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glossolalia
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| psiga wrote: |
Mushishi (26 episodes)
Story of a one-eyed man who wanders ancient Japan, helping people overcome challenges caused by ghost-like bugs which often manifest themselves in very curious ways. Extremely elegant series.
Kemonozume (13 episodes, available in HD)
Multi-generational clan of samurai/ninja like warriors who secretly protect the world from a race of people-eating demons. These demons look like normal folk until sufficiently aroused (in one way or another). The show is a swirling angular tornado of guts and shit and titties. |
damn, i came in here specifically to ask about/recommend these and mind game and i've been beaten to em by over a year! i didn't ever want mushishi to end. great animation, totally unpredictable plotlines, and probably the only anime that made me care about the incidental characters.
i'm watching ghost hound again but i'm not really into it, character designs are garbage and the atmosphere is nicely lain-ish but the story is lacking. dennou coil was another disappointment - the animation was unusually nice, but watching those kids talk in code for 23 minutes at a time got really fucking dull. has there been anything good since then? when is genius party going to dvd? |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:38 pm |
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| Gin wrote: |
| I like that the character designs are realistic. |
whaaa? they look like ben 10 fanart or something! and it really bugs me that the dad has no nose, whatsoever, not even in profile.
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| I am always baked every single time I watch it |
oh, alright then.
the flashback scenes with the dead sister are really pretty, i will admit. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:27 pm |
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| a friend of mine keeps recommending patlabor but i was reluctant to check it out because gits leaves me so cold in its grim, procedural determination. maybe i'll give it a shot now. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:47 pm |
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| negativedge wrote: |
| If I were to come into this thread and ask for a short list of worthwhile anime released in the last five years, what would you all give me? |
stuff i would say is must-see: mushishi, mind game, the girl who leapt through time
recommended with various reservations: tekkon kinkreet, kino no tabi, kemonozume, paprika, howl's moving castle |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:07 am |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:19 pm |
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glossolalia
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:27 pm |
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watched the first two episodes of mnemosyne this morning, very meh
dammit somebody sub kaiba already i'm getting restless
ponyo on the cliff trailer is coming out in jp theaters today, i'm sure someone will bootleg it soon |
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glossolalia
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:08 pm |
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| km wrote: |
I don't feel embarrassed to be an Eva fan any more!
...Also, Rei nipples. |
hmm |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:35 pm |
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| km wrote: |
| Well, it's not like she just flashes her tits, you just happen to actually see them in the scene where Shinji trips and falls on her. Real movies can have boobs too :/ |
as long as the next movie doesn't rehash the hot spring scene from magma diver |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:16 am |
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| km wrote: |
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| It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to be put off by or dismissive of sexuality in characters who are younger than 18 just because they are younger than 18--and off-putting is certainly part of what both of those examples were going for anyway. |
I think this should be fairly obvious, particularly since we're in the realm of anime, which has a bit of a history pandering the hyper sexuality of underage girls to a rather hopeless demographic niche. See, moe.
Eva does, at times, handle sexuality well and with purpose, but this is not one of those times. It put in a typical HO HO I FELL AND GRABBED YOUR BREAST /BLUSH harem anime moment into a show where it does not fit. This is one of Eva's problems as I see it; it sometimes goes out of it's way to bend itself around inane anime tropes. I don't entirely blame this on the show because I know Anno was in many ways directed to "anime it up" (he didn't even want the show to originally be about giant robots at all, as I recall), but things like mishaps with Rei's tits, a fluffy penguin that lives in a fridge and drunk Misato slapstick are borderline painful and probably should have been edited out of this condensed movie version.
As for Broken Flower, whatever, I haven't seen the movie since it came out in theatres. I at least remember getting the impression that the daughter was close to her mother and was willing to go a little too far to help her out. |
I don't get that impression from the scene anymore. When I first saw it when I was like 13, I was like zomg boobs yay, but now it's different. Looking back on the series, and watching the events surrounding it in the scene I get a much darker impression of what's going on. Rei seems a whole lot creepier than before. What 15 year old girl would be more concerned about putting a cracked pair of glasses back in a case than the guy who just broke into her house, messed with her stuff, and groped her? She never tells him to get out or even stop looking. Later, she slaps Shinji when he complains that Gendo, who wore the glasses, is a bad father.
