare a while ago.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:19 pm        Reply with quote

Read it. Wasn't impressed.

This week sees the first issue of A Red Mass for Mars and the first part of Old Man Logan, guys! And the X-Force one-shot with Jason Aaron!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:20 pm        Reply with quote

For all those perplexed by DC's continuity-raping Summer event, Final Crisis.

A Red Mass for Mars #1 was good stuff, but so far, my least favourite of Hickman's works. It may be the superhero gimmicks (Though the Lightbender segment with is English Language Reclamation Project is hilarious). The artwork is as stunning as expected, however. I'll still be following it, of course.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:48 pm        Reply with quote

is comic book holocaust any good? i was reading about it and it seemed like it would either be really funny or really lol offensive lol not funny
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:39 pm        Reply with quote

Daphaknee wrote:
Harveyjames wrote:

Man I really tried with Cerebus but I didn't find much to hook me in. I like his dramatic use of architecture in shot compostions. THAT'S IT.



yeah thats gerhard, not dave sim


Sim laid out the panels, though! It's still Sim who's responsible for the use of architecture in Cerebus. I agree that the book really benefits from having two people responsible for backgrounds, though. Anyway, this here is a perfect example of what I'm talking about, and I believe it's from before Gerhard came on board.




Daphaknee wrote:
Harveyjames wrote:
Dave Sim never learned how to draw women. You can tell he hates women because even the 'beautiful' women in his comics have weird melty faces. Actually, he pretty much never grasped head construction at all, which is weird because his anatomy drawing is mostly superb.


dave sims new comic is about drawing pretty girls with a photorealism style
have you seen the girls they dont look like he hates them anymore
except kinda


I've seen them! Check out this video! He traces them obsessively from magazines, the crazy fuck


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:13 pm        Reply with quote

That may be one of the most tortuous drawing systems possible. Good for him if it nets the product he wants, but I can't imagine myself having such patience.

Jason, the Norwegian cartoonist, recently had a new book come out featuring his older non-animal work. The main story is great. If you haven't checked Jason out, try and get your hands on any of his books (particularly Hey, Wait and The Left Bank Gang).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:00 pm        Reply with quote

Wow, I did not know he had such a creepy voice.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:37 am        Reply with quote

Ebrey wrote:
Wow, I did not know he had such a creepy voice.


It's not so much the voice as the stuff he's saying. If you watch that dumb-ass Youtube clip he made just after finishing Cerebus he sounds like an ordinary guy.
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