Batman: The Dark Knight movie thread

DonMarco · graphics fucker Joined: 06 Dec 2006

We need some unfounded and random speculations!!

Superman cameo!!
Batmobile will transform into giant robot!!
Batman will have his hand cut off at the end and replaced with bionic one!!
Joker will barely be in the movie at all!!
No one dies again!!

Also, if Kevin Smith named his daughter after her, it must mean something right?
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108 · Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:12 am

it must mean that he has some problems growing up

and also writing dialogue

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slipstream · hates LOTR films Joined: 05 Dec 2006

Arkham Asylum would make a more interesting movie, but it will never happen.
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Dracko · a sapphist fool Joined: 06 Dec 2006

Not enough Harley love in this thread.
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internisus · shafer sephiroth Joined: 04 Dec 2006

I'm quite sweet on Harley throughout TAS.

Anyway, I've gone off on this before, but I fucking love Batman Begins. The prominence and depth of the film's themes separated it immediately from any other superhero movie, and the ideas of Bruce's fear and guilt tangibly wrapped around each other to produce a believable and compelling origin story that stayed true to the psychology and despair of Batman in TAS (See "I Am the Night" for a good example). Furthermore, the distinctive style of the score paints all of this in such an intense mood. It all came together in one of the most cohesive and powerful movies I've seen in some time.

I don't know much of anything about the next one. However, it's my understanding that the same writer and director are behind it, so suffice it to say that I have high expectations after Begins.

I do wish they'd drop "Batman" from the title and let it stand as The Dark Knight. That'd be sweet.

Maztorre · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Ireland

internisus · shafer sephiroth Joined: 04 Dec 2006

I was reading the wikipedia article on the film and I have two notes: According to Nolan back in '06, the title actually will be The Dark Knight. He explains why he thinks it works since this is his reenvisioning of the film franchise, and the article author mentions that this will be the first live-action Batman film without the Batman name in the title.

Secondly, there is much preliminary emphasis on the Joker's eyes, downplaying his mouth. It's all about his burning, hateful eyes. Just judging from the spirit of Begins, I am sure that they will take the Joker in a very new direction.

I'm a little unnerved by the fact that they will be replacing Katie Holmes for the Rachel Dawes character. Isn't that going to feel odd for someone in the future (me) watching the whole trilogy? And I like Maggie Gyllenhal a lot, don't get me wrong, and I understand that Holmes left them no choice. I'm just worried about consistency.

I wonder about the thematic quality for this upcoming movie. It's supposedly about "escalation", things getting worse before they get better, and that doesn't sound as... definite as the first movie's themes.

No mention of Harley that I saw. =(

Wall of Beef · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Fart Beach

Why isn't holmes going to be in the new movie?

Also, Maggie Gyllenhal is a better actress.
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internisus · shafer sephiroth Joined: 04 Dec 2006

"scheduling conflicts"

and yes, she is

but still, consistency

DonMarco · graphics fucker Joined: 06 Dec 2006

Predator Goose · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Location: Oversensitive Pedantic Ninny

I thought that Holmes really brought down the first movie, so I'm not sad to see her go, even for consistency's sake.

However, I'm really not looking forward to Heath Ledger as the Joker. That just screams all kinds of bad to me. I was definitely a fan of Nicholson's Joker.
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Maztorre · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Ireland

Nicholson's Joker certainly suited Burton's film, but I think Ledger as the Joker is a good sign of how they're going for character rather than caricature.

Batman Begins is my favourite superhero film guys.

108 · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:54 am

falsedan · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: San Francisco

I didn't know I had such frothing demand for this movie until now. No Katie Holmes hurrar! Heath Ledger acting also hurrah!

Harley <3
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Dracko · a sapphist fool Joined: 06 Dec 2006

The thing is about the Joker, one of the best things, actually, is that he's a versatile character: You can write him in so many different ways, because he's a character in constant flux and utterly insane. He can be a completely hyperactive jester, of almost relative harmlessness, a deadly, demented clown, like in the first Batman movie and the animated series, or the most sadistic and twisted slaughterer ever.
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Predator Goose · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Location: Oversensitive Pedantic Ninny

When I think of the Joker, I think of the caricature. He's balls to the wall insane, not a supervillain. That's the kind of character I think of when I think the Joker, and I think that Nicholson really pulled it off well. I doubt Ledger could pull such an act off, though it's possible that they're not going that direction with the Joker - which I would be equally unhappy about.
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Zebadayus · pelvis othello Joined: 05 Dec 2006

Heath Ledger? Seriously?

I thought they were going with that other guy from A Knight's Tale.

What was his name... Paul Bettany, that was it. He would've made a teriffic Joker.

Heath is a fine actor, though. I'm sure he can pull it off.

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Rucio · Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: oh HIGH oh

Oh man, Hamil would have that down! I mean, his animated Joker is definitive for me.

Mask of the Phantasm was such a strange movie that I didn't even get it until a few years ago, when I found it sitting in a condo we'd rented at the beach.

I mean, does the Joker die at the end of it? I never understood that. Perhaps that's the point.

Seconding the whole liking Nicholson but hating his Joker. Seriously they had him in flesh toned paint for half the movie anyways.

I like Batman Begins because it loses the whole campy aspect of the other live action movies.

The 1960s Batman movie is all the camp the series will ever need. By the way, that movie counts.

Edit lol: I am picturing Heath Ledger in Joker makeup. He seems quite damn capable. He's even got the right narrow head shape. Nicholson did not.
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