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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:38 am |
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It's My Chemical Romance covering Bob Dylan, for fuck's sake. _________________
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rabite gets whacked!

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:13 am |
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It's a perfect fit, really. My Chemical Romance and Zach Snyder are both Alternative Press poster children attempting covers of the classics and falling way outside their fucking depths. They deserve each other.
Just a thought- now that Superhero movies are all the (financial) rage, will we ever get original IPs, or will they just dredge up comic book dudes till the end of time? _________________
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:35 am |
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| Dracko wrote: |
| It's My Chemical Romance covering Bob Dylan, for fuck's sake. |
Did you ever see I Am Sam, whose whole soundtrack was composed of Beatles covers by buttery, soft-throated, pre-emo hacks? This sort of pales in comparison.
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| Just a thought- now that Superhero movies are all the (financial) rage, will we ever get original IPs, or will they just dredge up comic book dudes till the end of time? |
Don't fucking count on it. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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Marshmallow just call him badass
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:38 am |
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| Well, there was Hancock recently. |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:39 am |
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way to go Cycle making me look like an asshole
It was pretty good, too. Hancock I mean.
Does Unbreakable count? Probably not. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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Ebrey
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:10 am |
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| Dracko wrote: |
| It's My Chemical Romance covering Bob Dylan, for fuck's sake. |
Is the MCR dude's comic Umbrella Academy any good? |
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rabite gets whacked!

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:52 pm |
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It was pretty good, too. Hancock I mean.
Does Unbreakable count? Probably not. |
I was thinking of those two. I though Unbreakable was pretty insecure in its relationship to comics, overstating the connection, and from what I've seen and heard of Hancock it does a similar thing. Neither is a straight up Superhero movie. _________________
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:36 pm |
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Hancock is far more typical: the "origin" first act (though it's not the literal origin of his powers, which are the mysterious hook of the movie); the self-aware, get the costume, be a hero second act; the undercutting, villain learns the hero's weakness and exploits it but the hero overcomes anyway third act. The only difference is the overlay of the mystery of Hancock's powers. And it ends on pretty much the brightest note imaginable. I think it's quite a typical superhero movie. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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brillo

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Washington (the wet one)
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:56 pm |
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| Ebrey wrote: |
| Is the MCR dude's comic Umbrella Academy any good? |
I've flipped through a few issues that I picked up in cheap grab-bags (ten comics each, $2, priceless 80's-90's advertisements). And it's, uhh... the kind of comic that would appeal to MCR fans? A moment here and there but mostly ninja-monkey-penis ZOMG "randomness". |
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:46 pm |
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The Umbrella Academy is okay. It shines a bit more than most superhero comics these days, but it still isn't much. Worth a browse, I'd say, but I'd just re-read Casanova if I were you.
You people have heard that Neil Gaiman is going to be writing Batman, yeah? In a story entitled Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?. Beyond that, not much else is known: Whether it's part of the ongoing series or a mini-series or what. In Dark Knight-related news: Jerry fucking Robinson, the original creator of the character, is working on a Joker-centred project, and Azzarello has a Joker graphic novel in the works.
David Mack is adapting Philip K. Dick's The Electric Ant for Marvel next year too. Art by Pascal Alixe with covers by Paul Pope! _________________
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Dark Age Iron Savior king of finders

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:16 am |
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I don't know what this falls under, but for some reason, reading Sandman while you're tired makes it feel kind of boring. _________________
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Toto

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:15 am |
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| Azzarello has a Joker graphic novel in the works. |
Cool. Interesting to see what he'd do with the character. I want so many panels of complete black with only the jokers smiling teeth visible (you know, every 2nd panel of 100 Bullets) that I exploded. |
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Leau

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:38 pm |
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| Dracko wrote: |
| The Umbrella Academy is okay. It shines a bit more than most superhero comics these days, but it still isn't much. Worth a browse, I'd say, but I'd just re-read Casanova if I were you. |
The Umbrella Academy was much better than I was expecting at the very least, coming from the My Chemical Romance guy. Apparently he interned at some comic publisher for quite some time? And it's not goth or mopey or emo at all! Not a classic perhaps, but worth a read in my opinion.
Also worth a (re)read is Casanova. In fact I think I'll take Dracko's advice and do so. _________________
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:21 pm |
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I've ordered the complete Jerry Cornelius novels on the strength of Casanova, and finally managed to find The Adventures of Luther Arkwright. I recall Morrison getting into so much shit with Moorcock because the latter felt he ripped him off when it came to the Gideon Stargrave character. _________________
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dark steve secretary of good times

