[parker]

You shouldn't limit yourself like that.
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

you guys are terrible

[Adilegian]

[end of the world]

[Toups]

time to add that "u rappin' awful" button
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[This Machine Kills Fascis]

I also think that it's best to avoid watching one of the greatest television shows ever made, because some of the episodes are worse than others.

This is why I've avoided The Wire, The Simpsons, Battlestar Galactica (reboot), Aeon Flux, X-Files, and most other shows.

I mostly just watch episodes of The Prisoner and Seinfeld over and over again.
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"Godzilla could be anyone."

[Sniper Honeyviper]

I feel I should bring to attention that Forrest Kaysen has a prominent role in Spy Fiction, the first game SWERY directed.

There might be other characters, I'm only on the second mission.

Interestingly enough, the game lets you assume the identity and appearance of almost any NPC (not Kaysen, he always blabs at you if you try to take his picture), but only the female spy is allowed to crossdress.

[TXTSWORD]

Should I play spy fiction y/n.

P.S. I got to learn firsthand (by watching someone else play alien soldier) where your avatar is from todayyyyy

[Sniper Honeyviper]

If you had the patience to finish DP, then I would say Spy Fiction is absolutely worth checking out. It's not as overtly wacky, but it's got the same bizarre "Japan does America" atmosphere, and the dialogue is deliciously awkward.

It plays like a cheap knockoff of MGS2/3, but the structure is playfully open-ended in the same way, and there's enough uniqueness in the disguise system and gadgets to prevent it from feeling derivative. The only serious issue is the fussy camera, which becomes less of a problem after the tutorial mission. Better game design than DP, really, and the difficulty settings actually affect AI and puzzles!

[TXTSWORD]

Wow that actually sounds p good, man.

[klj5j6li]

[jamie]

Right, look.

Twin Peaks 'season 2' isn't what sucks, it is everything after the killer of Laura is revealed and that story comes to it's conclusion. Which is 9 episodes into the 22 episode second season, so almost half of season 2 is completely up to the standard of the first season. I wouldn't know about what happens after that, I stopped when the story came to it's conclusion. Just stop when it's clear that it is over, anyone who is reading, and it is so cool.

So, if you stop then, you've got 16 excellent, focused and unique episodes of a well-written TV show about a very specific place, time and group of people. It's super cool. Don't listen to the season 2 sucks stuff, those people are being inaccurate and lazy in their washed over view of the series. The whole season one is excellent, and episodes 1-9 of season two are excellent, and then the series is over. Just do it that way. There is nothing for us after the 16th episode of the show. They didn't make that for us.

I hear the finale is very good, but I'm not interested in wading those waters. Where I left Twin Peaks, and continue to revisit and depart from it, is perfect. It's just fine. My suggestion is to do it that way.

[This Machine Kills Fascis]

The finale is very very good, and the rest of season two is pretty watchable. Most people who look back on the show assume that all the series' mythology is in the "good" episodes, but really most of it is in the "bad" episodes. The "bad" episodes are really just a little too cute for their own good, and after watching them they feel disposable in a way that the previous episodes don't. But there are worse uses of your time than watching some subpar episodes of a great show, especially since they provide the context for a fantastic finale.

You know if there's any part of the show that really makes it better if you skip it, it's probably the last ten or so minutes of the episode that resolves Laura's murder--the part where Cooper explains in no uncertain terms exactly what Bob is and how he figured out who the "murderer" was. It really ruins a lot of the show's hard-earned subtlety. I completely forgot that they just tell you all that stuff. Pretty disappointing.
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"Godzilla could be anyone."

[klj5j6li]

Actually yeah you're totally right there. I just got so mad about wasting my time with the last parts of the series that it's hard to recommend it to anyone at all.

[Sniper Honeyviper]

So I guess no one else was interested enough in SWERY's career and the previous roles of the DP cast to play Spy Fiction?

[smartblue]

More like it is a semi obscure game from seven years ago, but this is as good a reminder for me to look for it again at the local used trade shops as any.
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[Sniper Honeyviper]

Amazon/ebay is your friend.

Strangely, it's more expensive than DP now (though not by much)!

[boojiboy7]

It's pretty terrible, really, though Forrest Kaysen is in it.

[TXTSWORD]

[Sniper Honeyviper]

I wasn't referring to you, TXTSWORD!

And booji, I find it hard to believe that someone who enjoyed DMC2 to some degree couldn't find any redeeming value in Spy Fiction.

[boojiboy7]

Well, see, at least the base mechanics of DMC2 were fun, even if they fucked so much else up. So much of playing Spy Fiction was just torturous. It's still a funny game, but the actual palying of it is just clunky and annoying after a bit. People should play it if they want to, but don't go in expecting anything near DP.

