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Dracko
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:00 pm        Reply with quote

Sniper Honeyviper wrote:
It'll be a standalone release on a boxed disc, as far as anyone knows at this point.

Guess we'll see, but it'd be interesting if it turns out the game is around the same length as the original.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:03 pm        Reply with quote

It could be a $20 disc! But the Steamworks integration strongly suggests a downloadable game. It could quite possibly be both.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:11 pm        Reply with quote

Portal 1 on PC got its own budget retail release some time after Orange Box came out, I remember.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:26 pm        Reply with quote

Why does Steamworks necessitate a digital download version? Doesn't it just mean your options/configurations/saves are copied/stored on Valve's servers so they can be downloaded to any copy of the game? I don't see why the entire game would have to be digitally distributed for this to work; there could just be an option on the main menu that says "download configuration/saves from Steamworks," and then it would download the whatevers.


One of the reasons I was gravitating towards the PSP Go so much was because of the built in 16GB memory and form factor. I've really been wanting a convenient MP3 player, as my cell phone isn't cutting it anymore. I don't need anything fancy for an MP3 player; in fact, the PSP's functionality was completely competent for me. But the original PSP was too bulky and heavy for me to carry while exercising. And a 16GB memory stick for the original PSP costs around $70. Since I also want a new PSP, I thought this would kill two birds with one stone. However, since Honeyviper has some concerns over the feel of the system, I think I should probably try to get some hands on experience first. I'm really conflicted here; I'm still going to keep my old PSP as it technically still works. But if I use the Go for new games from here on out, perhaps things might work out.


Uh, now that I think about it, how heavy is the PSP Go? Would it get in the way of a nice jogging/biking if I kept it in my pocket?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:40 pm        Reply with quote

It is not much lighter, just over an ounce lighter. You wouldn't want to jog with it loose, probably.

If the way the PSP plays MP3s is fine with you, then that's cool. I have a friend who uses his 2000 as an MP3 player in the car sometimes. Just a personal thing. I prefer the cheap, tiny MP3 players. Sansa ones are nice.

Yeah, Memory Sticks are kind of expensive. But a 8GB one is $25. Consider that on a Go, every game you want to play has to be in memory, and some games are pretty big. Peace Walker is about 1.4 GB. Plus it has a mandatory install (even the PSN version!) of about 100 MB, 300 MB more if you want to hear codec voices in mission (which you do). It's a pretty big game, there are some smaller.

On a non-Go, you have UMDs so you don't need nearly as much space as a Go. So you'd probably be fine with 8GB MS for MP3s and such.

You should probably get some hands-on time with it. I haven't had any problem holding the thing except that the sides are a little sharp. I have a friend who replaced his stolen Phat with a Go and he like the way it feels too.

Also some new games don't show up on PSN, though they are kind of rare. Lots of anime games aren't on there, like Yu-Gi-Oh and Naruto games. Apparently Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep didn't go up on PSN in Japan, so it might not here, either. And Shadow of Destiny is a new game that didn't go up.

Also I'll reiterate that a PSP Go will be more expensive over time, even if it cost the same as a 3000 with a comparable Memory Stick. But I don't know how much you have to spend on games so that point might be moot. There are some good deals on older games on PSN, but new games are always expensive.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:42 pm        Reply with quote

The biggest thing about the Go is that you can use DS3 controllers on it. But you need a PSP, a PS3, and a DS3. It'd be awesome to play some Metal Gear Peace Walker on my HDTV with a DS3 controller, but I really don't think it's worth the cost. I'm also gaming fairly lean lately, so if you have money you don't know what to do with... yeah that's real reason to get a Go.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:20 pm        Reply with quote

I was under the impression that Portal 2 is going to be a full-on $60 20-hour game, but I don't really have a source for why I think that.
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Dracko
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:56 pm        Reply with quote

I don't see that happening.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:03 am        Reply with quote

Why not?
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Dark Age Iron Savior
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:35 am        Reply with quote

well obviously dracko is blind and you're an inconsiderate jerk
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:21 am        Reply with quote

I mean that in a completely non-jerky way. I am genuinely interested in why Dracko thinks that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:31 am        Reply with quote

20 hours is way too optimistic considering the average length for new releases these days.
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Dracko
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:38 pm        Reply with quote

Because stretching out a concept like Portal into a fully priced retail release probably wouldn't do it any favours and gamers might feel ripped off if it was a little over the original's length.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:24 pm        Reply with quote

1) Valve said when announcing Portal 2 that it would be a full-length, standard-priced release. That presumably means that it costs $60 on PS3 and 360 and $50 on PC. I think that's how L4D2 was priced, and I'd expect similar here.