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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:06 am |
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"Ripoff" isn't quite right. Gideon Stargrave IS Jerry Cornelius.
I mean, nobody complains that Mason is Bruce Wayne. |
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:30 am |
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Moorcock still took offence, is the point. But I wouldn't want it any other way.
I'm re-reading The Invisibles at the moment and it's strange to me that the weirder it gets, the more... consistent I suppose is the term. The melting pot of all these completely differing ideas actually builds into a world one can contemplate, rather than view through the lens of pure surreal flights of fancy. It could just be me, though. _________________
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Ebrey
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:17 am |
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I'm enjoying the hell out of the American Flagg hardcover that just came out. Even if you don't like Howard Chaykin's recent comics, you should check it out: his best work was in the 80s. It's a dense, innovative sci-fi story about a porn actor who is replaced by a hologram on his hit show. He becomes a cop and uncovers conspiracy after conspiracy in 2031 - 35 years after the US government said 'fuck it' and moved to Mars.
Chaykin mentored Frank Miller, and Flagg's media saturated future was a big influence on Dark Knight Returns.
Note: There's a weird short story that doesn't feature the main characters before the first issue in this hardcover. Anyone know if this is a framing story from the original TPBs? It's confusing because you never see these characters again. |
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sawtooth heh

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:45 pm |
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Larry even described a scene from the film the made the brothers laugh at the time. “The funny scene we thought of that was kind of the start of it all was like he goes to the bathroom after he becomes Plastic Man and his urine is no longer bio-degradable so he like wants to kill himself,” he chuckled. _________________ ( ( |
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sawtooth heh

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:45 pm |
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LOL! _________________ ( ( |
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:20 pm |
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End of an era...
P.S. I now own both Bryan Talbot's The Adventures of Luther Arkwright and Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell's A Disease of Language. Will comment at a later date. _________________
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Harveyjames

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:45 am |
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Dracko I keep refreshing the page to see the different subversive messages in your sig, and it is BLOWING MY MIND
I've just been reading some of the companion books to Bone, Stupid Stupid Rat Tales and Rose. So, here are my reviews!
Stupid Stupid Rat Tales.
I can see what they were trying to do, here; It's a little like Terry Gilliam's Baron Von Munchhausen; a teller of tall tales gets embroiled in what will surely become another of his tall tales, and by story's end the reader sees him and all his other tall tales in a new light. It's a good concept, and it comes close to pulling it off; the situations the main character finds himself in are pretty wild, and how he gets out of them is usually even wilder!!!1
Sadly for the most part the writing, by the guy who did the Riblet comics, is not so hot. There's a talking monkey who keeps making stupid remarks for one thing. For another, it does that 'ensemble cast of cute orphan woodland creatures' routine again. Once was enough, guys, JEEZ. Jeff Smith's art is great, but that's to be expected at this stage. 2/5
Rose
I never really liked to think about it, but Bone probably did itself a disservice when it decided to go all high fantasy on our asses. I think that's why people love the first couple of books the best. I would have been happy if the series remained in a state of stasis after the Great Cow Race! We didn't need all this Royal Family of Harvestar rhubarb, really. That's why the Rock Jaw episode was such a breath of fresh air- because prior to that the series had become really bogged down in high fantasy.
Rose is a whole book of the boring high fantasy crap Bone could have done without. There's a really nice sequence at the beginning where Charles Vess illustrates the story of Mim, the great dragon who encircled the world- the Bone creation myth. After that, though, you get a bunch of people riding around on horseback and saying 'my liege'. It reads like King's Quest fan fiction. I haven't read the whole thing yet, though! Maybe it's a story that's worth telling! We'll see! tentative score: 1/5
UPDATE: Yeah, Rose is pretty good. I should know better than to prejudge these things. It's still kind of silly, though! I don't know that I could totally recommend it. Charles Vess' artwork is beautiful, although I can't understand why he's so bad at drawing human faces since he's a virtuoso at pretty much every other aspect of the art of illustration like landscapes, bodies, drapery, and especially colour. Actual score: a grudging 3/5 _________________
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Dark Age Iron Savior king of finders