[Sniper Honeyviper]

No more clunky and annoying than most of DP.

Like I said, it's only for those with enough patience. And personally, I find subpar, convoluted controls and unclear objectives much more fun and interesting than the modern Arkham Asylum/Castlevania LoS method of turning everything into a QTE.

I've noticed that a few animations from Spy Fiction were reused in DP, such as the dumpster diving one (which actually has a purpose in SF).

[boojiboy7]

[Sniper Honeyviper]

Nah, because you always really have to think about and plan what you're doing, while DP's combat is just mindless headshotting and QTEs.

The cutscene when you bump into Kaysen while disguised as him is easily on par with the best of DP's.

Also getting NPCs stuck in an endless loop of "Huh?....Guess it was nothing."

[Sniper Honeyviper]

Have we posted this Gamescom SWERY interview already?

[Renfrew]

I know I'm kind of late to the party, but I just want to chime in and say I love this game and have been trying my best to spread the word on it.
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[wourme]

At this point, I think it's safe to assume that I'll never get an XBOX 360. However, I still want to try this game.

It looks as if import copies of Red Seeds Profile for PS3 are no longer outrageously expensive, so I'll probably go that route soon. There's no real language barrier for someone who doesn't know Japanese at all, is there? I understand that there is an English language option for dialogue, but are the menus and things navigable?

[remote]

Maybe there's something on the internet that will guide you through, but you're going to have trouble trying to play it on your own.
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[Jigsaw]

The voices are in English, but all the text is in Japanese. This includes menus, item/quest descriptions, flavour text for whenever York examines something, non-essential dialogue (ie not directly related to the advancement of the main quest), and a few puzzles. If you can read katakana then you can probably navigate menus etc well enough for the game to be playable, strictly speaking, but there is most definitely a language barrier to get over.

[bleak]

deadly premonition is a video game made for people that love playing video games and that is at once both its biggest strength and weakness. i love it.
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[firenze]

Perhaps the finest Yelp reviewer I've ever come across...

No, it's not me.

[X-pert74]

I've beaten Deadly Premonition 4 times, and have done just about everything that I think is possible in the game. I thought it was an amazing game and I loved it, but reading through the discussion in this thread has made me view some aspects of the game in a different light. Some of Adilegian's points in particular about sexism were things that I didn't really pick up on when I played it (particularly the "honor killing" thing), but now seem obvious to me. I think that's kind of a shame about Deadly Premonition, but as a whole I still consider it one of my favorite games I've played. The experience as a whole that I had, both with the gameplay and the storytelling/characters was wonderful. I hadn't seen Twin Peaks before playing the game, but went on to watch the whole series+Fire Walk With Me after beating it, and I enjoyed most of that too. I didn't like the way the series concluded or the majority of the movie, but I still enjoyed watching it. I prefer Deadly Premonition though; mainly because of it feeling more fully-realized (having actual closure and all), and my preferring York over Dale Cooper as a character.

I also bought Spy Fiction a few months ago, but I haven't started playing it yet. I'll get around to it at some point; I'm looking forward to seeing what else Swery has made.

[boojiboy7]

[X-pert74]

Well, that's odd. When I was playing the game I had the quest occur at least two/three times for me while I was on my way to finding all seven bones, and I was still able to have it happen again once I had all seven and could get the infinite magnum. I don't know why it wouldn't work for you.
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[boojiboy7]

Yeah, it sucked, because that gun makes things a lot more tolerable, combat-wise.

[TXTSWORD]

You can get the infinite wrench like - right away - and that fixes the game. Then infinite flame thrower for the wall crawlers. I'm not sure I ever got the magnum.

[X-pert74]

The Magnum isn't much more necessary than the other infinite weapons, but it's still nice to have.

I wish that more of the infinite weapons were accessible prior to beating the game. A lot of them can only be found after you've already beaten the main game though (mainly the ones that you find by replaying the "other world" segments), and there's no New Game + so you can't even carry them on to a new game.
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[zombieman000]

You can do New Game + on individual chapters, but not being able to save until the end of a chapter is a hassle.

[X-pert74]

They don't count for getting achievements related to the other difficulties though; I first beat the game on Normal, then played through each chapter separately in Easy and didn't get the achievement; hence why I eventually played the game four times :p
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[zombieman000]

Yeah, true. What kept me from getting the achievements was noticing how many shots it took to kill zombies on the higher difficulties. I didn't want to sit through any more of the combat than I needed to :S

[boojiboy7]