I think it sets Rei up as someone who is really creepy, and solidifies the strong link between Rei and Gendo for the viewer then brings it to light for Shinji. |
i totally agree with this, and was j/k with my previous comment. that scene is cut from a completely different cloth than the ecchi "lols i touched your boobs" type stuff.
the end scene of magma diver, on the other hand... unforgivable. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:02 am |
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internisus,
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| Assistant director Kazuya Tsurumaki said that they originally used Christian symbolism only to give the project a unique edge against other giant robot shows, and that it had no particular meaning |
i thought this was common knowledge among eva fans |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:02 am |
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i skimmed a lot of what has been said but
i prefer the movie ending if only for all the fireworks and, more importantly, the scene where shinji as a child plays in the sand, which beats out all the talky shit in the tv ending for expressing the essence of his character |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:04 am |
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not as good as the first, but that's always the way it always works, right? still really good stuff, and i have no idea where it's going
i think they tried too hard to bring people up to speed if they hadn't seen the first episode |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:49 pm |
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i was feeling that way after ghost hound and dennou coil disappointed but kaiba has me all enthusiastic about the anime again, kinda
btw counting on gainax alone for good anime would seem terribly depressing in this day and age
i need to watch the hd rip of wings of honneamise i downloaded |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:34 pm |
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Real Drive was horrendous, i couldn't even make it through the first episode
the animation was about on par with a satoshi kon movie but everything else about the art and story was puuuke |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:00 am |
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| alice wrote: |
| It's really not too fair to label his stuff as anime even though it is. |
oh come on this is the lamest fucking sentiment
also the stuffed animal body looks nothing like pedobear |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:39 am |
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i like angel's egg
and they absolutely are fucking anime god jesus christ come on what did we just say
yuasa's stuff is anime, studio ghibli movies are anime, angel's egg is anime, midori is anime, the belladonna of sadness is anime
it doesn't matter how "deep" or "artsy" or different it is, it's anime
why do people feel the need to pretend the term (as a western colloquialism) means anything other than japanese cel and cg animation |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:52 pm |
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| don marco why did you spend so much time on a bafflingly out-of-context interpretation of that statement |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:35 pm |
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lain is pretty cool looking
also the recap episode is a pretty awful place to start |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:33 pm |
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| spinach wrote: |
| glossolalia wrote: |
i like angel's egg
and they absolutely are fucking anime god jesus christ come on what did we just say
yuasa's stuff is anime, studio ghibli movies are anime, angel's egg is anime, midori is anime, the belladonna of sadness is anime
it doesn't matter how "deep" or "artsy" or different it is, it's anime
why do people feel the need to pretend the term (as a western colloquialism) means anything other than japanese cel and cg animation |
it's a japanese term for animation
Popeye is anime
Loony Toons is anime
Lion King is anime
animation holmes |
i know that's the literal japanese meaning, which is why i added "(as a western colloquialism)"
i was criticizing the use of the term to mean something even more specific that excludes various things-that-are-obviously-japanese-cartoons for some percieved quality
was my post really that hard to understand |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:35 am |
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i love the way the landscapes look in lain
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:08 pm |
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it's pretty loosely based, more of a sequel/reimagining a la, say, The New Karate Kid
much better than that though |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:51 am |
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the non-let's-show-kids-getting-the-shit-beat-out-of-them parts of NTHT are just a mediocre kids' sci-fi adventure show, so the parts that try to be brutal and moving felt exploitative and forced to me.
