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spinach
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| This is a beefy thread. I did not read it all. I will suggest you watch Dead Leaves, because it is a ninety-minute action flick that has been packed into fifty minutes without leaving anything out. It's punk rock with a pencil. |
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spinach
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:00 pm |
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| Internetics wrote: |
| And an anime movie is the #1 movie in america, yay! I didn't see it, but I heard okay things about it. I'd rather have The Lorax given another movie, but with a darker edge than even the book had. |
A) which one?
B) why is this making you so happy? |
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spinach
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:23 pm |
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| DonMarco wrote: |
| spinach wrote: |
| B) why is this making you so happy? |
I'm a big fan of animation, and consider it the true American art form. Jazz can fuck off. It's all about animation. And the more animated movies earn in the box office, the more will be green-lighted down the road. |
This still happens, and if it doesn't, that does not stop animators from animating. Nor does it put money into the pockets of my animator friends who would like to do something other than anthropomorphic musicals (or the ones who are perfectly okay with that sort of thing, for that matter). Now, I know Horton's probably not a musical, but I still don't expect something too thoughtful out of an adaptation of a children's book written by a dead man, presented by the same minds who gave us the live action Grinch just a few years ago. It doesn't get a free pass from me, no matter how Seuss-inspired the designs or how star-studded the cast. The way I see it, every time one of these hits the screen, talents are squandered.
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| psiga wrote: |
| Seuss' Horton Hears a Who -- which I wouldn't call anime. |
It pisses off my anime club when I call it Japanimation instead of anime. I still do it because they still call it anime. It's a spiral of hate and fear...
Maybe we should ask Rud13 or one of the other posters in Japan to go in a video store, find the anime section and take a photograph of Popeye's Greatest Hits on DVD. Because I think he would do it. He's that daring. |
I'm sad there's an anime club. I mean, seeing as people who would form such clubs are likely not referring to Popeye when they say it. |
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spinach
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:47 pm |
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| alice wrote: |
Hey guys, all that anime out there sucks :(. I'm looking for either something that is:
a. Good (haha, yeah right...)
b. Stupid and easy to understand and addictive and reasonably short that I can watch with french subs to brush up my french. I think... French is the only reason I even watch anime anymore... |
It's funny you posted that up four days after the last post. Srsly, though, I'll find you some primo stuff if you're serious, and I'm not talking the usual 12 fps melodrama. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:03 pm |
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| speaking of animations of French things, I heard there was a web series of Anita Bomba. I cannot find it anywhere. I only found the comics recently, and love them. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:16 pm |
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| Dumb Anime Girlfriend wrote: |
| fruits baske t |
stops being good the second the theme song is over. |
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spinach
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:35 am |
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| Gin wrote: |
| spinach wrote: |
| alice wrote: |
Hey guys, all that anime out there sucks :(. I'm looking for either something that is:
a. Good (haha, yeah right...)
b. Stupid and easy to understand and addictive and reasonably short that I can watch with french subs to brush up my french. I think... French is the only reason I even watch anime anymore... |
It's funny you posted that up four days after the last post. Srsly, though, I'll find you some primo stuff if you're serious, and I'm not talking the usual 12 fps melodrama. |
Spinach is a drug dealer in real life |
bag of happy for a quarter, mister |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:37 am |
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| Koji wrote: |
| How come the opening is so nice, though? One of my favorites. |
It's a good one. The song's stuck in my head right now, and I haven't watched the show in years! |
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| spinach wrote: |
| speaking of animations of French things, I heard there was a web series of Anita Bomba. I cannot find it anywhere. I only found the comics recently, and love them. |
I forgot the part where I ask if anyone knows where I might find this? |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:26 pm |
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| Rewatching Champloo off and on, it is perfectly delightful. All you people that don't like it can go ahead and consider yourselves not my friends, I'm pretty sure we can never connect on any meaningful personal level. |
I agree with this. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:56 pm |
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| samurai champloo isn't bad but i wouldn't go disowning my siblings about it |
You should. They're probably not even human. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:15 am |
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fuck you I'm not giving you shit.
Nah, I'd probably say Dead Leaves and Samurai Champloo.
EDIT: and Shin Chan. I don't know when it was actually done, but yeah. It's good for winding down on a saturday night. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:07 pm |
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| negativedge wrote: |
Saw Champloo and Dead Leaves! Even wrote a review of the later.
