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notbov



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:26 am        Reply with quote

Toptube wrote:
CubaLibre wrote:
Always the Marines. I want to play an Army man.


Bad Company series


pretty sure every BF game up until this was Army. at least, on most maps.

you could always play the Medal of Honor reboot.



...hopefully you're not that desperate.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:49 am        Reply with quote

It looks nice.

I guess they're focusing on single player too this time around?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:21 am        Reply with quote

notbov wrote:
Toptube wrote:
CubaLibre wrote:
Always the Marines. I want to play an Army man.


Bad Company series


pretty sure every BF game up until this was Army. at least, on most maps.

you could always play the Medal of Honor reboot.



...hopefully you're not that desperate.


MoH airborne was pretty alright. Much better than the latest pile.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:27 am        Reply with quote

my opinion on MoH is totally colored by the fact that i got a free copy and, by extension, essentially got a free invite to the BF3 beta. and the MP is half-decent.

which reminds me, i'm gonna have to shell out for W7 to play BF3.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:41 am        Reply with quote

notbov wrote:
my opinion on MoH is totally colored by the fact that it has a flak tower in it and those are the greatest
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:03 am        Reply with quote

Who is seriously excited by BF3?

It's another boring first-person shootmans wartime game. Huge amounts of time, money, and resources are being spent on a lame single-player campaign that most of you won't ever play more than once. And it'll probably play itself, just like CODBLOPS. Who cares how good it looks?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:14 am        Reply with quote

I wouldn't say I'm excited, but I'm going to play it. Once, but that's not really uh, as terrible as you make that out? What's disgusting about it is the $100 million marketing budget.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:16 am        Reply with quote

Ronnoc wrote:
I wouldn't say I'm excited, but I'm going to play it. Once, but that's not really uh, as terrible as you make that out? What's disgusting about it is the $100 million marketing budget.

I mean, hell, I don't remember the last time I finished a game, let alone beat it twice.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:41 am        Reply with quote

Dino Crisis 2 is getting a North American PSN release this week, and it only came to Japanese PSN last week. Great news, play this game if you haven't. Threads of Fate is apparently also getting PSN release treatment this week for North America.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:26 am        Reply with quote

Fuck yeah Dino Crisis 2!!!

Threads of Fate is good shit as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:55 pm        Reply with quote

Still have my PS1 copy of DC2 and the shitty guide for it. That game is something amazing, that's for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:15 pm        Reply with quote

Judge Ito wrote:
Who is seriously excited by BF3?

It's another boring first-person shootmans wartime game. Huge amounts of time, money, and resources are being spent on a lame single-player campaign that most of you won't ever play more than once. And it'll probably play itself, just like CODBLOPS. Who cares how good it looks?


Well the single player could go either way. BC1's single player is better than it has any right to be. BC2's tries really hard to be a medal of honor or call of duty. I mean, it definitely does it, but its pretty stale after the nice first game. The story is half decent, though.

But the reason to be excited about BF3 is the multiplayer----and fuck yeah I am excited. The Battlefield series is one of a handful of multiplayer games that I've ever tried and then continued to play for an appreciable amount of time. The BF series has seen a lot of my time. Battlefield 2 is largely regarded as the best PC multiplayer game ever (back when they didn't do singleplayer) and BF3 is being pushed as the true, numbered successor. As such, DICE's engine is being honed on the PC version first, then ported down to the consoles. Unfortunately, the consoles lack system RAM, so the player count is halved from the PC version which will likely mean smaller play areas on the maps. As such, I will likely be ditching my BC2 console pals for the PC version this time around.

Something I'm still waiting to hear about is whether or not the commander player role will return and what changes it may recieve.

In BF2Each team had one player act as team commander. He was given a sattelite/map view of the battlefield. On it he could see each squad on his own team and any enemies that were in direct field of view of his team. Using this map he could do a few important things:

Issue orders: attack here, defend here, hold this position, etc
He had ammo and health drops that could be parachuted to any general spot on the map. Players on his team could also specifically request the ammo and health drops and that person would be highlighted with a special symbol on the commander's map.

He also had UAV that he could deploy to aid his team.

Each team's main base had giant artillery batteries that could launch an air strike every few minutes. This was controlled by the commander. These batteries could be destroyed.

The commander is an actual physical player in the game. He has to hide himself somewhere so that he can utilize the map. At anytime he can move around and use a normal kit of weapons.

His map runs off a sattelite dish mounted somewhere at or near your base. This can be destroyed. I think the UAV ran off a seperate trailer that could be destroyed as well.
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Dracko
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:26 pm        Reply with quote

If we're talking team shooter games, this is coming out next week for $15:



And I'm still more intrigued about Operation Flashpoint: Red River than the game might have any right to inspire, but who knows? Dragon Rising was a better open arcade-milsim game than it got credit for.



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:21 pm        Reply with quote

Moogs wrote:
Threads of Fate is good shit as well.


Thread of Fate is one of my very favorite Square games. And the music!!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:55 pm        Reply with quote

i will second everything Toptube said. Battlefield games were never about single player (although BC1 found a comfortable middle ground between what we see in most military shootmans and the huge maps and vehicle play of BF multiplayer), but about people getting into a match and doing ridiculous bullshit with the tools presented to them to kill or otherwise impede the other team. the real point of excitement is the return of 64 player count, which will presumably lead into huge maps and more vehicles, and i guess more fully destructible stuff (if the bit at the end of the Fault Line trailer is being done in real time instead of being scripted, shit's gonna get hilarious in multiplayer).

hell, BC2's MP is a pretty good confidence booster in what they are trying to do with BF3, as long as i can still power tool people and tanks to death. although, hopefully they give the player back the ability to open doors (i know i've said that making players knife open doors in the BC games was stupid, but at least i didn't have stand around like an invalid waiting for a buddy to pop it open)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:58 pm        Reply with quote

Judge Ito wrote:
Who is seriously excited by BF3?

