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Dracko
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:03 pm        Reply with quote

Man, he's never been that bad.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:28 pm        Reply with quote

He's just not as good as people say....

I still like him, though.

Still haven't checked out The Fountain, though it's on my computer. Someone convince me.
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Possibly wolverine's finest non-clawed performance.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:43 pm        Reply with quote

Other people who saw Black Swan: was their laughter in your audience? If so, when?

I saw it at a Regal Cinema in a room the size of a barn, because it was the only theater showing it at 1AM. It was a pretty full room. The audience laughed hardest when Portman bit Whathisname's lip ("I can't believe you bit me!") and when Portman realized she was masturbating in front of her sleeping mother.

A friend of mine saw the movie at a festival screening in Philly awhile ago, and people laughed there as well. Aronofsky was there for a Q&A, and apparently he said the laughter confused him and he wasn't sure how he felt about it.

Edit: Just wondering if there were common laugh moments across all audiences, or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:57 pm        Reply with quote

The Fountain was total garbage almost redeemed by interesting low budget special effects.
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Pro-Apocalyptic wrote:

Oh, and if the portrayal of ballet culture is accurate (I don't know if it is, I lived with a ballerina for like a year and she was very laid-back and pleasant), then my ill-conceived prejudices against the medium were dead on.


Watch The Company probably. Also, the "Prima Ballerina" thing is a throwback; these days at the NYCB the roles are usually pretty interchangeable between the ~20 principles and some soloists.

This Machine Kills Fascis wrote:
Aronofsky was there for a Q&A, and apparently he said the laughter confused him and he wasn't sure how he felt about it.


I find that pretty telling.


Tulpa wrote:
The Fountain was total garbage almost redeemed by interesting low budget special effects.


Replace "almost redeemed by" with "featuring" and I'd agree with you.
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Tulpa wrote:
The Fountain was total garbage almost redeemed by interesting low budget special effects.


Pretty much.
I went to see this one expecting it to be as mind-burningly stupid as Requiem for a Dream, but instead it was just lame and stupid. I liked the tree.
The Wrestler seemed even more mature so I didn't bother.

The new one looks interesting but I just know it'll be annoying in some way :(
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eah, it’s one thing. I don’t know if I should worry or not, but the image of the penis coming at the camera at the end was not meant to be funny. People are laughing so much. I don’t know if it’s a nervous reaction or because it’s really funny. But I thought it would be epic or mythological or dramatic, like the rest of the movie. Or dream. If you saw that in your own dreams, you would not laugh.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:39 pm        Reply with quote

The Wrestler was pretty much the best Aronofsky movie, though I liked the Fountain (not as a "good movie", but as the end of a trainwreck, it was interesting to see).

I will see Black Swan whenever it gets to Cleveland.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:40 pm        Reply with quote

Haha man, Gaspar Noé has to be the most unsubtle director of all times, and I love him for it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:07 pm        Reply with quote

The Fountain made a better comic than a film, yeah.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:04 pm        Reply with quote

gaspar noe is really like the french aronofsky, and i have very little patience for either of them. into the void does look kind of good, though
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:16 pm        Reply with quote

You guys should watch Big Fan to get a better idea of how much of The Wrestler came from its writer. It's a good movie, similar in ways to The Wrestler but also an homage to Paul Schrader films.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:30 pm        Reply with quote

evnvnv wrote:
gaspar noe is really like the french aronofsky, and i have very little patience for either of them. into the void does look kind of good, though


He is in a way, but he is also much more crass, which works in his favor.

(haven't seen enter the void)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:55 pm        Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountain_%28comics%29
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:08 pm        Reply with quote

Ad for Black Swan in the Willamette Week says in select theaters Dec. 10 so I'm guessing it'll come to Portland by then???

There's also an advanced screening but all the passes seem to have been handed out it seems.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:18 pm        Reply with quote

Fox Tower on the 10th according to the beast itself's website.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:48 pm        Reply with quote

This Machine Kills Fascis wrote:
Other people who saw Black Swan: was their laughter in your audience? If so, when?

I saw it at a Regal Cinema in a room the size of a barn, because it was the only theater showing it at 1AM. It was a pretty full room. The audience laughed hardest when Portman bit Whathisname's lip ("I can't believe you bit me!") and when Portman realized she was masturbating in front of her sleeping mother.

A friend of mine saw the movie at a festival screening in Philly awhile ago, and people laughed there as well. Aronofsky was there for a Q&A, and apparently he said the laughter confused him and he wasn't sure how he felt about it.


This all happened in my 12:45am screening, as well. The mom part, the biting part, and a bunch of other serious moments. Felt like tension-relieving laughter, but I don't really remember laughing in a Hitcock movie or something similar.