So, uhh, anything else? |
Everything missing from Dead Leaves became Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagan. I prefer the former still (but the latter show is better by far!). It's not so much a run on sentence as it is a short hyper-punk show with no downbeat - if it were any longer, it'd be exhausting. It doesn't need to be mindful - it's booze and candy, leave your nutrients at the door. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:06 pm |
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| No luck yet. |
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:13 pm |
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| glossolalia wrote: |
i like angel's egg
and they absolutely are fucking anime god jesus christ come on what did we just say
yuasa's stuff is anime, studio ghibli movies are anime, angel's egg is anime, midori is anime, the belladonna of sadness is anime
it doesn't matter how "deep" or "artsy" or different it is, it's anime
why do people feel the need to pretend the term (as a western colloquialism) means anything other than japanese cel and cg animation |
it's a japanese term for animation
Popeye is anime
Loony Toons is anime
Lion King is anime
animation holmes |
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:27 am |
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| glossolalia wrote: |
| spinach wrote: |
| glossolalia wrote: |
i like angel's egg
and they absolutely are fucking anime god jesus christ come on what did we just say
yuasa's stuff is anime, studio ghibli movies are anime, angel's egg is anime, midori is anime, the belladonna of sadness is anime
it doesn't matter how "deep" or "artsy" or different it is, it's anime
why do people feel the need to pretend the term (as a western colloquialism) means anything other than japanese cel and cg animation |
it's a japanese term for animation
Popeye is anime
Loony Toons is anime
Lion King is anime
animation holmes |
i know that's the literal japanese meaning, which is why i added "(as a western colloquialism)"
i was criticizing the use of the term to mean something even more specific that excludes various things-that-are-obviously-japanese-cartoons for some percieved quality
was my post really that hard to understand |
gloss, I might've just been squinting through my own bullshit |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:39 am |
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| Cannon Fodder was really good, since Memories was mentioned. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:26 am |
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| Whatching ∀ Gundam and it's pretty great. The incidental music is some of my favorite in a long time. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:28 am |
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One of you guys would've been right before Terminator 2 was made.
Toll, I love how ignorance is a major factor behind every skirmish. Also, poor, poor Will Game. Just finished Ep 15! |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:24 pm |
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| Turn A Gundam has a fucking surfing Gundam fight. It was like playing Shinobi 3 for the first time as a twelve year old all over again. Oh god, this. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:22 pm |
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In a fanboyish way, I almost want Sci-Fi's anime section to fail, because they've mishandled it terribly. If you put a show on weekly, then you really should show it weekly, not have random as fuck "let's watch an ancient anime movie no one likes instead of your regularly scheduled show three weeks in a row" activities. Like, if you want people to come back and keep watching, make sure the show is there for them to watch, right?
Anyways, it seems like Ani-Monday is coming back the week after, with the Premiere of Gundam 00. It's the first new Gundam in a long time that didn't make me ashamed to call myself a Gundam fan, and I wholeheartedly recommend it. People describe it as the Wing version of Seed, and those people are idiots; it's an action-oriented Gundam show but it really does follow the characters and plot exceptionally well. The first three episodes feel really slow, but once you get a picture of the world scene and the characters, things really get moving.
I'm writing an article on this at the moment for a site called colonydrop, but Gundam 00 definitely has some balls for being really clear about what they're trying to say. The original Gundam UC stories said a lot about war and government, but it was in the Universal Century, and countries weren't the countries we know them as. Gundam 00 is supposed to be set a couple of hundred years later, but it's very obvious the main power players are stand-ins for certain powers of the present day and thus what it's saying isn't distorted by Sci Fi Story insulation. It also avoids the whole "Amerikkka sux" thing which seems to be popular in anime at the moment--America does suck in Gundam 00, but so does everyone else, and we suck a lot less than the alternatives. |
I'm gonna talk about Turn A some more because Gym Gingham looks like Frank Miller drew him and Marybell has Braniac on the back of her head. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:34 pm |
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| The only thing I really know about Gundam is fuck newtypes, what a shitty idea. |
Turn A makes no mention of newtypes. Which is great! |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:58 pm |
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Companies are made of people, not electric head massagers guys.
Also, yeah, it feels very much like its Sunrise contemporaries only better in every way. It was kind of a good time for the company, what with Big O and Outlaw Star. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:17 pm |
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| Oh, I believe you, Takashi. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:47 am |
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| idle wrote: |
I agree that connecting Bebop to Manglobe is kind of stretching it, but ultimately it seems more similiar to their works than Sunrise's.
Personally, I think of games like Viewtiful Joe or Godhand as Clover titles, even though they were a part of Capcom at the time. It's sort of like that. It just feels like a bit of a disservice to Bebop to say it was made by the folks who pump out vapid, soul-destroying Gundam series, even if it's true. |
Some of those Gundam series are neither vapid nor soul-destroying!