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:00 am |
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I picked up a small Grendel collection at the library, with the first Grendel story and the first three issues of the first series.
I thought it was some epic about some master crimelord who also played dress-up.
But it has werewolves?
Weird. _________________
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Ebrey
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:36 am |
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They just announced the Preacher HBO show died after the pilot was produced. The writer (who also did Daredevil and Ghost Rider...) says it was because it “was just too dark and too violent and too controversial.”
I suspect the pilot simply sucked, and he's trying to save face. HBO is knows that dark, violent, and controversial is a surefire way to make money. |
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:52 pm |
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This is interesting; Benoît Sokal - comics writer also behind the Syberia adventure game series - is seemingly working on a graphic adventure adaptation of Enki Bilal's The Carnival of Immortals, first part of the Nikopol trilogy.
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Ebrey
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:29 am |
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I read the first 20 Berserk manga volumes, wondering if the Black Swordsman chapters would ever become interesting. They didn't: the Golden Age is the only Berserk story arc I've liked so far.
Osamu Tezuka's Dororo is Black Swordsman era Berserk, but good. It's an extremely dark samurai story about a warrior whose body parts are all prosthetics, and a kid thief who is always getting into trouble. Dororo is one of Tezuka's darkest comics, but it's also his most action packed. It all makes for one delightfully entertaining mix of fighting, humor, and tragedy - you can't help but smile when Hyakkimaru throws off his fake arms to reveal the swords attached to his stumps. Or when an evil sword tells Dororo to kill, and he wonders if it is the reader talking to him. |
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Leau

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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:36 am |
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I get the sense from reading this thread that most of you wouldn't be caught dead reading anything at all mainstream. But I highly recommend you check out Magneto: Testament which is out this week. Now I know what you're thinking; floating asteroids, and exploding Sentinels, and "I'm the Juggernaut bitch" and things of that nature. But it's about Magneto's origin growing up as a Jew in Germany in the late 40s. And while this is a little cliche in its own way, it's still incredibly poignant in a way that doesn't paint the Nazis as an invading empire, but rather a mindset. And it's all seen from the eyes of a school-boy, who doesn't have any idea about the politics at work, but simply the things that are happening and souring around him at street level. And I also know that a lot of non-jews (myself included) have become a little weary of seeing Nazis depicted in film and literature, but as Pak says in his surprisingly heartfelt afterward, it's still an import kind of story to tell, if only because there are still fools in this world who..don't believe the holocaust happened. And to put every bit of history aside, the writing is quite moving in its own right.
I have to say this isn't at all what I was expecting when I looked at the cover and picked this book up. We'll see where the mini-series goes as a whole, but as a first issue, I was rather well blown away. _________________
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:54 am |
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Yeah, it's okay. _________________
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spinach hardline radical martian

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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:04 am |
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dracko, i'm reading invisibles now as per your suggestion and thank you, it is great. four issues to go.
also, i've filled out my anita bomba collection, all that's left is the fifth volume which has not been translated from french. |
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Leau

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:23 pm |
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| Dracko wrote: |
| Yeah, it's okay. |
Errrr...well that's rather dismissive. _________________
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:29 pm |
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It's not like it's particularly unique or anything. It's a good read, and more comics should be like it, but then again, there's a whole lot more out there that does a whole lot more. _________________
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Leau

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:33 am |
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True. I was just so blown away to see something so honest to come out of the x-men franchise. _________________
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:04 pm |
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Oh, I'm sure there's a number of things coming out of the X-Men franchise that are worthwhile.
I think I'd sooner credit this to the Marvel Knights label, though. _________________
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Leau