I did not like this movie.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:59 pm        Reply with quote

Enter the void = a shitty irresponsible requiem for a dream with no psychological nuance
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:43 am        Reply with quote

Are you implying that Requiem for a Dream has, of all things, psychological nuance?
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shrugtheironteacup wrote:
Possibly wolverine's finest non-clawed performance.


The score? Quite listenable when separated from the film.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:11 am        Reply with quote

Faithless wrote:

This all happened in my 12:45am screening, as well. The mom part, the biting part, and a bunch of other serious moments. Felt like tension-relieving laughter, but I don't really remember laughing in a Hitcock movie or something similar.


I saw Black Swan in one of San Francisco's classier movie theaters (where the theater design tries to capture the atmosphere of a symphony hall or live theater stage) at a 7:30 show.

There was a good amount of laughter at first (especially during the bite scene), but by the 2/3 mark everyone was more or less entirely silent as far as I can remember (either that, or I was too absorbed to really notice).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:40 am        Reply with quote

Baseballkappe wrote:
Are you implying that Requiem for a Dream has, of all things, psychological nuance?


there is more psychological nuance in the character of sarah goldfarb than there is in ten thousand enter the voids
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lol
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since when did requiem become a bad/uncool movie? my impression was that it was the only worthwhile thing aronofsky's ever done (aside from filming monica bellucci mostly naked)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:36 am        Reply with quote

it is the worst
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Vikram Ray wrote:
since when did requiemmy impression was that it was the only worthwhile thing aronofsky's ever done (aside from filming monica bellucci mostly naked)


What? When did that happen?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:06 am        Reply with quote

Errr marisa tomei

Dracko you are the worst
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:13 am        Reply with quote

My high school didn't shut up about Requiem for two years, so that's where my contempt comes from.
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You shouldn't let that affect your own opinion
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Dracko you are the worst

Now you're just being mean.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:32 am        Reply with quote

Nuance

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having seen Enter the Void twice now, i can say that the only real complaint i have against it is that some of the shots could probably have been edited down a bit. it works really well on a large screen the first time you see it, as it's sort of disorienting (much like a lot of the film), but i found myself getting impatient between transitions into the lights in the rooms.

it's not a subtle movie in the least, but i'm not sure it's supposed to be torture porn either.

as a friend texted me during the film (upon his first viewing), "i'm glad they put that shot in "Void" of the penis cumming in the vagina cause i had no idea what those two characters were doing"


Black Swan looks...all right. i'll see it because Natalie Portman/Mila Kunis
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:59 pm        Reply with quote

I saw Requiem in the theater when it came out and never really ran into too many people that had watched it outside of this forum, so that might be why I can still like it. Calling it nuanced at all is a bit amusing though, since it is clearly meant as an assault, and works pretty well as such. Not subtle, but pretty effective. A little too overreliant on Aronofsy-isms, but I expected that after Pi (which was a film worth seeing, but had a ton of issues script-wise).

Ebrey wrote:
You guys should watch Big Fan to get a better idea of how much of The Wrestler came from its writer. It's a good movie, similar in ways to The Wrestler but also an homage to Paul Schrader films.


I have it on instant queue, so I should watch it at some point. I know from reading stuff around it that it was really a collaboration of the two men, which is good, becaus Aronofsky needs someone aorund to keep his excesses in line.
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yea, Big Fan is surprisingly entertaining
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:49 pm        Reply with quote

boojiboy7 wrote:
I saw Requiem in the theater when it came out and never really ran into too many people that had watched it outside of this forum, so that might be why I can still like it. Calling it nuanced at all is a bit amusing though, since it is clearly meant as an assault, and works pretty well as such. Not subtle, but pretty effective.


Certainly the film's aesthetic isn't very nuanced, but the film is effective because it had CHARACTERS, who are drawn effectively enough so that the film's all-out assault of a climax actually means something. Enter the Void had no characters. like, at all. so its climax is just a bunch of asian bodies bathed in neon having sex.
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Vikram Ray wrote:
so its climax is just a bunch of asian bodies bathed in neon having sex.

If you are trying to convince people not to see the movie, you are failing.
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Vikram Ray wrote:
film is ineffective because it had CHARACTERS, who are drawn

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its climax is just a twelve foot dick blasting you in the face

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:58 pm        Reply with quote

Enter the Void should test anyone's patience eventually, but all in all it's a good film, and a great-looking one.

I had hoped it would be even better than Irreversible, but I would say that it is not.

Irreversible is a better film than anything else mentioned on this page.
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A Zed & Two Noughts is a better film than anything else mentioned on this page.
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