2) During E3, Doug Lombardi told I think IGN that the single-player game is roughly twice the length of Portal and that the co-op campaign (which is entirely unique and distinct from the solo play) is the same again, so Portal 2 is effectively 4 times as long. The way he said it made it sound like twice as long was a very conservative estimate, and I got the impression that it was more like 2.5 or 3 times as long. Anyway, although he said that they didn't want to make Portal 2's single-player twenty hours long or anything too crazy, it sounds like it should be a solid eight to ten hours each for single player and co-op.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:06 pm        Reply with quote

Is the DS version of Dragon Quest V out of print or something? What the hell?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:21 pm        Reply with quote

Moogs wrote:
Is the DS version of Dragon Quest V out of print or something? What the hell?


Yeah it can be a bit hard to find (and expensive). I've actually bought two copies in local Gamestops though (one for me and one for a friend).

If you live in the US and near any Gamestops, your best bet is to use the Gamestop game locator to find a copy at a local store.

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73018

it'll also probably be the best price.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:29 pm        Reply with quote

What was the name of that Japanese Childhood Vacation Nostalgia Island type game that came out on PS2, maybe PSP?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:37 pm        Reply with quote

Boku no Natsuyasumi?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:52 pm        Reply with quote

i should know this but how do i make an individual dosbox configuration file for each game so i don't have to universally change settings with dosbox.conf
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:52 pm        Reply with quote

I'm fairly sure you can only do that through the various front-ends listed at the DOSBox site.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:22 pm        Reply with quote

What's the best way to get a downloaded PS2 .max save file on to a PS3?
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Moogs



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:47 pm        Reply with quote

LandRoverAttack wrote:
Moogs wrote:
Is the DS version of Dragon Quest V out of print or something? What the hell?


Yeah it can be a bit hard to find (and expensive). I've actually bought two copies in local Gamestops though (one for me and one for a friend).

If you live in the US and near any Gamestops, your best bet is to use the Gamestop game locator to find a copy at a local store.

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73018

it'll also probably be the best price.


The closest store to me has used copies, but I'd have to drive like 30 miles to get a new one.

Man, you can't even choose the option to keep DQ5 from Gamefly. Nuts!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:13 pm        Reply with quote

Moogs wrote:
The closest store to me has used copies, but I'd have to drive like 30 miles to get a new one.

Man, you can't even choose the option to keep DQ5 from Gamefly. Nuts!


Is used so bad? I don't think I've even seen a new copy in a store :0 how much would Gamefly normally charge for something like that? You wouldn't get a box or anything with that, would you? I've never used Gamefly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:22 pm        Reply with quote

They do send you the box. It's pretty sweet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:36 pm        Reply with quote

LandRoverAttack wrote:
Moogs wrote:
The closest store to me has used copies, but I'd have to drive like 30 miles to get a new one.

Man, you can't even choose the option to keep DQ5 from Gamefly. Nuts!


Is used so bad? I don't think I've even seen a new copy in a store :0 how much would Gamefly normally charge for something like that? You wouldn't get a box or anything with that, would you? I've never used Gamefly.


Used is fine if it's in good condition. I hate when boxes and manuals are all manky, which is often par the course with the majority of the used selection at GameStop. If you even get a box and manual to begin with.


Gamefly is generally pretty good, though. I've purchased games from them that were no more than a month old at about $20 less than the new price. And yeah, they send you the box and manual.
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Dark Age Iron Savior
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:59 am        Reply with quote

If someone installs Half-life via Steam, is there any way (even though illicit third party utilities/piracy) to open the game as if were a pre-Steam release, at which point someone could use something like Hamachi to emulate LAN play and bypass Steam entirely when playing with friends?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:45 pm        Reply with quote

@DAIS: afaik, it's on a game-by-game basis, but this HAS been done by piracy groups with e.g. Half Life 2. not sure if there's a usable app for decompressing .ncf files.

@dongle: I have no idea whether the directory where the ps3 stores gamesaves is visible on the network, but I assume you've seen this thread: http://forums.ngemu.com/pcsx2-forum/108639-memory-card-converter-max-ps2.html ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:45 pm        Reply with quote

ghost_dinosaur wrote:
They do send you the box. It's pretty sweet.


Yeppers. That's how I got my copy of The Red Star.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:10 pm        Reply with quote

Felix wrote:
@dongle: I have no idea whether the directory where the ps3 stores gamesaves is visible on the network, but I assume you've seen this thread: http://forums.ngemu.com/pcsx2-forum/108639-memory-card-converter-max-ps2.html ?


thanks – that got me on the right track to find this thread: http://www.ps3news.com/forums/ps3-guides-tutorials/guide-convert-ps2-game-saves-psv-format-103447.html

so there's still a bit of fuckery with booting a swapmagic and stuff but it's relatively straightforward
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:38 am        Reply with quote

The original Unreal Engine (whatever version of it that is used for Deus Ex) had a dynamic music feature where a MOD (specifically *.IT) file could be treated as if it contained several songs by the game using triggers to tell the song where to loop. This way there could be one IT file for an area, and that theme would contain the theme for walking around, for getting into combat in that area, for talking with people in that area, for dying in that area, etc.