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:10 am |
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| Dracko wrote: |
| Oh, I'm sure there's a number of things coming out of the X-Men franchise that are worthwhile. |
You'd think so. But there isn't.
Old Man Logan is interesting... but I wouldn't call it good.
X-factor isn't bad exactly (Peter David is never bad bad) but it hasn't been up to par in the past year or so. And for some reason Marvel refuses to give this title a regular artist which only serves to fragment it further.
Cable is OK. Decent premise, but they haven't done anything interesting with it yet. It's basically been one big chase scene for 7 issues.
X-men Legends is too tethered to old continuity to be very readable.
Astonishing has Grant Morrison writing now. It's... different. It's basically been X-men CSI thus far. And like all Morrison it involves futuristic body enhancement in some way. You kind of know whether Grant Morrison is to your tastes anyway.Simone Bianchi's art is technically very good, but his reliance on unconventional panel layouts does him no favors.
Ultimate X-men commissioned one of the writers from Heroes for the last arc. I'm sure Marvel was excited to have a writer with credits outside of comics, but his arc was truly awful. All about mutant drugs and Angel turning into a huge talking eagle...ugh.
The recent issue 500 relaunch of uncanny was fairly underwhelming. Terrible photo-reference art from Greg Land, bondage queens, and entire issues of the x-men talking about how awesome San Francisco is. It's incessant.
Wolverine Origins and X-factor should be stupid fun, but they both take themselves way too seriously in magnitudes that range from simply poor to mid 90s terrible.
So yeah... you can see why Testament threw me for a loop! _________________
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Ebrey
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:00 pm |
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| Leau wrote: |
| Astonishing has Grant Morrison writing now. It's... different. It's basically been X-men CSI thus far. And like all Morrison it involves futuristic body enhancement in some way. You kind of know whether Grant Morrison is to your tastes anyway.Simone Bianchi's art is technically very good, but his reliance on unconventional panel layouts does him no favors. |
Grant Morrison did the best X-Men run ever, New X-Men. Astonishing is written by Warren Ellis, which isn't nearly as exciting. Still, he has to be an improvement over Joss Whedon, right?
Whedon's first arc was competent but unambitious, and his next 3 weren't even that.
Mike Carey and Ed Brubaker are good writers - are any of their X-books worth picking up? |
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:30 pm |
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The best part about Ellis writing Astonishing is all the inevitable one-shots that will come out as he delays the fuck out of it.
Oh yeah, and the extreme body mod porn. Jesus.
Leau, you missed out X-Force, which is fucking awesome even if it's continuity porn.
As to Mike Carey: I liked Messiah CompleX, myself. I'm not certain a lot of people share that, though. _________________
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haze la belle poney sans merci
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:03 pm |
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| I'm reading Fables it's pretty good |
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Leau

