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alice
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:28 pm        Reply with quote

Deus, seriously, you'll love paranoia agent. It's basically the serialized version of paprika with a kid and a bat instead of a fugly old guy who can't walk.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:28 pm        Reply with quote

Meanwhile Gurren-Lagann (now at episode 21) continues to build up its awesomeness.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:53 pm        Reply with quote

Currently hitting up...



After Touran posted...



I've finished 8 episodes so far. Feelings are:
Damn it, 14 year old girls who are taller than boys and developed like they're 16+.
Damn it, unyielding engrish, both spoken and sung.
Damn it, don't make me switch to the dub, oh god this is brutal.
Damn it, there's a long and uncomfortable sub-plot about the main character being bullied.
Damn it, stop singing ~hoooooor moooon sweii~

I will continue watching to the end, but it's not gonna get in my top ten or anything.

Next up on my queue:
AMV Hell: Movie
Planetes
Paranoia Agent
Gurren-Lagann (when it's complete)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:09 am        Reply with quote

I watched Excel Saga last week. I do not have much love for anime, but that was kind of fun--I caught a lot of references even without having seen the original works.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:16 am        Reply with quote

Saw my first episode of Excel Saga last night, coincidentally. Didn't like it much. It's snappy and wacky and intense and whatever, yet also it lacked anything for me to grow fond of.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:19 am        Reply with quote

Psiga Beck isn't a very good anime at all.

It's a great manga, I think. It's just a bad idea to adapt it to a format with sound for... obvious reasons. Plus they try to fit the entire next major plot arc into the last episode with a really crappy gimmick. :(

Also, I don't see Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei on that list!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:21 am        Reply with quote

Yeah, I can't say I found the first couple episodes very engaging, either. I'd have probably dropped it myself if I'd had anything better to do at the time, but like the other shows I've convinced myself to watch, it got a lot better the closer I got to the end.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:44 am        Reply with quote

psiga wrote:
Saw my first episode of Excel Saga last night, coincidentally. Didn't like it much. It's snappy and wacky and intense and whatever, yet also it lacked anything for me to grow fond of.

Yeah, that's what I thought of it after a few episodes. It kinda felt like browsing the internet. It's irreverent enough to not be stupid, but it's also irreverent enough to be boring.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:06 am        Reply with quote

I'm listening to the Mushishi soundtracks and realizing.....

why I like Trace Memory.

kael wrote:
I have seen lots of animes that I enjoyed mentioned so far in this thread and a few that I will probably have to check out... is it my imagination or has nobody mentioned Read or Die yet? It's one of my personal favorites, though I imagine that might just because I'm a sheltered american with horrible taste.

I recently watched Jin-Roh at a friend's house and was fairly impressed. I didn't see any mention of this one in the thread either and recommend it strongly if you are in the mood for a bad time. The ending made me very angry! KAEL SMASH.

Also reiterating previous recommendations of Anything By Satoshi Kon, along with Here and There Now and Then if you're in the mood for an anime that kicks you in the throat and then proceeds to rape your childhood.


I swear I responded to this post the other day and said good things about RoD and Jin-Roh, but the post seems to be missing and it's throwing off my sense of reality.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:13 am        Reply with quote

I just watched perfect blue today and then remembered that I rented the perfect blue VHS from the library back when I was 13 and almost watched it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:11 am        Reply with quote

alice wrote:
I just watched perfect blue today and then remembered that I rented the perfect blue VHS from the library back when I was 13 and almost watched it.


You had a really cool library
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:47 am        Reply with quote

Why aren't you bitches watching Gurren Lagann, it's like the best anime ever made ever.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:09 pm        Reply with quote

'Cause the first few episodes are so horrifically hard to find with ENGLISH subs. I figure I'll wait until the season is complete before downloading the entire thing.

And then my giant robot quota of this year will be filled.

In the meantime, I'm attempting to keep up with Dennou Coil.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:24 pm        Reply with quote

BECK managed to lose me on episode 12. I'm gonna drop it. Sneer-inducing FYAD plot progressions backing up like a traffic jam.

