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boojiboy7
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:29 pm        Reply with quote

firenze wrote:
Predator Goose wrote:
Because it's really hard to put up with the complexity of SC, and the memorization it requires, to play with people who live and breathe these games.


This is fair enough. But really, you don't have to play with people who live and breathe the games. You can play with other non-serious players. Just like Street Fighter.


I think part of the problem Goose has, and one that I share, is that finding people who play Starcraft but aren't OMFG SERIOUS about it is actually pretty hard.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:36 pm        Reply with quote

I think analogos hit it on the head for me really.

It's not that I would mind playing Starcraft competitively, or getting some co-operative action going (really, the best times I have had in RTS game have been being on a team with someone), but it is the "unfriendliness" of learning how to play the game online that annoys me. I think it might be the online thing, really, but even when I have played the original or Warcraft 3 at LANs, the people who play the games just expect you to know Protoss development tress and such, and seem to get offended when you don't. This has the effect of putting new players on the defensive, which makes them not really want to play your game.

This is different in the fighting game community. Whenever I've been in a fighting game crowd, even the super serious SRK dudes, people are constantly offering tips to each other. "Oh, maybe you should've tried an XYZ" or whatever. Granted, this isn't in a tournament, but in just casual play. Still, fighter players seem interested in getting other players good.

Maybe it has something to do with the interactions between players being more immediate in fighting games, or in the way that a "comeback" is much more viable in fighting games. Fighting games make you feel better immediately for beating a skilled opponent, if in no other way than making that fight look more interesting. And a fighter with nearly no health is still able to do as much damage as a fighter with full health (except obviously in games like Bushido). Contrast to Starcraft where, for the most part, once your base is pretty fucked, you're done.

Perhaps it also has to do with win conditions as well. Win conditions and timing. Winning in a fighting game is a matter of depleting that bar. And it happens quick as hell. While wins can be quick in Starcraft, they can also be slow as hell, and most often consist of total domination. Spending an hour of your life to only end in complete defeat and destruction can feel really defeating, especially when the guy on the other end is a faceless, non-talking drone. The affect of this on early player mentality could be understandably devastating.

I don't know. These are just quick thoughts. As it is, I will probably play the single player campaign at some point, but probably not bother with much multiplayer, unless I find a group that is willing to actually talk about it openly, which has been the problem in the past.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:32 pm        Reply with quote

I've heard it runs on more than you'd think, but no clue on specifics.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:19 pm        Reply with quote

Broco wrote:
I like the first 40 seconds. It's a chance to breathe, get emotionally ready and think about your intention for the game (a battle plan, or an area you'd like to focus on improving your skills at).


Yeah I like this. It is a calm before the storm, a chance to mentally make any notes on what you are going at, a chance to maybe check the area around you if you feel like it, and get ready to blitz.
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