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:54 pm |
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| Ebrey wrote: |
| Grant Morrison did the best X-Men run ever, New X-Men. Astonishing is written by Warren Ellis... |
You're absolutely right. I meant to say Ellis, but my brain kept spitting out Morrison. Heaven knows how I got those two mixed up in my mind.
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| Leau, you missed out X-Force, which is fucking awesome even if it's continuity porn. |
I want to like X-Force. I really do. It should be one of those guilty pleasure type books. There are legions of combat angels. The entire team uses nothing to fight with except knives of various sorts. And since it looks like Archangel will be joining the cast, they'll now have someone who throws knives as well (which means of course that they'll be unstoppable). And I'll admit that it takes a certain amount of roguish huevos to dust off such terrible villains as Bastion and the Leper Queen with a serious intent on using them. But the book takes itself way too seriously for what it is, and Clayton Crain just drenches every page in murk. I think the next arc will improve though.
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| As to Mike Carey: I liked Messiah CompleX, myself. I'm not certain a lot of people share that, though. |
I liked Messiah Complex too actually. It had more than one cool plot twist, and purported to give the line some direction after no one did anything at all with the post M-day, "no more mutants" set up for the past 3ish years. The Young X-men come off as being young assholes though, basically screwing up everyone's plan. _________________
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Lord Horror is the creation of David Britton and Michael Butterworth, founders of Savoy Books in England. Savoy has a long and colourful history that began with independent ventures — bookshops, writings, underground zines — by Britton and Butterworth in the late 1960s. In 1976 they joined forces to launch Savoy and nearly became William S. Burroughs' UK publisher in 1979. The ink barely dry on a contract for Cities of the Red Night, Savoy's bookshops and offices were raided for the nth time by Manchester police, perpetuating what would become two and a half decades of harassment and witch-hunting by a constabulary with clearly repressive ambitions. Savoy was forced into bankruptcy and Britton obliged to serve a term in prison for selling publications deemed "obscene" (but which were openly sold elsewhere in the country).
Lord Horror is based on a historical personage: Lord Haw-Haw, aka William Joyce, British fascist and radio announcer. Warping him from Haw-Haw to Horror, the novel views the rabble-rouser DJ through a glass darkly. It turns out to be a double negative — after Auschwitz, can you view a fascist any more darkly? — that catapults the narrative in the other direction, into exuberance, extravagance, and excess. (In the novel, Hitler's penis suffers from a gigantism that seems to epitomize the over-the-topness of the book itself.) Lord Horror takes the repository of symbols bequeathed by World War II and pours it into a cauldron boiling over with pop culture. Bigots and death camps get cooked up with rock and roll, comic strips, esoterica. It's a "what if the other side had won the war" trip like you've never seen before.
Though they were blind to its literary qualities, the Manchester police could not ignore the novelty and daring of the book. Once again they raided Savoy, confiscating more than half of the book's already small print run. A court declared the book obscene, less for its sex or violence than for anti-semitic ravings put into the mouths of anti-semitic characters, and sent Britton to Strangeways Prison for four months. Though this made Lord Horror the first literary work to be suppressed in England since Hubert Selby's Last Exit to Brooklyn, advocates of free speech paid little heed to the plight of Lord Horror's creator. If this had happened ten years later, Britton would have become a cause célèbre fuelled by online petitions and blogger outrage. But in 1991 there was not much of an internet, and liberals had already blown their wad on Salman Rushdie. The Satanic Verses had been easy to stump for. It pit the good enlightened West against the bad repressive East. Lord Horror, with its exaggerated depiction of British collusion, occupied a more disturbing terrain. It wasn't us versus them. It was us versus ourselves.
In 1993 the American Jewish Year Book, which chronicles anti-semitic events around the world, noted that in Britain "racist literature continued to cause concern." Discriminatory publications included The Holohoax by "Simon Weaselstool," an Examination of Anti-Gentilism, and an edition of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. In addition "Lord Horror by David Brent [sic], published by Savoy Books and based on the life of British World War II traitor William Joyce ('Lord Haw-Haw'), was banned under the Obscene Publications Act, though no reason was given." No reason was given because the book was railroaded, banned not by a jury but by a judge — pause on that: there was no recourse to "community standards," just the subjective assessment of one man who was unable to see the difference between being and satirizing hate speech. (This was particularly ironic since anti-gay rhetoric by the Chief Constable of Manchester had been transposed into the book, replacing gay with Jew — in other words, transforming real hate speech into satire.)
