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Dark Age Iron Savior
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:49 am        Reply with quote

What is the ideal OS to have installed if you want to run late-90s DOS and Windows (specifically 98) games? Stuff that's too intensive for DOSBox and perhaps too finicky for virtual machines.

In particular, what if you also want to be running something to capture video/audio, like FRAPs?

(I understand that FRAPs doesn't do a lot of stuff from that era, but you know what I mean)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:58 am        Reply with quote

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Got a real important question here does somebody make a knockoff or something of the vibrator peripheral for rez for 360 or do you just got to make do with a controller?


parker will sell you my japan ps2 with trance vibrator Rez.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:52 am        Reply with quote

Somebody tell me quick if these are worth it:

http://www.gog.com/en/promo/activision_rpg
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:58 am        Reply with quote

At that price, I'd pretty much say they are definitely worth it, but it depends on how big a CRPG fan you are.
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I guess at that price I could buy them and find out.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:04 am        Reply with quote

I just bought them, so I guess that's my answer :P
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:42 am        Reply with quote

Dark Age Iron Savior wrote:
What is the ideal OS to have installed if you want to run late-90s DOS and Windows (specifically 98) games? Stuff that's too intensive for DOSBox and perhaps too finicky for virtual machines.
I'd say windows 95/98, but you'll find running them in modern machines can be quite the headache - In particular 98 won't enjoy being in a drive that's larger than 120Gb, and requires being the first (or pretty close to it) operating system due to bootcode only reading the first 2Gb from the drive (or so I recall). It also has problems managing more than 512MB of memory (albeit this can be fixed). Considering your computer has enough compatibility still left in it for Win98 setup to recognize it, you still need windows 98 drivers for your modern graphic and audio card. So, it might not be a totally bad idea to get a separate computer if you're looking to run really quirky software.

If you want a proper x86 emulator without virtualization to run old stuff, you might want to consider bochs, albeit this will also be pretty slow by any standards.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:53 pm        Reply with quote

In Blue Dragon (360), the title screen's suddenly started displaying "New Game+", even though I'm nowhere near the end of the game and haven't even finished Disc 1. It also informed me for the first time that "downloadable content was detected," although I got the DLC weeks ago.

The save file seems to be okay, but some freaky stuff's been happening in the game itself since, like normally aggressive enemies refusing to ever attack in battles, and monsters running up against walls non-stop in the field. Is my 360 eating itself, or are these normal glitches, and the title screen is supposed to change once you reach a certain point (the Dullahan boss)? If it makes a difference, I have the disc installed.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:31 pm        Reply with quote

I wouldn't give up on the virtual machines, DAIS. I've never tried to install Win98 in VMware, but it's doubtless easier than any other options available to you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:41 pm        Reply with quote

You could always build a 486.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:59 pm        Reply with quote

Are there any clever ways to free-up HDD space outside of uninstalling programs and deleting files? Because I cannot understand why my laptop is bloated with so much invisible/unknown guff.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:51 pm        Reply with quote

Download spacemonger (old versions are free) to get a good idea of what's taking up space on your disk. The last time I used it I found loads of stuff I could get rid of.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:04 pm        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
You could always build a 486.
A Pentium MMX, or a Pentium II - Running 98 on a 486 is a experience best forgotten. If you can get your hands in a Pentium II @ 800Mhz they're as good as you can get in the Windows 98 department (they're also pretty okay machines for XP - I have one right next to me).
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:09 pm        Reply with quote

Mr Peckerston wrote:
Download spacemonger (old versions are free) to get a good idea of what's taking up space on your disk. The last time I used it I found loads of stuff I could get rid of.


Oh man, even though it wasn't my question I tried this just now and it found a bunch of bullshit I didn't even know was on my computer.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:37 pm        Reply with quote

Mr Peckerston wrote:
Download spacemonger (old versions are free) to get a good idea of what's taking up space on your disk. The last time I used it I found loads of stuff I could get rid of.


Found this pretty handy indeed. Thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:49 am        Reply with quote

Dark Age Iron Savior wrote:
What is the ideal OS to have installed if you want to run late-90s DOS and Windows (specifically 98) games? Stuff that's too intensive for DOSBox and perhaps too finicky for virtual machines.

In particular, what if you also want to be running something to capture video/audio, like FRAPs?