Gonna start grabbing Planetes, soon as I find a good source.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:28 pm        Reply with quote

you can very easily get gurren lagann using stage6.divx.com's download feature. they don't have episode 15, though. grr.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:41 pm        Reply with quote

There's a batch torrent of Gurren Lagann 1-13 floating around!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:59 pm        Reply with quote

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Why aren't you bitches watching Gurren Lagann, it's like the best epic thing with drills ever made ever.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:12 pm        Reply with quote

i caught up on so long, mr despair the other day. this is like an intelligent, beautiful, superflat(ish) excel saga! the pace is so goddamned fast, yet not so fast that it's easy to get tripped up in all the jokes and references flying at you.

the newer girls are fantastic (is hikkikiomori girl a 4chan meme yet?) and naming a hopelessly optimistic character after franz kafka rubs me the right way.

is the rest of this director's output this fantastic?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:09 pm        Reply with quote

psiga wrote:
Damn it, 14 year old girls who are taller than boys and developed like they're 16+.


Yeah maybe you were home-schooled or something though uh yeah fourteen-year-old girls are generally taller than boys as they reach their growth spurts much faster.

psiga wrote:
Damn it, stop singing ~hoooooor moooon sweii~


Yeah I don't know -- I (and many thousands of other people, apparently!) think that Kazuya Hirabayashi's Engrish is, like, something of an art. See here for an example.

His new band Fine Lines -- he was only the alternate lead-guitar / vocal for Husking Bee -- is probably the Best Emo Band That Will Ever Exist. He's a hell of a singer.

The Beck anime, though, yeah. It's pretty bad, even though some of the music is pretty fuckin' good. It's kind of amazing that one guy wrote all of the songs for all of the bands. That one guy, of course, is Tooru Hidaka, mastermind of Beat Crusaders.

Because of some, uh, work I did for the manga, the Japanese publisher sent me a full set of the DVDs, and two "MONGOLIAN CHOP SQUAD" "concert" T-shirts (one white, one black) designed by Harold Sakuishi (the manga artist).

The manga continues to this day! I think the main character is, like, 23 years old, now. They're still not world-famous, which is kind of interesting and appreciated.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:28 pm        Reply with quote

SplashBeats wrote:
i caught up on so long, mr despair the other day. this is like an intelligent, beautiful, superflat(ish) excel saga! the pace is so goddamned fast, yet not so fast that it's easy to get tripped up in all the jokes and references flying at you.

the newer girls are fantastic (is hikkikiomori girl a 4chan meme yet?) and naming a hopelessly optimistic character after franz kafka rubs me the right way.

is the rest of this director's output this fantastic?


So Long, Mr. Despair is definitely a refinement of the director's technique. He tried a very similar style with Negima!? but I lost interest in that series pretty quickly; the source material didn't lend itself to the mania of his directing as well as with Mr. Despair.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:34 pm        Reply with quote

108 wrote:
(BECK stuff)

Right, right, before I gave up on the series, the main character had a growth spurt and caught up with the girls. They even specifically mentioned that he'd grown. Guess I just had my own growth spurts sooner, is all. lawl, late-blooming japonaise protagonist :(

As for the art of whassisname's engrish, I promise that it was just the execution that got to me. Every time the voice talent switched to english, their ability to convey lines with acted spontaneity fell flat. Which I feel conflicted about, since on one hand they sound like shitty young third-rate amateurs singing broken english, and on the other hand they are supposed to be shitty young third-rate amateurs singing broken english.

Congrats on conveying that so well, maybe?

Still, it wasn't the singing that broke me.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:24 pm        Reply with quote

dudes there is a new raki*suta out right now but i wish afk would hurry up with their releases!

screw the haters!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:49 pm        Reply with quote

haircute wrote:
dudes there is a new raki*suta out right now but i wish afk would hurry up with their releases!

screw the haters!

Guerrand is ok! Watching it right now!

Edit: Ah yeah, just remembered, just no subs on the OP though...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:02 pm        Reply with quote

G. wrote:
haircute wrote:
dudes there is a new raki*suta out right now but i wish afk would hurry up with their releases!

screw the haters!

Guerrand is ok! Watching it right now!

