[Rud31]

Let's just all forget about what Drem posted on that last page.
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[Ronnoc]

[Drem]

Wow, Ronnoc. I have no idea what to say to that. Where did that idea even come from?

[Teflon]

[Sniper Honeyviper]

Posting because it seems people never got word about it: There's a Nier demo on the J-XBL Marketplace (and probably the J-PSN as well.)

[tacotaskforce]

Because I am a horrible person I restarted the game after clearing ending A because I didn't want to have all those failed quests in my log. On this playthrough I noticed that the map in Popola's room is blank when you start the game, but is replaced with a world map upon finding Weiss. Is this explained/eluded to later in the game/in Grimoire? I probably don't want to know the actual meaning; I'm just wondering if it is intentional.
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[allensmithee]

I haven't gotten the last 2 endings because I was 360-less for a bit, but I should really get around to doing that. One of the cool things is that 8-4 handled the translation, which is why it is really good (regardless of your thoughts on the changes which were Square-Enix's choices)
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[Tlon]

Why did I pay $40 for this? Still awesome though. Love the Zelda vibe. I'm about halfway through. Enemies are a bit repetative though
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[Teflon]

[allensmithee]

[Sniper Honeyviper]

Tlon is an Aussie.

[allensmithee]

Oh yeah, I had a friend move to Australia a while back, and I'd recommended Nier to him. At the time it was something like 100$, and that surprised me. I guess it has halfed in value now.
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[Tlon]

I had a huge amount of trade in credit, so I was buying things left and right. Still, you can get games for cheap - lowest I've seen is $3 for Sega Superstars Tennis. I could have got i cheaper if I'd waited.

I like it, but I think i'm going to take a break. Powered through about half of it without even stopping to do sidequests.
There's a Let's Play up on the Something Awful forums by the guy who did the Drakengard LP that goes into some background on the weapons
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[Teflon]

[hyouko]

I believe I've got endings B and C. Did I miss something required to get ending A? Was I supposed to take one of the cop-out choices that it offered at halfway point and/or right before the first Devola and Popola fight?

Also: after ending C, it's telling me that I have one more choice available to me if I collect all the weapons in the game. I assume that's worth it, then?

[smartblue]

Endings A and B are locked to happen in that order. The only choice that happens is between getting endings C and D, and the choice is pretty obvious.
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[Teflon]

C and D weren't worth the hassle to me. Nothing changes about the game itself, it's strictly ending cutscene shit (and a brief extra battle). Doing that run back-to-back with my B run didn't help but I didn't want to put it down for a month and get some super-rad ending about some characters I'd half forgotten.

[Sniper Honeyviper]

I hated the demo, but I'm gonna take everyone's word on the full game being amazing. Even Ninja Blade had a shitty demo that wasn't at all reflective of the real experience.

Is it more imperative that I play this or Bullet Witch first? Because the latter is getting kind of expensive!

[Isfet]

uh. hm. kind of two totally different games.

[Sniper Honeyviper]

I dunno, I've always seen shootmans and slashmans as being two peas from the same pod, especially when they're from the same company, and NieR's RPG elements seem rather inconsequential.

I imagine Bullet Witch is really short by comparison, though.

[Drem]

Bullet Witch is a straight up action game, focused completely on fighting dudes in separate, linear stages. Nier paces itself like a story-based adventure game, because it's a story based adventure game.

[Sniper Honeyviper]

Yeah, I know what they're like, I was just hoping someone could tell me which is the more important to play first, judging by overall quality, the impact of the experience, etc. The demo wasn't long or deep enough to really give me a good idea.

I'll probably just get NieR because it's half as expensive and has Amazon Prime shipping.

[BotageL]

[Rud31]

Bullet Witch is getting expensive? hmm.
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[Sniper Honeyviper]

Okay, I guess I'll get NieRrrRrrR and see what all the fuss is about.

Yes Rudie, it seems we've finally entered the era of old, OOP 360 games going up in price! It's not just Atlus PS2 stuff anymore!

[Drem]

You can still buy used copies for under $10 bucks at Gamestop/Amazon, and we all know used games are infused with the love of their previous owners.

[Isfet]

well, i really enjoyed Bullet Witch


but i guess if it came down to "pick one of these two games," i would recommend NieR.

this doesn't mean Bullet Witch isn't worth playing. but it also probably isn't worth more than $30 or $40 (at most).

[Sniper Honeyviper]

[CubaLibre]

[Sniper Honeyviper]

Ah, okay. I guess I'll end up more forgiving of the sub-Zelda combat that plagued the demo, then.

[Sniper Honeyviper]

Glad I waited a little bit to order this, because the 360 version just came down to $12 new on Amazon minutes ago.

I might as well also point out that the game recently got a Platinum Collection/Ultimate Hits reprint in Japan, so I guess it was reasonably successful somewhere!

[analogos]

The "RPG elements" are: fetch quests for the sake of being fetch quests, farming resources so you can buy dozens of identical swords to be allowed to see the endings, and a lot of B Reel throwaway NPC dialogue.

Other than that there's just the sub-Zelda combat. Both aspects have been pretty inconsequential so far (about ten hours in).

I don't mean to just keep coming in here to be negative, but I thought you should probably hear from apparently the only other person who wasn't particularly bowled over by whatever it is this game is supposed to be doing.

[Sniper Honeyviper]

I've read a couple of your posts in this thread, and all your points are valid, but then I remembered that I unabashedly loved Deadly Premonition in spite of all its serious problems and annoyances. Even the fetch quests were painless, with Sigourney's hilarious complaining.

I'm somewhat confident that NieR will have a similar effect. I was able to overlook all the bad stuff in DP without making a conscious effort to do so, because the amazingly good script and setting were enough to carry me through the whole experience.

[tacotaskforce]

Oh yeah, that's something NieR absolutely has going for it. Even the worst quests in the game are redeemed by the incidental dialogue.

Except for Life in the Sands. Nothing could ever redeem Life in the Sands.
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[Rud31]

Also for those that care about trophies the side-quest trophy only requires you do 30 when there are over 60 sidequests.

So that's nice.
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[BotageL]

On the other hand, there's a trophy for growing the rarest flower in the game in your garden. That's a pretty hateful one.
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[boojiboy7]

Man i didn't even find the garden stuff in my first playthrough, ha.

[tacotaskforce]

[Rud31]

that's such an absurd amount of time consumption I don't know why you would go after it.

I'm considering starting a new game to do the 15 hour run.
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[BotageL]

[Tlon]

I've been skipping the sidequests and the upgrading and all that and playing it like a Zelda clone.
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