Even without considering FRAPS, I'd have said Windows 2000. Considering the current main version of FRAPS says it is for "Windows 2000, XP, 2003, Vista and Windows 7", I'd recommend it even more strongly.

98 is more ubiquitous, but I have never had an issue playing a game on a Win2000 machine that will work on Win95/98. 2000 is better than 98 because it's a fuckton more stable. It's a rock. I say this with a lot of experience in the first half of the 2000s as a PC tech dealing with tons of 98/2000 machines for everyone from businesses to universities to crazy old ladies. The result of that experience is that I completely trust 2000, whereas 98 installations seem like they can go to shit if you look on them funny. 2000 also has better networking (that NT lineage).

I'm currently on a 90s PC game kick myself and I plan to dedicate a Win2000 system for that purpose very shortly. Since I've finally gone over to Win7 64-bit on my main machine, it's a royal pain to run some of this stuff. I'm talking older games - Syndicate, Magic Carpet, AD&D Gold Box games, Heart of Darkness... they're a hassle. So I'm just gonna throw 2000 on my old notebook and turn it into my "old games" machine (plus I'll probably turn it into a print server).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:03 am        Reply with quote

well, you'd be better off playing most of the gold box games on an amiga emulator. i think maybe a few of the later/vga ones (pod, dqk, totsf) looked better on dos but all of them run flawlessly in dosbox
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:56 pm        Reply with quote

firenze wrote:
Dark Age Iron Savior wrote:
What is the ideal OS to have installed if you want to run late-90s DOS and Windows (specifically 98) games? Stuff that's too intensive for DOSBox and perhaps too finicky for virtual machines.

In particular, what if you also want to be running something to capture video/audio, like FRAPs?


Even without considering FRAPS, I'd have said Windows 2000. Considering the current main version of FRAPS says it is for "Windows 2000, XP, 2003, Vista and Windows 7", I'd recommend it even more strongly.

98 is more ubiquitous, but I have never had an issue playing a game on a Win2000 machine that will work on Win95/98.


Agreed on 2000 being awesome but it lacks DOS altogether.

I'd probably just VM 98SE.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:08 pm        Reply with quote

when copying and uploading a pc game, is it alright to just copy all of the contents of the cd and throw it in a rar and upload that instead of making an iso? what's the disadvantage of it? that i'll need a nocd crack? is there any way for someone who doesn't have a physical copy of the game to make a working iso out of those rar'd files?
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T. wrote:
when copying and uploading a pc game, is it alright to just copy all of the contents of the cd and throw it in a rar and upload that instead of making an iso? what's the disadvantage of it? that i'll need a nocd crack? is there any way for someone who doesn't have a physical copy of the game to make a working iso out of those rar'd files?


Depends on how well the game is protected. NoCD cracks typically only allow you to run the installed executable without a CD, so for those to be of any use you need to actually install the game first, which means that if the installer does any kind of media check you're screwed.

The recipient could make an ISO out of the plain files but it wouldn't check out as any more legit to any media checks than the directory full of files he made it out of so you'd still need noCD stuff.

I'd go the disc image route myself.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:31 pm        Reply with quote

thanks! though that's the answer i was fearing

what's the best software for making a disc image?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:14 pm        Reply with quote

ImgBurn will do what you need and it's free. Hard to beat that.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:46 pm        Reply with quote

In Perfect Dark XBLA I can only set up 4 simulants in the combat simulator as opposed to 8 on the N64. Is this it or do I need to unlock the rest somehow?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:41 pm        Reply with quote

is there an easy way of ripping pages out of .pdf files?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:48 pm        Reply with quote

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Loki Laufeyson wrote:
is there an easy way of ripping pages out of .pdf files?
The best way, in my opinion, is to install a PDF printer like PrimoPDF or it's ilk, and then print the required pages from your PDF viewer. This results in another PDF with only your selected content. I'm unsure if that's what you're looking for, however.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:50 pm        Reply with quote

what i really wanted was to be able to save them as images
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:58 pm        Reply with quote

Same thing but use Image Printer instead.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:15 am        Reply with quote

does anyone know of any utilities that scan old (DOS-era) games for different types of image files, such as might be used for full-screen cutscenes?

