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Shrugged, Atlas



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Fan Made Games, and Mods (The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly)    Reply with quote

Stumbled across these while watching some Castlevania videos. These ones were my favorite.

The Ugly







Also, a friend introduced me to this forum a year or so ago and showed me a topic featuring a really awful game for the PC that was made by one person. Really bad 3D graphics. Sort of looked like it would run on Windows 95. Like an adventure game, of sorts, and he made a trailer that he hosted on YouTube. I think he had a website, too. I think he was autistic. He claimed it was the best game ever. And no, it's not Bob's Game. Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:44 am        Reply with quote

Shrugged, Atlas wrote:
Also, a friend introduced me to this forum a year or so ago and showed me a topic featuring a really awful game for the PC that was made by one person. Really bad 3D graphics. Sort of looked like it would run on Windows 95. Like an adventure game, of sorts, and he made a trailer that he hosted on YouTube. I think he had a website, too. I think he was autistic. He claimed it was the best game ever. And no, it's not Bob's Game. Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?

Quite Soulless?

As far as awful mods go...


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:07 am        Reply with quote

I like how she has this apologetic look on her face in that screen. Like, sorry, I didn't want it this way. I tried.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:10 am        Reply with quote

Those 3D Castlevania videos are kind of amazing. They don't look like they'd be very much fun to play but it's crazy that someone went to the trouble to make them in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:55 am        Reply with quote

Yeah, the engine on the first one does some things very well, actually. It would be an interesting game if it didn't had Castlevania gameplay and art attached to it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: horrible fan made games, and mods    Reply with quote

Shrugged, Atlas wrote:

Also, a friend introduced me to this forum a year or so ago and showed me a topic featuring a really awful game for the PC that was made by one person. Really bad 3D graphics. Sort of looked like it would run on Windows 95. Like an adventure game, of sorts, and he made a trailer that he hosted on YouTube. I think he had a website, too. I think he was autistic. He claimed it was the best game ever. And no, it's not Bob's Game. Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?


http://www.ulillillia.us/mainindex.shtml
Hes not autistic he has asperges if I remember rightly, hes written a book and its fucking mental its main character is called Knuckles and flies and he describes the colour of objects with hex codes and also writes battle scenes as if they have big floating stat windows like an rpg.



Thats his game, also check out his videos where he takes you on a tour of the highest mountains on level 1 of Bubsy 3D, he also has about 60 minutes of videos detailing how he updates his huge website manually by hand.

he also has tips on how to remove fat from pizzas and burger http://www.ulillillia.us/tipsntricks/fatremovaltrick.shtml
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: horrible fan made games, and mods    Reply with quote

les meat wrote:
Hes not autistic he has asperges


Pretty sure Asperger's is on the autism spectrum.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:34 pm        Reply with quote

That Quake 1 mod of course isn't that great by real standards, but I remember being impressed with the way Richter controlled.

That project got scrapped in favor of the slightly less unfinished Ascension of Virgil, which was a weird mix of Castlevania, a side scrolling brawler, and a tiny bit of Devil May Cry's combo based combat system. There's a Dreamcast version of it floating about.

The weirdest Quake mod game remake that never got finished is probably Vagrant Story Quake.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:38 pm        Reply with quote

he's not autistic at all, he has very severe ocd.
i can't believe he managed to lose weight just by soak the fat out of pizza using paper towels.
reading his website terrifies me. it's like his mind is completely alien to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:18 pm        Reply with quote

Flackon wrote:
Shrugged, Atlas wrote:
Also, a friend introduced me to this forum a year or so ago and showed me a topic featuring a really awful game for the PC that was made by one person. Really bad 3D graphics. Sort of looked like it would run on Windows 95. Like an adventure game, of sorts, and he made a trailer that he hosted on YouTube. I think he had a website, too. I think he was autistic. He claimed it was the best game ever. And no, it's not Bob's Game. Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?

Quite Soulless?


That's the one! What's the deal with that game, anyways?

Mr. Mechanical wrote:
Those 3D Castlevania videos are kind of amazing. They don't look like they'd be very much fun to play but it's crazy that someone went to the trouble to make them in the first place.


I was thinking the same thing, actually. The amount of work that was required to make something like that is impressive, to say the least, but a spade is a spade.

Ulillillia makes my heart, and my head hurt.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:32 pm        Reply with quote

Love in the first video how when the sun clears the horizon it MELTS MY EYEBALLS.

And in Sonata of BlooD those zombies seem to have the jidai-geki syndrome of not being able to kill one man despite outnumbering him by about fifty.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:45 pm        Reply with quote




Sonic fan game equivalent of WINNER IS YOU




Christ don't give Sega ideas
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:07 pm        Reply with quote

Oh my god the related videos are burning my eyes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:09 pm        Reply with quote

The game in the first video is actually a 3D remake of Castlevania Quest, a pretty alright Castlevania game made by the same author that depicted Castlevania 2 in the linear style of the first game. It used NES sprite work but included parallax effects and its BGM both remixed and in some cases completely original.

I really enjoyed it at the time- back in those days if we wanted an OK classic-style Castlevania game composed of recycled elements we couldn't buy one on the Wii.

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The same guy later made Dracula's Shadow, which was in the style of Castlevania II but had an "original" story that made no sense along with "original" characters which were just variants of Sonia, Simon, and Alucard.

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It had some tremendously bad flaws, the most notable of which was the inclusion of worse-than-Zelda 2 style level up system where you not only lost your experience points upon getting a game over, but had to suddenly fight the bosses of the game the very moment your exp hit a certain level. Your life didn't even refill before this, and if you died your didn't level up and your exp reset.