I like 08th MS Team and G Gundam a whole lot! The latter certainly had spirit!
There aren't that many series, out of any studio, that approach Cowby Bebop or Samurai Champloo. I don't mean this as overall quality -- though they are both pretty great -- but in their actual qualities. There aren't too many shows that subtle.
Also I like that Champloo moved the camera a lot while characters were actually moving -- conventional wisdom says move the camera while nothing else is moving all that much to create a greater illusion of movement. Most any other studio would call that wasted work! |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:41 pm |
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| Takashi wrote: |
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| Man, I don't know if you guys just don't pay attention or what, but they actually did a pretty good job of compressing things into a just-over-2-hours-long movie. Aside from the supposed "mindfuck" of what becomes of Tetsuo at the end of the movie, I never had that much difficulty understanding what was going on even at ten fucking years old. Obviously the manga is much more detailed and everything, but really... |
It's not a question of what is going on, and yes of why it's going on. Akira does tell you a smidgen of information on Akira, the rebel forces and erm, pretty much anything that doesn't involve Kaneda and Akira screaming their names at each other for 15 minutes. |
i prefer not having everything explained in full
it's been too long, but i remember this thing packing info into a dense sequence of static shots later on, i'm a sucker for that sort of thing |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:20 pm |
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| turn-a gundam dances on both sides of the line, it's really fun |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:30 am |
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marvel loved that arc they never stopped groping the fallout
good times
my favorite iron man is the single issue story heavy metal genocide that's got iron vs. crimson dynamo IN SPACE and in the end tony's two weeks behind on his work as US SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
not long before that was vegas bleeds neon, a pretty fun arc about hughes fetishism and alien nano-machines, which was really laid back, and i love the colors
maybe i should scan these "less important" issues |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:39 pm |
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iron man's more real robot -- remember, the tech doesn't matter so much as the possibility of mass production, and stark industries pumps out iron man tech for the good of mankind, not to mention the mass produced suits made for the millitary from stane's designs
everybody and their mother has a piece of iron man, tony himself is a hughes analog who's really good at staying ahead of the curve, more of a symbol of the importance of innovation over imitation
year one and dkr batman are less super, and it's lovely. also, reading year 100 and it's great so far |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:58 pm |
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differs between writers for batman
brian azzarello treats him as human, and frank miller makes him a supergenius with incredible strength
broken city batman is probably my favorite batman outside of the black & white comps |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:34 pm |
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| big O is a remnant of an era long past (40 years lol), and there are only a few left, so he's special |
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donmarco read batman: broken city, it is a good detective story that ditches the supergenius and even most of the money
also the first tp of 100 bullets is pretty good, i think i'll pick up the rest
azzarello and risso do well with this crime story shit
the escapist is loaded with old-timey adventure charm
this made me notice the two nolan batman flicks have him totally sucking at detective work what the fuck
i feel your pain re: too much super in the hero sauce
before, the answer was to make all the superheroes jerks, but that was just dumb, and now stuff is escalating bigger and bigger and spans the universe and a bunch of other universes with aliens and superscientists and super strong super dudes and it's all just so fucked up
whatever happened to a good detective story? what happened to dudes busting up bad guys and dipping out before the cops showed up? whatever happened to dudes roughing up hoods using nothing more than what i might find at the local sporting goods store?
fuck dude, even csi pours on the superscience |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:17 am |
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| he wears batteries on his hips |
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:09 pm |
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| how old are you donmarco |
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:08 pm |
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btw i'm not coming down on you for watching cartoons -- especially not foster's, foster's was great
it's just weird to hear a statement about a chapter of one's childhood coming to a close in response to the cancellation of a show that ran for five years on a message board primarily populated by adults whose childhoods were already pretty much over by the time said show premiered
if that makes sense
i miss ed edd 'n' eddy |
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| a word on foster's: after i'd dropped out of art school, gone homeless, let my father talk me into coming back home to san diego, and spent three soul-crushing months looking for work, i saw foster's for the first time, and it really made me feel better |
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 6:15 pm |
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hey talbain you ever pick up a green lanter comic
those guys are all about willpower alone |
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| Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:33 am |
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| chevluh wrote: |
| IIRC there's actually a gurren lagann cameo in one of the green lantern comics. |
i would love to see that panel |
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| Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:34 am |
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| spinach wrote: |
hey talbain you ever pick up a wolverine comic
that guy is all about willpower alone |
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| Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:42 pm |
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| i'm only partly fucking with you |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:41 pm |
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| i am certainly interested, and the baking thread's been awful quiet |
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