It's another boring first-person shootmans wartime game.

You have to be that guy?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:28 pm        Reply with quote

I'm still waiting on Activision to unveil their Modern Warfare sequel that is actually a lame prequel about a character that barely served as a visual in the second title.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:48 pm        Reply with quote

2 Sonics 1 Cup


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:54 pm        Reply with quote

No Sonichu, no sale!
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Take It Sleazy



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:55 pm        Reply with quote

guess all the remake old levels stuff was true

eh

pretty sure there's no hope for genesis style physics, but here's hoping they're more sonic colors and less sonic 4
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:19 pm        Reply with quote

Hopefully Colors has marked a turning point and we'll start seeing these games get better from here on out. Hopefully.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:30 pm        Reply with quote

Sonic fans really need to quit this abusive relationship already. it's pathetic watching you all walk back every time only to return crying into our shoulders with new bruises.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:30 pm        Reply with quote

Oh shit it actually looks like old Sonic doesn't boost/doublejump/home/ingest aliens.

Modern Sonic is the new Werehog.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:31 pm        Reply with quote

heroes, shadow and 2006 are the only really bad ones, and shadow isn't really that bad
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:35 pm        Reply with quote

hoping at least that there isn't a "story" reason for them to have 2 sonics and is just selecting 2D or 3D stages but that's probably hoping for too much

looks better than sonic 4
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:51 pm        Reply with quote

BotageL wrote:
Sonic fans really need to quit this abusive relationship already. it's pathetic watching you all walk back every time only to return crying into our shoulders with new bruises.


Sonic Colors was genuinely great and most everyone here is pretty skeptical of every Sonic game what are you talking about
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:04 pm        Reply with quote

There hasn't been a Sonic Cycle since Sega started showing Werewolves and Swords and AK-47s as the first thing from a game so they are easy to hate upfront
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:23 pm        Reply with quote

You know it would have been incredible if the game had been about time or dimensions getting melded together and not only are there two Sonics but there would also be two Robotniks and the two Robotniks would be constantly bickering with each other in their dialogues but then I remembered that both the good Robotnik VAs are dead :(
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:31 pm        Reply with quote

i wonder if there'll be two amy roses, since she's the character who had the biggest design change between generations
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:44 pm        Reply with quote

tacotaskforce wrote:
but there would also be two Robotniks and the two Robotniks would be constantly bickering with each other in their dialogues

They already did this in Sonic Rush.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:13 pm        Reply with quote

notbov wrote:
hell, BC2's MP is a pretty good confidence booster in what they are trying to do with BF3
I don't think I've put more time into any other game in the past year or two, and by that I mean its not even close. Whatever I spent on Demon's Souls is easily doubled, maybe tripled, by BC2 multiplayer.

I hope they drop BF2's jeep driving model directly into BF3 untouched. I've never had more fun driving anything with my keyboard.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:37 pm        Reply with quote

Loki Laufeyson wrote:
i wonder if there'll be two amy roses, since she's the character who had the biggest design change between generations



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:46 pm        Reply with quote

Toptube wrote:
notbov wrote:
hell, BC2's MP is a pretty good confidence booster in what they are trying to do with BF3
I don't think I've put more time into any other game in the past year or two, and by that I mean its not even close. Whatever I spent on Demon's Souls is easily doubled, maybe tripled, by BC2 multiplayer.

I hope they drop BF2's jeep driving model directly into BF3 untouched. I've never had more fun driving anything with my keyboard.

My experience is just the opposite (I spent multiple all-nighters enjoying Demon's Souls, delving into its little intricacies, trying out different character types, etc.), but Bad Company 2's hardcore multiplayer is really great. Or maybe I should say "was?" I dunno, when I started playing BC2 again, the HUD started appearing in HC. Wonder if that's a patch thing or something else, but either way, it wasn't the same and I really didn't enjoy it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:23 pm        Reply with quote

In game footage in the interview

Woah, Remixed Sonic 1 music? Sega really pushing the boat out here.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:55 pm        Reply with quote

And in case you don't speak Spanish, they also confirmed a storyline and the presence of all your favorite Sonic sidekicks.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:04 pm        Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:44 pm        Reply with quote

Takashi wrote:
And in case you don't speak Spanish, they also confirmed a storyline and the presence of all your favorite Sonic sidekicks.


I hope they stick to the nice funny kids cartoon fare of Colors or Unleashed but writing as bad or worse than Sonic 2006 would also be perfect
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:00 pm        Reply with quote

Well done Sega

You have spent millions of dollars making something that looks, sounds and moves less appealingly than a 20 year old Sega Mega Drive title
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:01 pm        Reply with quote

Take It Sleazy wrote:
Takashi wrote:
And in case you don't speak Spanish, they also confirmed a storyline and the presence of all your favorite Sonic sidekicks.


I hope they stick to the nice funny kids cartoon fare of Colors or Unleashed but writing as bad or worse than Sonic 2006 would also be perfect


I'm pretty sure around Colours, Sega mentioned that they would be having the two guys who did the MadWorld script write the sonic games from now on to avoid Sonic 2006 style pratfalls.

Now, if Sega were really shrewed, they would check Jaleel White's schedule to see if he was busy...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:04 pm        Reply with quote

Yeah, thanks but Jaleel White was one of the worst things they ever did to Sonic. Keep him a million miles away from this (pinned down under sustained sniper fire, I don't care) and bring back the TOOT TOOT SONIC WARRIOR woman.

Missed opportunity that they didn't cellshade classic Sonic in a Mega CD intro style.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:21 pm        Reply with quote

Looks more like Unleashed 2 than Colors did, sadly.
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