Does Game Maker have the same capability to read MOD files that way?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:08 pm        Reply with quote

Moogs wrote:
LandRoverAttack wrote:
Moogs wrote:
The closest store to me has used copies, but I'd have to drive like 30 miles to get a new one.

Man, you can't even choose the option to keep DQ5 from Gamefly. Nuts!


Is used so bad? I don't think I've even seen a new copy in a store :0 how much would Gamefly normally charge for something like that? You wouldn't get a box or anything with that, would you? I've never used Gamefly.


Used is fine if it's in good condition. I hate when boxes and manuals are all manky, which is often par the course with the majority of the used selection at GameStop. If you even get a box and manual to begin with.


And, just as I feared, the one used copy I managed to find in the area was in a generic case with no instruction manual.

Who the fuck loses/tosses DS cases?!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:15 pm        Reply with quote

Are these Gundemonium games they're advertising on PSN any good?

I was actually thinking about picking up Deathsmiles, but looking at some videos of the later stages it looks like it gets way too ridiculous for my tastes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:25 pm        Reply with quote

idle wrote:
Are these Gundemonium games they're advertising on PSN any good?

I was actually thinking about picking up Deathsmiles, but looking at some videos of the later stages it looks like it gets way too ridiculous for my tastes.

There are 3 difficulties per stage that you can choose from, so chances are that you were watching some jerk play through on maximum difficulty. It's pretty reasonable the whole way through on level 1, based on reports from others.

And yeah, the Gundemonium games rule.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:59 pm        Reply with quote

idle wrote:
Are these Gundemonium games they're advertising on PSN any good?

I was actually thinking about picking up Deathsmiles, but looking at some videos of the later stages it looks like it gets way too ridiculous for my tastes.
Luvcraft posted a link to the PC version a while back. It was Really well done
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:45 pm        Reply with quote

Deets wrote:
There are 3 difficulties per stage that you can choose from, so chances are that you were watching some jerk play through on maximum difficulty. It's pretty reasonable the whole way through on level 1, based on reports from others.

And yeah, the Gundemonium games rule.


I was watching a normal mode playthrough. Granted, it was the final boss, but still, damn.

Maybe I'll check out the Gundemonium stuff sometime then. Thanks, dudes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:47 pm        Reply with quote

Moogs wrote:
Who the fuck loses/tosses DS cases?!


Oddly enough some Gamestops themselves toss out the DS cases so they can shove the carts into that tiny little glass shelf they used for all the other portable games.

It was only easier to get away with when they all came in those flimsy cardboard cases. I made a quick buck dumpster diving for that stuff for some of the completionists nerds some years ago
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:45 am        Reply with quote

Could someone explain the deal with Backbone Entertainment and just what they did apparently wrong (though somewhat outlined in the Belt Scroll Podcast?)

I've seen some PC ports of Genesis games on steam and crap recently. It looks like they were done in house but I haven't a clue really. Looks more likely they might have been pulled from the PS3 compilation but I haven't seen that so any info would be helpful to know!

(mainly going to pick up the Space Harrier 2/Shinobi/Comix Zone because though a fallacy it would be nice to have some sort of legit version after all these years.)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:03 am        Reply with quote

Their ports/emulations are shitty shovelware that offer little or no anemities, display options, historical context, fixes or updates, etc. They're also occasionally broken and are almost always worse than just playing a game via freeware emulation. Go buy a copy off ebay if you want to have "legit version" or whatever, but do not support Backbone Entertainment if you have the option.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:48 am        Reply with quote

ionustron wrote:
Could someone explain the deal with Backbone Entertainment and just what they did apparently wrong (though somewhat outlined in the Belt Scroll Podcast?)

I've seen some PC ports of Genesis games on steam and crap recently. It looks like they were done in house but I haven't a clue really. Looks more likely they might have been pulled from the PS3 compilation but I haven't seen that so any info would be helpful to know!

(mainly going to pick up the Space Harrier 2/Shinobi/Comix Zone because though a fallacy it would be nice to have some sort of legit version after all these years.)

You don't have to feel bad, I own like 3 legit copies of those. I got you covered 8)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:13 pm        Reply with quote

Pijaibros wrote:
Moogs wrote:
Who the fuck loses/tosses DS cases?!


Oddly enough some Gamestops themselves toss out the DS cases so they can shove the carts into that tiny little glass shelf they used for all the other portable games.

It was only easier to get away with when they all came in those flimsy cardboard cases. I made a quick buck dumpster diving for that stuff for some of the completionists nerds some years ago


That doesn't make any sense. The empty boxes get displayed out on the floor, so how would they interfere with the carts being in the glass case? Especially since the majority of the used DS games they have in stock have the actual cases, anyway.

I thought I'd be able to find an empty DQV DS box and manual on ebay. No such luck.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:18 pm        Reply with quote

Also, since I'm already really digging Dragon Quest V and I loved Dragon Quest VIII, should I give Dragon Quest IV a shot?
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