[Talbain]

http://arcadamia.com/Site/by_Mousechief.html
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[Tulpa]

[glossolalia]

yeah i just wish it hadn't been so ungodly hideous. this looks like it might be better on that front though. kudos to them for using the language of games to model interesting and relatively novel situations.

[Talbain]

I'm looking forward to seeing how it's presented. The idea of "constructing" a story appeals to me, particularly since that's the idea behind what a story is.

Also, I rather like the art style - who can question crocodiles, after all?
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[field balm]

notch sold 22 THOUSAND copies of minecraft in a single day
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[oepn]

So quickly that PayPal was unable to keep up.

[internisus]

Yeah, awhile back Paypal froze his account because they thought he was a terrorist due to the ludicrous funds streaming through.

Dude has fucking wealth. Incredibly heartening.

[BotageL]

[field balm]

nah, again, yesterday or something. it was 23 something thousand, reportedly made like $320k in a day
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[firenze]

[Dracko]

The Witcher was a very pleasant surprise and one of the best RPGs - let alone a fantasy title - I've played in a very long time, so this is heartening.
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[internisus]

[Dracko]

[Take It Sleazy]

That's just part of the early adopters tax for high tech consumer goods in general though. You snooze, you win.

[Dracko]

Yeah, this is nothing new and certainly did not start in gaming.
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[glossolalia]

you paid to get what you did at the time you did for a price you felt was fair. it's always arbitrary. massive deals are just a fact of business on Steam. if it's really about "faith"/consumer loyalty shouldn't you be happy you gave them more money or something? what would you get out of them keeping the price higher than good business dictates?

[internisus]

I'm not saying that this is new; I'm saying that I'm tired of it. And in this case, it's not like a bundle of DLC for some GOTY thing, either; what they should do is offer the original games separately for anyone who already owns the HD versions. Especially since this is a digital edition.

Also, since when are you guys okay with people getting dicked over just because it's the norm?

[glossolalia]

you didn't really get dicked over, though, you got exactly what you paid for. it would be a nice gesture if they offered the originals to existing HD customers, but it's not like they're hard to find for free. i guess i find your idea of consumer loyalty somewhat misguided.

[Dracko]

Guardian, do you also feel cheated when writers return to prior works because they felt they needed editing?

It's not misguided: It's outright naive.

By what right are you entitled to the originals if you buy an update?
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[Take It Sleazy]

You chose to pay for the privilege of playing the game as soon as possible. You are not entitled to anything because a better deal came out later. If you didn't think that you would get $40 worth of fun I don't know why you would pay for it. You shouldn't expect a company to be your friend.

[internisus]

Guys i am saying that the older versions are only available on the platform by rebuying the HD games. I'm just saying that there's no fucking reason not to make them available separately on a digital store so that people who patronized the games aren't forced to buy extra copies if they just want the new content. Why is that such a big deal? It seems like common sense. It's a dick move not to do that.

[Dracko]

[internisus]

You mean Good Old Games? No, thanks.

[Dracko]

You realise Serious Sam came out before Good Old Games ever existed, right?

Regardless, why should Valve have to deal with you not wanting to use that particular service anyhow?
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[negativedge]

it does kind of suck that you miss out on the original versions if you bought the games earlier.

on the other hand, it doesn't really matter at all. there's no reason that I know of to play the originals if you have the remakes, unless you just don't like the new look or your computer can't run the new engine--at which point, why did you buy the things in the first place?

[internisus]

Honestly, I'm not all that interested in playing the originals, but being able to compare would be fun. It's mostly the principle of the thing. Unless I rebuy, I will forever own less Serious Sam than other Steam customers who were more reluctant about the games. That just sucks.

Dracko, you're not making any sense to me. Valve didn't make the decision to release this edition and not put the individual content up separately. That's down to Croteam and/or Devolver Digital.

[Dracko]

Same difference: How and why is it their problem?

[Take It Sleazy]

Not being able to buy a standalone digital version of the old version of the exact same game you already bought on your special chosen platform of choice is kind of an inconvenience I guess. I really have no idea where you are getting dick move from. You really aren't owed any kind of reward because you wanted to play the game first.

$10 is the same price as the GOG version and about the same as you would pay for a boxed copy. Are you just OCD about having two copies or worried about transferring saves or something?

[Ronk]

man i just found a brand new bundle of all the matrix movies plus the animatrix at target for 10 bucks even though i payed much more for the first matrix when it first came out on dvd. WHAT THE FUCK, WARNER BROTHERS
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[Dracko]

"i don't even like the animatrix or the sequels but FUCK YOU FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY ON THE FIRST DVD YOU GREEDY CAPITALIST PIGS"
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[analogos]

Man. You guys are not really wrong or anything but this is a pretty disproportionate reaction to a dude's being kind of disappointed about something.

EDIT: I mean like, in volume. I know he said "furious" up there.

[Dracko]

Not really. He's being very dense.
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[internisus]

[Dracko]

You're saying you're entitled to the originals because you bought the HD games.

For free.

Don't even deny it, you expressed disappointment, if not outright childish anger, that this wasn't the case.

Here, I'll even quote you because you're apparently incapable of following your own logic.

[internisus]

[Dracko]

Funny, that's not what you said.

[Take It Sleazy]

With the steam sale you are getting both of the original games at a cheaper price then you usually would and in your format of choice. Give your extra copy of Sam HD to me I will bear your burden.

[internisus]

[Dracko]

Shouldn't have been in such a hurry to buy shit you didn't need, then.

This is not the developer's, publisher's or distributor's fault.
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[Take It Sleazy]

Right on the Steam page "Give your extra copy to a friend". I'll be your friend plus I won't get the original versions which I don't deserve.

[Toups]

if this keeps up I am asking birdcloud to implement a "get a room" button
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