i think the characterization in grave of the fireflies is more nuanced than you're giving it credit for, psiga. i wouldn't say the girl was too happy at all; sure, she likes candy, but the titular reverie is undone when she shoves aside her brothers' attempt at intimacy, and she seems pretty shaken a lot of the time. and the boy was always trying to be tough so as not to let her down (and possibly to cover his own grief in the process.) he's not meant to be a completely sympathetic character, either; his pride and naivete is ultimately what seals both of their fates, and according to takahata this was a swipe at the modern japanese mindset (that went largely unnoticed, natch.) |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:52 pm |
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| well if you're gonna accuse ghibli movies of fanservice then there really is nothing to talk about. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:56 am |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:15 pm |
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| i started but the animation was so laughably rough and the soundtrack so painful and besides all that it seemed interesting mostly as a test run for the much better laputa. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:06 pm |
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| i do like chrono trigger. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:15 am |
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| it wasn't all that unexpected, but that didn't make it any more watchable. the problem is that he was trying to do this ambitious, relatively full proto-ghibli-style animation on a speed racer budget. i found it hard to invest in the characters when they often moved so goddamn goofy. but maybe i'll give it another chance, if i can find the dvds i burned it to. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:25 am |
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| i really wish kaiba was a full season, there are so many possibilities for the world they've constructed that aren't going to happen. i fear it's going to go kemonozume and turn into a standard action show in the last few episodes for the sake of resolving the plot. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:30 pm |
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did you see the girl who leapt through time yet?
night on the galactic railroad had some problems but also some real moments of wonder, at least as i recall.
haibane renmei conjured up a world both ethereal and homey, but on trying to rewatch it recently the production values left a lot to be desired.
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:41 am |
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holy shit psiga spoiler alert on haibaine renmei!
mushishi is fantastic. hands down the most consistently good anime series i've seen. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:59 am |
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well it's not like you gave away the ending but it would be much more enjoyable to realize that on one's own, no
i mean it seems so obvious now but the last bit of what you said doesn't come into play at all until the second half |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:36 am |
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haibane renmei gets a lot more interesting after the first four or five episodes.
only yesterday is a highly pleasant character study with unusually fluid facial expressions for the time and a lot of style in the flashback scenes. not as good as fireflies, but definitely worth watching.
i guess takahata's making another movie, but considering his career's been a steady downward slope from greatness to mediocrity i don't have much hope for it. i'd love to see his world masterpiece theater work, but it's nowhere to be found on the internet, at least the last time i searched. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:51 am |
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like back to the future or groundhog day, the girl who leapt through time is more a film to be felt and/or appreciated for its technical mastery of crowd-pleasing storytelling, not picked apart for implausibilities.
besides the dumbest part of it is
Spoiler
the guy went back in time just to see that stupid painting? laaaaaame |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:55 am |
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it seems like primer needs to be watched two or three times to make any sense at all, and that was more primer than i felt like watching.
it was remarkably stylish for a team of total amateurs with a budget of $4000, though.
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:07 am |
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| it isn't vitiatiated at all; by tying him into the story's catalyst, exposing the protagonist's flaws most sharply, and allowing him a disappearing act, it made the ending far more poignant. as jarring as the inital revelation was, i can't think of a more touching conclusion for it than the one it's got, whatever gymnastics were required to get there, even if as admitted the details didn't have to be quite so outlandish. i'm probably not making any sense. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:15 am |
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exactly. the time travel is a means to an end to explore other, i would argue more interesting, things. more groundhog day than back to the future, then.
i'm sure we've discussed this, but tekkon kinkreet would've benefited from more focus. get rid of one antagonist and the gangster subplot and you'd have yourself a very nice movie. the minotaur scene and the sequences that simulated 3d camera movement were eye-candy-of-the-decade stuff. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:56 pm |
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i wouldn't put him in the same category as kinkade, a shameless one-note hack with a a tenuous grasp on basic construction. inoue's work is pretty impressive, the fantasy stuff a more gentle, impressionistic, and tasteful take on 60s/70s utopian cheese, which brings him in pretty close in line with some of the ghibli aesthetic.
but yeah, the ova was a really stupid idea. |
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glossolalia
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:53 pm |
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i think the movie hits the perfect mix of the fantastic and the mundane. spirited away devotes a lot of time and effort to all these little interactions that reveal the internal logic of its creatures and their world, which is impressive but also tiring and ultimately a bit hollow. i found it easy to accept totoro and gang as the enigmas they're meant to be, and also appreciate the more down-to-earth charm of the girls and their father (HOLY SHIT DID U KNOW IT'S THE EARTHBOUND GUY). at least tell me you liked the waiting-for-the-bus scene.
besides, as character designs go i like the totoros and catbus way way better than anything in spirited away. come to think of it i really wouldn't care to look at anybody in spirited away out of context. |
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