Edit: Ah yeah, just remembered, just no subs on the OP though...


yeah, guerrand isn't bad at all but I just like to stay with one group from beginning to end.

also: im sure a million people have bitched about this but i really really want fansubbers to use those big yellow type letters or big white ones. im sick of these cute little pink fonts they use. galaxy angel was the worst offender back in the day. i think my old love hina subs had some decent text but who cares about that silly show these days?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:52 am        Reply with quote

I like the subs they used to have on old grainy black and white foreign movies.
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haircute wrote:
G. wrote:
haircute wrote:
dudes there is a new raki*suta out right now but i wish afk would hurry up with their releases!

screw the haters!

Guerrand is ok! Watching it right now!

Edit: Ah yeah, just remembered, just no subs on the OP though...


yeah, guerrand isn't bad at all but I just like to stay with one group from beginning to end.

also: im sure a million people have bitched about this but i really really want fansubbers to use those big yellow type letters or big white ones. im sick of these cute little pink fonts they use. galaxy angel was the worst offender back in the day. i think my old love hina subs had some decent text but who cares about that silly show these days?


i like the multicolored subs on shows with a lot of fast dialogue. if color-coded for each character properly, it makes things a lot easier to follow.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:50 pm        Reply with quote

Gurren Lagann just keeps getting better and better.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:48 pm        Reply with quote

108 wrote:

Yeah maybe you were home-schooled or something though uh yeah fourteen-year-old girls are generally taller than boys as they reach their growth spurts much faster.

Not to mention that it's anime convention for any girl who is 14+ to look like 20 year hotties -- with boobs!!
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SplashBeats wrote:
haircute wrote:
G. wrote:
haircute wrote:
dudes there is a new raki*suta out right now but i wish afk would hurry up with their releases!

screw the haters!

Guerrand is ok! Watching it right now!

Edit: Ah yeah, just remembered, just no subs on the OP though...


yeah, guerrand isn't bad at all but I just like to stay with one group from beginning to end.

also: im sure a million people have bitched about this but i really really want fansubbers to use those big yellow type letters or big white ones. im sick of these cute little pink fonts they use. galaxy angel was the worst offender back in the day. i think my old love hina subs had some decent text but who cares about that silly show these days?


i like the multicolored subs on shows with a lot of fast dialogue. if color-coded for each character properly, it makes things a lot easier to follow.


i wouldnt mind them if they made them easier for me to read. like...keep them color coded i guess since my biggest problem is they're usually kind of small and my eyesight sucks
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:28 pm        Reply with quote

wasted potential wrote:
108 wrote:

Yeah maybe you were home-schooled or something though uh yeah fourteen-year-old girls are generally taller than boys as they reach their growth spurts much faster.

Not to mention that it's anime convention for any girl who is 14+ to look like 20 year hotties -- with boobs!!

I'll admit that I heavily compared this series to FLCL, which has characters that look their age. BECK is just like, "WE ARE GONNA BREAK THE MOLD AND DO SOMETHING SPECIAL WELL NOT REALLY HA HA WE MIGHT GET IT HALF RIGHT THOUGH."

Anyway: I watched a big chunk of AMV Hell: Movie 1 last night, and it kinda lost my interest. All of the genuinely good clips could've been edited together into a more reasonably-sized video.

About to start watching PlanetES, after I make the interweb rounds.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:39 pm        Reply with quote

psiga wrote:
Anyway: I watched a big chunk of AMV Hell: Movie 1 last night, and it kinda lost my interest. All of the genuinely good clips could've been edited together into a more reasonably-sized video.

AMV Hell does an excellent job of proving its own point - that most "clever" AMV gags wear themselves thin very quickly.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:53 pm        Reply with quote

wasted potential wrote:
108 wrote:

Yeah maybe you were home-schooled or something though uh yeah fourteen-year-old girls are generally taller than boys as they reach their growth spurts much faster.

Not to mention that it's anime convention for any girl who is 14+ to look like 20 year hotties -- with boobs!!


I don't know, I've hit on girls here in Japan, before, thinking they were 20+, only to find out that they were 15, 16, or, one soul-crushing time, 13.

So yeah.
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ALL RESPECT LOST
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Hm. Two eps into PlanetES, kinda iffy on it. I like that it's hard sci, rather than just wacky future. But going the hard sci route means exposing the fictional setting to the relentless forward motion of real-world progress. This story is taking modern day potential and extrapolating it 70-ish years into the future, rather than even try to comprehend how different everything will be by 2075.