I think I read about a Japanese utility that did something like this, with plugins being made, but I'm pretty sure it was made for the exclusive use of extracting the graphics from Windows porn games.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:07 am        Reply with quote

Dark Age Iron Savior wrote:
does anyone know of any utilities that scan old (DOS-era) games for different types of image files, such as might be used for full-screen cutscenes?
The concept of a "image file" in the DOS era was pretty vague, since people often rollled their own file formats for images and animation - from memory the most prolific standard was the FLIC or .FLC video format from Autodesk.

That said, you can try using File for Windows or TrID and see if they return any hits in order to start the hunt.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:43 am        Reply with quote

So what's the best way of obtaining & playing Diablo 2 on a modern system? Are there any fancy new renderers or hotfixes one needs, as with Deus Ex?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:39 am        Reply with quote

Doesn't the new battle.net sell a downloadable Diablo 2 now? I'd imagine that came with everything you need.
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Yes you can download D2x from battle.net (I did it for my gf), but it doesn't come with fancy new things. But, technically, you don't need them. Some people like playing with increased resolutions, and there are mods for that, but they're not b.net playable, and what the fuck is the point. If you really want to play D2x how it is intended, get a hold of a good community (I used to play w/ somethingawful goons, but even they've been shitty lately), and leech their gear. Once you get enough midlevel gear you can MF find high level gear. Once you have high level gear you can trade on sites like D2jsp for your-build-specific gear. It should take ~20 hrs to do the whole thing if you're cool.

But! Solo D2x is a really shitty game. Good drops don't drop enough. You can get through normal without too much trouble, and nightmare, too, if you pick a standard build. But hell is hell unless you play online.
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I'm playing Knights of Xentar, CD-rom version, on DOSbox, and it runs fine, apart from some hideous keyboard lag.

I push a direction button, and the guy moves one square, but then even if I hold the button down, he pauses for about a second before starting a steady walk in that direction.

I can't find any info on the net, but is this supposed to happen? Isn't he meant to move smoothly like in other RPGs? It's a real pain when wanting to switch directions, since if you hold right, then switch and hold left, he'll only move one square to the left and then just freeze, and I need to hit left AGAIN for him to resume walking.

I've tried fiddling with DB's CPU cycles but this does nothing. Whether 500 or 25000 cycles, he still pauses after I hold a button down.

I just want him to move and continue moving in whatever direction I order him.

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:22 pm        Reply with quote

Sketch wrote:
I can't find any info on the net, but is this supposed to happen? Isn't he meant to move smoothly like in other RPGs? It's a real pain when wanting to switch directions, since if you hold right, then switch and hold left, he'll only move one square to the left and then just freeze, and I need to hit left AGAIN for him to resume walking.

I've tried fiddling with DB's CPU cycles but this does nothing. Whether 500 or 25000 cycles, he still pauses after I hold a button down.
This is provably something related to the typematic rate.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:13 am        Reply with quote

Thank you Takashi - that will probably prove useful for more things than just DOSbox games!

EDIT:
Where exactly can I find this fabled Turbokey program? Hours of googling have yielded nothing, only forum topics talking about it.

EDIT 2:
Never mind, it's actually on the forum linked to. But damn, it took while of screwing around in DOSbox's DOS prompt before I got it to work.

Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:19 pm        Reply with quote

gooktime wrote:
So what's the best way of obtaining & playing Diablo 2 on a modern system? Are there any fancy new renderers or hotfixes one needs, as with Deus Ex?


i still see the battlechest sold in stores for $20
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:12 pm        Reply with quote

So... can you play UMD games on the PS3 using remote play, or what?

I just wanna use the big screen for Peace Walker.
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bleak wrote:
So... can you play UMD games on the PS3 using remote play, or what?

I just wanna use the big screen for Peace Walker.


If you want to play PW on the big screen you have to use a 2000 or newer and use component cables. If you want to play PW with a Dualshock 3 you have to use a Go and link the DS3 with your Go and PS3. It's obtuse and stupid and I'd buy a DS3 controller adapter for my PSP3000 in a heartbeat.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:23 am        Reply with quote

I actually wanted the first option. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:36 am        Reply with quote

I'll be getting a new computer in the next couple weeks. Is there some way to make Steam have all my saves and settings for my games in the cloud so I can redownload them on the new PC, or do I have to do it by hand?
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pretty sure steam cloud only works for games that use it (mostly valve stuff and some newer third party releases here and there). 'fraid you're going to have to track down the saves in all of the wacky paths on your hard drive that the developers of the games you own told them to exist :(
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