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Bruce :(
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We were going to shoot shit but then I couldn't find ammo for my new gun and my friend forgot the gun he bought weird ammo for and it would be this whole huge trip and his wife was complaining and suddenly it was OH JUST MOVIES HURRR and--
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Really I should just live in a cave alone forever.
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*deleted orthodox Bruce Willis cuz pic was wrecking this page*

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Ha!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:01 pm        Reply with quote

Just watched Interiors, Crimes & Misdemeanors & rewatched Sweet And Lowdown. I'm really beginning to think the latter's the only Woody Allen movie I actually like.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:29 pm        Reply with quote

sweet and lowdown is pretty brilliant. i'm surprised crimes and misdemeanors didn't hold up but i suppose it is a little outrageous. this is just a hunch, but i would suggest that you also like deconstructing harry and zelig.

edit: history has shown deconstructing harry to be a powerfully prophetic movie, because it presaged the degenerate writer/academic trend of wonder boys, the squid and the whale, and that weird movie with dennis quaid by several years.
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Excellent.
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McG: Conquest of Paradise
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In'jun Genocide.

Musket bullet time.

Orange.


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evnvnv wrote:
sweet and lowdown is pretty brilliant. i'm surprised crimes and misdemeanors didn't hold up but i suppose it is a little outrageous. this is just a hunch, but i would suggest that you also like deconstructing harry and zelig.

edit: history has shown deconstructing harry to be a powerfully prophetic movie, because it presaged the degenerate writer/academic trend of wonder boys, the squid and the whale, and that weird movie with dennis quaid by several years.


I think it comes down to me finding Woody to be a generally shit writer. He seems to have ideas, but the actual connections and flow between them seldom seem to be recognizably human or interesting, and all of his characters either sound featureless or like Woody Allen clones. Maybe it's his standup roots or something (disclosure: can't stand Seinfeld or Larry David either), but even his best actors seem to have trouble getting past the scripts. I'm guessing Sweet and Lowdown might have worked because A) It didn't have Woody playing a character and B) It was mostly monologue, avoiding his typical banter and C) Penn and Morton were just awesome. Also, it was a movie about Woody's passion (jazz music and folklore) rather than his profession (movies and being an upper-class white guy).
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In'jun Genocide.

Bullet time.

Orange.


The Atlantic is just begging to be painted teal, right?
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rabite, I'm just going to assume you're not a fan of self-absorbed, neurotic jews.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:28 pm        Reply with quote

Is that it? I mean, acclaim for stuff like Crimes & Misdemeanors is so universal (at least Rosenbaum agrees with me, but that's about it) that it's got me questioning my own faculties.
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I was just jesting you.

It's been a while since I've seen Crimes and Misdemeanors. I liked the Landau parts, but I felt the Allen sections detracted from the story, despite the theme of duality. I guess some would be bothered by the morality of the Landau section though.

The daydream flashback in Landau's childhood home probably laid it a bit too thick, I'll admit.
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I didn't mind the flashback; at least Allen was trying to make a living character there. It was everything else with Landau's character that felt cardboard to me. He never sold it to me on any emotional level.
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I guess the character's motivations and guilt could be far better presented, but I did find Landau's performance (well, any performance of his) quite gripping.
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Stills from A Dangerous Method.
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Yes I think the fact that woody allen works with brilliant st director and cinematographers tricks you in to wanting to think he is a cinematic or realist master but everything he writers is very stagey and even hammy.you can really understand this by reading his short stories. The other problem is like mamet for some reason he often hires actors who simply can't read his dialogue. I still love him T-T
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It looks like the Lindelof rewrite of Alien prequel doesn't deviate too much from Spaihts original draft (which fanboys hated, but I rather liked). Still keeping a minute shred of hope.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:44 am        Reply with quote

Saw Porcile, my first Pasolini film the other night. It was some pretty fun stuff--definitely impressive for someone who took up film making as a whim.

I also rewatched The Beauty and The Beast for the first time in ten years. I was a little disappointed by it, but I can see why some people regard it as the best Disney animated movie. I wasn't so into a lot of the design choices. They did a good job of creating the world of a French hamlet and hearkening to European cartooning styles. But Belle and Gaston looked sort of obvious or perfunctory to me. And it looked like the animators couldn't keep up with the complexity in Belle's face; her eyes and mouth shifted during difficult transitions. I wasn't so into the songs either--not a lot of catchy melodies or clever lyrics. But in terms of plot structure, it was probably the most complex Disney movie. It's not an obvious hero's journey story, and the second act transitions smoothly into the third. There were even moments when I didn't feel like I knew exactly what was going to happen. Ultimately, though, I guess I shouldn't be watching kids' movies in the hopes of being surprised.

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Yes I think the fact that woody allen works with brilliant st director and cinematographers tricks you in to wanting to think he is a cinematic or realist master but everything he writers is very stagey and even hammy.you can really understand this by reading his short stories. The other problem is like mamet for some reason he often hires actors who simply can't read his dialogue. I still love him T-T

I've always assumed the problem with Mamet (and maybe Allen) is that he insists that his actors read everything exactly how it was written.

When he bothers to hire established actors they do okay, though.

I've never understood the casting in House of Games, though. I feel like a pretty successful conman story was gummed up by community-theater caliber performances. Joe Mantegna does alright, but he's still a bit awkward. And I don't get the impression that Mamet was trying the foreground the artifice of film, or whatever.
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(which fanboys hated).