Which I'd look past if the character interactions were more interesting. They're only moderately interesting so far. 25 minute episodes feel longer than 25 minutes, not so much in a good way.

Also, I am slightly pissed at how difficult it has been to find a good version of this show. At first I got a widescreen version, but it was spanish dub with italian subs. Now I find a japanese dub with english sub, but it's fullscreen with network logos and tickertapes.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:49 am        Reply with quote

I give up.


Two and two-thirds episodes in, I am sick of the main character's constant morally-biased prattling. Among other things.

Am I just not in an anime mood lately, or what?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:44 am        Reply with quote

wasted potential wrote:
108 wrote:

Yeah maybe you were home-schooled or something though uh yeah fourteen-year-old girls are generally taller than boys as they reach their growth spurts much faster.

Not to mention that it's anime convention for any girl who is 14+ to look like 20 year hotties -- with boobs!!


Don't you mean it's convention of 20+ year old hotties to look like 14 year old girls...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:50 am        Reply with quote

Unless you really like the "YUU COPII?" "AI COPII-DESU!", don't watch the PlanetES anime. Manga is better, because it's not anime. At least, in this case.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:47 am        Reply with quote

Compared to BECK, the engrish in PlanetES is tame like a toothless kitten on dope. It's mostly that I'm sick of the main character girl who, at least twice every episode, bursts out with something like WHAT!! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!!! THAT IS DISRESPECTFUL OF HUMAN LOVE AND ENDEAVOR!!!!! WHY ARE YOU SO HEARTLESS!!!!!!!?!? I KNOW THAT I'M NEW BUT THAT IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT YOU INTEND TO DO!!!!!!! YOU SHOULD NOT DO THAT!!!!

Add to this more bullshit stories.

They ACCIDENTALLY push a piece of sentimental space debris into the path of a civilian shuttle which COINCIDENTALLY happens to be piloted by a good friend. Exactly how this accidentally happens is stupid, and pisses me off, but I won't mention it, since I'm even more pissed off by the deus-ex-machina coincidence. The thing is, they know the EXACT trajectory of the shuttle and the debris, and there are minutes before any possible collision. The shuttle has time to put up some impact bumpers, but they never consider to just nudge the shuttle's trajectory up a little. The fact that they don't just move the shuttle a weeeeeee bit so that it will not hit the debris is ludicrous. A major, life-threatening, only-have-one-chance-omg endeavor is undertaken to nudge the debris off its course. Success is guaranteed, though, because they're only like three episodes in, so nobody important can die yet.

This fuck-you-stupid plot is immediately followed up by them being tasked to nab a piece of debris which happens to be a casket buried in space. They retrieve the casket, making very obvious note that the body appears to look like it's laughing. Okay. They contact the next-of-kin to decide what to do with the body. The daughter asks, gun-on-mantel, what expression is on her father's face. For you see, she dared not look at his face the last time she was by his side! She wants to know his expression! This is important, you see!

They tell her that he was laughing. She says that she understands. She says that he always adored space, so much so that he hardly spent time with his family. Was dedicated fully to his job as a pioneering astronaut, and burial in space was his final request. She says to please relaunch his casket into space, as he wished. So far I am liking this plot enough to forget about the first stupid plot.

Cue the girl:
WHAT!!!!!!! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!!!!! HOW COULD YOU SEND YOUR FATHER INTO SPACE!!!!!!!!!?!? A FATHER IS IMPORTANT!!!!! HE SHOULD BE NEAR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
...and I stopped the video before she was done ranting.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:44 pm        Reply with quote

This question is actually for Mr. 1^1·2^2·3^3 or someone that is reading manga in their original untranslated form.

As a somewhat related topic, how about throwing some recommendations about manga? My personal and admitedly not quite representative list of flexible requirements is:

  • The purpose is putting my effort to something practical, i.e. trying to read some Japanese, at which I still suck, but anyway. I would be using a dictionary of course, but if it does not deal with quantum physics, all the better.
  • Given the prior requisite, I put up with the story simply not sucking.
  • If the story actually leads somewhere, instead of the thing having 400 pointless volumes, even greater.
  • Preferably something not too new that I can easily find second hand in a Book Off or something
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:46 pm        Reply with quote

a friend gave me all of martian successor nadesico on tape, and it's awesome.
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This looks promising.
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