Other books, such as Phillip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle (1962) and Norman Spinrad's The Iron Dream (1972), had utilized the "what if Hitler had won?" premise without causing much controversy. Postwar pulps regularly eroticized the Holocaust, using Nazis and Jewesses — never did the starving inhabitants of death camps look more buxom than on the lurid covers of pulp fiction — as stand-ins for sadists and masochists. These failed to ruffle feathers partly because the "politically correct" mindset dominant at the time of Lord Horror's publication had yet to prevail, and partly because the works themselves were clear about their moral positions. Spinrad appended a fake scholarly analysis to his tome to ensure that his intentions would not be misunderstood. And no one considered the pulps anti-semitic because it was obvious what their game was: to beat the censors, S&M bodice rippers posed as historical novels about the war.
Savoy has occupied a more ambiguous terrain. Unlike Dick or Spinrad, sci-fi writers who confined Nazis to a book or two, Britton and Butterworth have pursued their theme with a probably disturbing intensity that can be quantitatively measured in the sheer volume of Lord Horror productions. What's more, they do not tack a moral to the end of their tales. This is not to say that there are no morals but rather that there are no easy answers, seals of approval, rubber stamps, calmatives ("don't worry, it's just fiction, the jackboots won't hurt you"). Their work is not ideological, like a hate tract, but is rather a deliberate collision of seemingly incompatible ideologies: death camp + dream factory = ? Satire, hyperbole, and reductio ad absurdum work to energize, anger, inspire, offend, but the one thing they do not do to readers is pacify. And why should anyone be pacified by Nazis, even fictional ones?
Potentially the most anti-semitic passage in Lord Horror depicts the protagonist literally ingesting a Jew. The description, which carries on for several pages, also happens to be the most brilliant and farcical moment in the book. After swallowing half the Jew — whole — Lord Horror
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| heaved himself onto his feet. He propped himself unsteadily against the wall, wreathed in steam, with the two bent legs of the Jew brazenly dangling from his mouth. He raised his hands to the pain in his head, clasped it, stared up at the big moon. When the white orb tossed down light, the loose legs swung and crossed one over the other as though the old Jew inside had seated himself casually in a roomy armchair. [LH 160] |
Anti-semitism? Or Surrealism? The appeal here is not to haters of Jews but to lovers of art. It is a Max Ernst image with echoes ranging from Goya (Saturn Devouring His Children) to Dali (Autumn Cannibalism). The burlesque is completed by Lord Horror's revelation that "his body could literally accommodate thousands of Jews. He had struck on the perfect Final Solution — he could eat and digest the Jews of the world!" [LH 161] Jonathan Swift had argued in A Modest Proposal that the solution to famine was to eat the children of the poor. Here the solution to ethnic "degeneracy" is to eat the degenerate. Plainly this is the type of epiphany that occurs not when you want to resurrect Nazism but when you transplant Auschwitz to Oz.
As if its anti-anti-semitism weren't obvious enough, the novel continually undermines its own protagonist's hatreds: "Lord Horror's avowed anti-semitism was a cartoon, a burlesque, a technicolour replica of Hitler's own Jewish stance... Horror was just a brushstroke in a tapestry without substance, his actions far too Grand Guignol theatrical to be truly convincing." [LH 37] Impressed by Mengele's (imagined) experiments "grafting white limbs onto black bodies," Lord Horror tries "duplicating Mengele's achievements... by tacking gentile anatomical characteristics onto Jews." [LH 90] Such copycat behavior is expressly condemned by the book itself: "Hitler had lain in the wound in the heart of mankind, not just in the wounds in the hearts of the Jews. He had become a token reminder to the world that the seeds of its immolation lay in blindly inherited behavior." [LH 188]
It is difficult to fathom how this, particularly when compared to genuine hate speech, could be mistaken for anti-semitism. Still, let's presume the worst. Acknowledge that Savoy must have some sense that hate is the new outré. It used to be that you couldn't say fuck without causing matrons to overturn their teacups. Nowadays it's nigger, kike, paki. (Interestingly, though, the word kike does not appear in Motherfuckers, currently the only one of the three novels whose text is searchable at Amazon.) Certainly Savoy is aware that its subject matter is inflammatory. Britton and Butterworth relish their ability to scandalize, épater le bourgeois. They are guilty of this much. But does that make their work dangerous?
There are all sorts of moral codes at play in the Lord Horror novels, and there is even the odd maudlin moment: "Nobody knows how it feels to put a child into the ground. Unaccustomed tears would come to Ecker. Every monster imagined by mankind had died and was reborn a hundred times more terrifying in the concentration camps of Bergen-Belsen and Dachau." [MF 65] But fragments of morality do not make a book moral. "Dangerous" books are often justified by claiming that they possess some latent or even superior morality. Simone de Beauvoir used this tactic in Must We Burn Sade?. William Burroughs has been almost forcibly moralized by his supporters, as in publisher John Calder's obituary: "Like Swift, [Burroughs] was a moralist torn between horror and gloat."
This may not be entirely untrue, and no doubt the same could be said of Savoy's productions. For example, Motherfuckers makes the point that it is not the vanguardist who holds nothing sacred. It is the businessman.