I beat it anyway, which I guess makes it better than Order of Ecclessia. There was one stage with a really awesome remix of the Clocktower theme from CV3.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:48 pm        Reply with quote

The first video looks kind of like Sonic X-Treme with the fish-eye. I love that literal attempt to move 2d games to 3d, it's too bad Super Paper Mario screwed it up.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:00 pm        Reply with quote

So are those games romhacks or programmed from scratch, showka?

I did play a couple of homebrew Mario games for the GBA though. They weren't THAT bad but the physics were ever so different from the originals and having recently played through SMB3 Advance, it just became unplayable for me. It's the little things I guess. (it also had the SMB3 Mario sprite while the rest of it was made with SMW graphics. why do so many prefer him over 16-bit Mario?)

I also remember playing a roguelike (let's leave the debate to the other thread) Mario game with randomly generated levels. What got me was a quickly it became dull though. Was sort of expecting it to last a while.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:41 pm        Reply with quote

edit: whoops

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:46 pm        Reply with quote

What's that terrible, mostly unplayable rock climbing game called? The one where your mouse is mapped to your climbing pick, and you have to somehow muscle your way through the controls in order to get over obstacles? The only way to jump is to hit the ground hard enough that it propels your character upward?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:47 pm        Reply with quote

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And the original Sonic Robo Blast (the sequel uses the doom engine):



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I think those links are protected.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:21 pm        Reply with quote

Lymojo wrote:
What's that terrible, mostly unplayable rock climbing game called? The one where your mouse is mapped to your climbing pick, and you have to somehow muscle your way through the controls in order to get over obstacles? The only way to jump is to hit the ground hard enough that it propels your character upward?

Sexy Hiking, but that's an original game, right?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:28 pm        Reply with quote

Lymojo wrote:
What's that terrible, mostly unplayable rock climbing game called? The one where your mouse is mapped to your climbing pick, and you have to somehow muscle your way through the controls in order to get over obstacles? The only way to jump is to hit the ground hard enough that it propels your character upward?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:21 am        Reply with quote

Oh right, fan games. I guess I thought we meant fans of the medium, or something...

Anyway, while I was failing to find Sexy Hiking I stumbled upon this:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:36 am        Reply with quote

Is this like, the American version of idol videos?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:17 am        Reply with quote

Shrugged, Atlas wrote:
Castlevania Quest Horror


the camera angles in this are unbelievable.
like, that someone decided on all of them blows my mind.

youtube wrote:
My self a great Akumajo Dracula X fan (castlevania) and collected all title on all system .I would say that this castlevania horror Quest look very fun and if we was back in time ,it would be one of the greatest castlevania .
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:22 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
Is this like, the American version of idol videos?


I have no idea but it's creeping me out.

And the bit about shooting guns in the title is a huge lie.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:35 am        Reply with quote

Don't worry, if it is hot girls shooting guns you seek, YouTube will not disappoint you.

This girl kicks like a tae kwon do wuss. Also she plays Heroes of Might and Magic. I can't begin to understand.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:39 am        Reply with quote

While searching for an old and terrible Zelda fan game I'm sure nobody but me has every played, I found this site, a collection of zelda fan games. Some of them look quite awful. Some of them look not so bad. Feel free to showcase the worst if anyone else has the time to dig through them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:18 am        Reply with quote

You guys know nothing about sexy hiking.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:18 am        Reply with quote

So how about some good fangames? They definitely exist! Sure this stuff is sad, but I can't help but think about the effort put and what the author may have learned from it, since then. Unless they dripped their hobby altogether...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:14 pm        Reply with quote

ionustron wrote:
So how about some good fangames?


http://smw.72dpiarmy.com/ (Or so I've heard.)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:46 pm        Reply with quote

ionustron wrote:
So how about some good fangames? They definitely exist! Sure this stuff is sad, but I can't help but think about the effort put and what the author may have learned from it, since then. Unless they dripped their hobby altogether...




But other than that I think most of the time the very state of mind behind making a fangame implies most of them want to make something derivative more than something good, and those who don't will become known enough to have their project deemed a threat and C&D'd. It works for doujin games because japanese companies are more lax with these matters.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:29 pm        Reply with quote

The first video in this thread is really neat. I bet if he had a good artist to work with he could make something really interesting.

-Wes
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:55 pm        Reply with quote

Ymer wrote:
So are those games romhacks or programmed from scratch, showka?

From scratch, using the Allegro libraries. They're pretty old, too- I remember playing Castlevania Quest at full speed on an ancient Windows 95 machine.

I like fan games- to me, they're like ROM hacks but with more freedom.

I found this while looking for the second part of the Castlevania Quest video:
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:00 pm        Reply with quote

cannibalism @ 1:30
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:08 pm        Reply with quote

Now THAT looks rather lovely.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:43 pm        Reply with quote

I totally changed the name of the topic to broaden the scope of what we can post in here, seeming as not all "fan-made" games are necessarily awful.

Touhou + Castlevania = Koumajo Scarlet Symphony/Touhouvania



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:06 pm        Reply with quote

thing about these castlevania-clones is, you know, the better programmed they are, the more you have to ask yourself why you're not just playing an actual castlevania game -- or, why didn't the game creators come up with a different, well-developed theme to fit over the similar/identical mechanics.

the super-powered-little-girls unyuu~ stuff is so awful
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:47 pm        Reply with quote

Well, there's the feeling of community, or on a basest level, the fact you're guaranteed a certain audience if you use a known theme. That oddly combined with what you said is why you see people refit Megaman or Castlevania into the Touhou mold, for example (which in japan is possibly the hugest amateur stuff-making community right now). Also some people are good at reproducing/undersanding/refining gameplay mechanics, or programming, or drawing, but not at creating a theme to bind it all, which is why they use an existing one.
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b-b-bump

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