Why the Hell would they hate it?

Oh right, fanboys.
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The Tree of Life finally has a release date.
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I was a little worried, but Kiarostami's new movie is actually pretty cool, helped that he was there, and answered a lot of questions, but I think it's definitely worth checking out if it comes to your town.
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my brothers this is bleak. I just caught The Boondock Saints 2: All Saints Day. I have to say that I was too harsh on Troy Duffy following my viewing of the original Boondock Saints film. After viewing The Boondock Saints 2: All Saints Day I realize the The Boondock Saints was laying the foundation for an epically skyboxed motion picture saga about shootin' motherfuckers which I was simply too immature to appreciate upon my viewing of the original film. The Boondock Saints 2: All Saints Day fleshes out the canon in ways that bring exciting new dimension to the Boondock Saints universe and elevate it from pedestrian crime film territory and into a fiercely hypnotic cinematic stratosphere which has forced me to reevaluate my feelings on many classic films. Barry Lyndon may have great, innovative lighting and cinematography but it doesn't have the face-melting awesomeness of two irish brothers and their ambiguously latin cohort meting out sweet lead-based justice to a variety of underworld types who are frequently of questionable ethnic extraction. I mean, we have to keep the gene pool clean right guyz?

Look, I just think it's time a movie about catholic vigilantes taught us about the perils of miscegenation and The Boondock Saints 2: All Saints Day does that. It has everything you could ask for in a motion picture: guns, tits, guntits, explosions, titguns. Tits. Guns. Bullets. Bullets coming out of guns. Close-ups of magazines filled with bullets being rammed home into guns like my dick into a white bitch and then a round slams home and there is the camera right on the breech and I'm all UGUUUUU~

I am bleak my brothers and this is a fucking sweet movie you should buy a copy on blu-ray disc with immediacy so says bleak
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I think Certified Copy might be my favorite of his. It's up on KG for anyone living outside the festival circuit.

Mustache, did Kiarostami give any interesting answers? I read recently that he's thinking of making a film in Japan with Binoche.
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Should I see others films of his before watching this? I just found a copy to download and I would love to see this.
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No. Certified Copy is probably Kiarostami's most accessible work, a perfect starting point. I'd recommend you see that and Close-Up, before going on to more difficult fare like Taste of Cherry and The Wind Will Carry Us.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:01 am        Reply with quote

Thank you! I can't wait.
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Looks like Black Swan is actually hardcore, fingernails-falling-out body horror. Pretty pumped!
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There's a hope in this country, probably the world, that the ease of digital production will break the backs of the behemoth movie studios. It's a hope propagated solely because there's a portion of the audience who, like those American Idol contestants who Just Don't Get It, think they've got something to say, and that something is better than those talentless fucks who get all the chances. Sure, you'll find others who say that the rest of the world is clamoring for these things as well, but it isn't true, don't believe it for a second. Audiences are fine with Pixar's fables, they're creaming their jeans for Christopher Nolan's sterility, they're packing stacks of cheddar for big budget sci-fi remakes of Dancing With Wolves. If they want individual works of art, unique, personal films--well, they've got plenty of those. Godard's still around. Haneke's got plenty of life left in him. The Criterion Collection is selling pillowcases. Besides, the dream on the horizon for our hopefuls isn't a sea of Slacker remakes (those are available as well, they just call it "film school" and "the Sundance Institute"), it's shit like Monsters, fan-fiction and a dream of remaking Die Hard, propelled by the belief that all it takes to make great genre is a wholly unwarranted belief in oneself and hilarious self-created "writing" schedules that involve lots of alarm clocks. It's the old LA joke gone viral--you're not a bartender, you're a screenwriter, wait until you see this buddy cop story. And while Monsters isn't responsible for any of that, it's an outgrowth of it, and that's why you're going to be hearing about this one for a couple of hot minutes when it finally hits theaters. Oh, the print critics won't praise it--five will get you ten that Armond White and Roger Ebert will team-up against this nonsense--but the wanna-bes will be out in droves. They don't have a choice. This is the kind of crap that's going to buy them the sandcastles of their dreams.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:34 am        Reply with quote

i guess that he's being intentionally curmudgeonly, but someone who thinks of 'unique, personal films' and comes up with godard (2010 godard, no less) and haneke is not a very good critic in my eyes.
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Saw 3D is still quite bad with some obvious twists and the most telegraphed ending in film history, but this one ranks extremely high on the ownage scale if you are into that sort of thing. I cant quite hate on a movie that brutally murders the lead singer of Linkin Park in one of the most gnarly deaths of the series. A small cheer erupted in the cinema. Not as good as Saw VI: DEATH PANELS, but its an ok waste of time on Halloween.
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i don't think it's wrong to say some of these designs are pretty good.


i like the brazil and westworld ones.
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Decalogue, pt. 1
The kid's a genius
Dad's a heathen technophile
God: asshole Luddite.
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I watched the Good, The Bad, The Weird. It still manages to be a fun movie despite not even trying to use any of the elements that made the Good, The Bad, and the Ugly a great movie. I really liked this special effect they would use where whenever a physical stunt would be performed, the camera would start in close to the stunt but then would rapidly pull back a good 10 or 20 feet while the stunt was going on. It lent a cool sense of frantic movie much better than modern Hollywood jump cuts.
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