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| Fifty years on, Horror had confided to Ecker, Auschwitz would be a recognisable brand name, a mythic character as well-known as Sherlock Holmes or Tarzan. A fortune awaited the author who could bring "Mr Auschwitz" to life... In a hundred years, Auschwitz would form its own genre and become the most successfully marketed product in the history of the world, a name as well-known globally as Coca Cola. [MF 69] |
But emphasizing the rectitude of these books seems disingenuous. The importance of Sade is to have mapped out a terrain of sexuality beyond good and evil. The importance of Burroughs lies not in his morality — a mind-your-own-business ethos typical of certain classes of American — but in his art (his vivid language, black humour, routines, cut-ups). So too with the Lord Horror novels. You can read them like the Gospel, if you want, and draw out the lessons. But that's not really the point. These are not moral books. They're good books.
This disjunction between ethics and aesthetics plays an important role in the novels themselves. What may well scandalize some readers — especially the ones in judicial robes — is not the absence of moralizing but the presence of aestheticizing. Here is Lord Horror describing the death throes of a man he has just stabbed:
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| Language is truly poetic only in so far as it is used musically, plastically or, only when it is filled with scintillating colour... Dying in my arms, Lord Boothby exhibited a similar trait; the purist 'visible speech' of Tone-Eurhythmy. How disappointing no sound engineer was there to record his declamation. What came from him were the last soul-qualities of the Human Being giving expression both audibly through speech and visibly through Eurhythmy — music translated into movement — slippery and ethereal. Boothby was not dancing in any real sense of the word but rather paying respects with movement as he prepared to journey from this world. [BBM 82] |
He expresses no revulsion at the deed, no self-doubt about the need to kill, no fear of recrimination by society. It's murder considered as a fine art. Moral valuations are replaced by aesthetic ones. Hitler, far from being a failed painter, "has become the most successful artist of all time, certainly the most studied." [LH 20] The insight is weirdly true, if you think about it, but it also has the effect of portraying atrocities as artistic triumphs.
Rather than condemn the aestheticization of violence from the standpoint of the victim or the man of conscience, Savoy takes the opposite tack: the Lord Horror books repeat the ploy, substituting artistic evaluations where moral ones might seem more appropriate. And while they do this they turn up the volume, carry the tactic to new extremes, attain satire via hyperbole and excess. It's like someone saying to you, "How would you like a punch in the kisser?" And you respond, "I'd love that." You don't really mean that you want to be punched. To the contrary, your sarcasm negates the threat, implies that the pain it promises is no pain at all. So too with Savoy. Fascism says, "Fiat arts, pereat mundus: let there be art no matter how much of the world gets fucked as a result." And Savoy says, "I'd love that." But you'd have to be a rube or a judge to think that that's what they really mean.
Britton has been shy about personal publicity — perhaps an understandable result of having been to prison twice for obscenity. The only picture of him that has appeared in a Savoy publication shows a young man in the 1960s affecting a rock star glamdom. He grew up in industrial Manchester, the son of a Christian mother and Jewish father. This fact is either trivial — meaning that his half-Jewish parentage has no bearing whatsoever on the Horror world in his head — or it's so deeply Oedipal that you hate even to pursue the thought. Suffice to say that this is probably an interesting line of inquiry for the writer's intimates, and everybody else will have to content themselves with descriptions of Britton as congenial, inspired, generous, polymathic, fun, a "xenophobic Lautréamont from Manchester" as artist Kris Guidio once called him.
Britton's earliest publications were not texts but images. He contributed illustrations to weird independent zines, eventually joining Butterworth as art director at a venture they called WordWorks. At what point did his artistic output become a literary one? Emerging from his first stint in prison in a self-described fury, Britton took over a novel that Butterworth had been writing called Das Neue Leben. He seemed to do to it what Old Shatterhand, Hitler's creature penis, does to a rare volume of Schopenhauer in Lord Horror — inundate it, flood it with his manic imagination. The literary result was the first novel in the series, and the ironic result was that Britton was sent back to prison. Once there, he must have said to himself: "They think that's obscene? These fuckers don't even know the beginning of obscene. This is obscene." He spewed out Motherfuckers, and from there the character and the mythos took on a life of their own.
From Horror Panegyric by Supervert.
Pictures by John Coulthart. _________________
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i just finished the final volume of osamu tezuka's buddha series.
i had no idea it would hit me so hard. i'm, uh, a little teary over here. the weight of having spent all these months and pages with buddha, tatta, migaila, ananda, ajatasattu, naradatta, dhepa, bimbisara... man.
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