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This Machine Kills Fascis Unfinite Indiscovery

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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:06 am |
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| evnvnv wrote: |
| I'll admit to being a sucker for that kind of dialogue, even when filtered through several layers of inferior direction and script. Though I guess Altman probably got it from somewhere it's kind of hard to insist that he did not perfect it! Robert Altman is (was T-T) the best director. |
I'm actually not so sure that Altman lifted it. I mean, lots of filmmakers before Altman allowed action to happen out of frame, but I do think Altman's use of it is justifiably considered signature. And yeah: I love the way Spielberg appropriated it in ET and Close Encounters to ground the audience in believable, realist worlds before adding the fantastical elements.
Man, I really love both those movies, and I don't think they get enough credit among film snobs. They're such personal films that clearly draw from Spielberg's own anguish over his parent's divorce. The shouting arguments in Close Encounters are so realistic that they're uncomfortable to watch, and there's that scene in ET where the kids are talking sentimentally about their dad (whose existence is never acknowledged before then) while the government guy listens to them via the bug planted in the house. And then everything goes to shit, and Elliot wakes up to find his house transformed into a sterile lab environment (talk about "unheimlich").
Anyway, yeah I'm a sucker for that trick too, and at first I was pleased to see it in Super 8. But ultimately, I think the movie was (literally) too filtered to pull off that sort of slice of life style. (Kubrick does a really good job of it in the beginning of The Shining, too! Man, I love 70's realism.) _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:28 am |
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Re: Micheal Bay
Man, I completely space out during action set pieces. I really need to be grounded in character reactions for events on screen to mean anything to me, so when shit is exploding, cars are running into each other, and shots are cutting from one to the other like a strobe light I get literally nothing out of it. I usually can't even remember what happened afterward.
So my opinions on American action set piece movies are always, like, "Blar blar blar, why did they waste my time?" I guess you have to imagine what it would be like to watch a Micheal Bay movie with all the action scenes replaced with blips of white. That's pretty much my experience. All I'm left with is the the overbearing music and the mediocre plot, dialogue, and acting.
That's not to say that I think films need to be narrative or that the merit of a film necessarily comes from its narrative, or that I get nothing out of the aesthetics of a film. (That would probably impede me from enjoying a lot of great movies. Tarkovsky's a good example.) It's that to me explosions and things colliding aren't interesting, especially since the way they're shot is often pretty cliche. And generally I'm more attracted to composition than spectacle. I literally don't enjoy fireworks, but when the cinematography of a scene is really specific it's just...I dunno, nice.
So for whatever reason, I'm just not programmed to appreciate a Micheal Bay movie.
I do like crazy kung-fu movies, though, because the exchange of power dynamics and technique is so direct and obvious; I can follow the drama of it. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:25 pm |
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Guys, can we start calling Micheal Bay "The Bay"? _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:13 pm |
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| Sollah wrote: |
I think you are the only two people I know besides the family that's read the book.
I thought everybody read it in school when they were little. ;_; |
I used to hear my mom reading it to my brother at bed time from my cage behind the radiator.
As I recall, the book starred Jim Carrey as well. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:33 pm |
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| Tulpa wrote: |
| I was made upset by the Jack and Jill trailer. I called TMKF after and he told me that Mister Popper's Penguins was a real movie that came out and I felt distraught. I felt like all the safe illusions in my life were shattered. #firstworldproblems |
Yeah, I saw a parody of the Jack and Jill trailer in that South Park episode that someone posted, but I didn't realize that it was a real movie until I saw this thread.
When I told Tulpa, he said, "Wait, does that mean that Mr. Popper's Penguins is real too?"
Only a week before, he told me that he had thought the Zookeeper trailer was a fake fan trailer when he first saw it.
Basically, Hollywood has thrust poor Tulpa into an ontological crisis. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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| If you die in the axe, you die in real life |
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:30 am |
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| vision wrote: |
| shame the Will Smith/Steve Spielberg Oldboy unraveled |
I've already decided that Zinda is Oh Dae-Su's alternate memory of the events of Oldboy, created by the hypnotist at the end of the original film. What will the American version be?
I wonder how the American movie will handle the ending. I actually found the Woo-jin stand-in's evil scheme in Zinda a lot more disturbing than Woo-jin's more complex, psychological scheme. I guess I find child rape more disturbing than consensual incest. Call me crazy. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:37 am |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
wtf is dis pish |
It doesn't look all that bad, but I mean...why?
At least it's not a JJ Abrams joint. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:17 am |
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Wait, it's not a remake? Huh.
Just...huh. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:21 am |
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Do people know that they can create movies with new stories?
Like, you can literally just pay some other guy to do the writing. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:45 am |
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Every true Silent Running fan refuses to watch it on any format other than Laser Disc. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:51 am |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
| It was weirdly emotionally flat - the script went through the three-act motions but I never felt any rising or falling action during the whole thing, just one long stream of Nazi-punching whatever. |
So is there, like, a central Nazi villain that he fights against and conquers to offer a sense of closure? Is it that Darth Maul guy from the video game commercial? I'm never going to see the movie, and I don't know anything about the franchise. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:07 am |
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Neat.
I hope the script's good. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:42 pm |
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I found Pan's Labyrinth to be pretty "meh," (which was a bit of a let down).
I honestly can't remember much from it, though. I'm gonna count that as a strike against it, since a lot of great movies have scenes that seem to haunt or obsess me for the rest of my life. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:50 am |
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Saw Tabloid tonight. It's definitely a pretty crazy story, but as a film I thought it was pretty "meh."
There was a sort of overbearing score throughout, providing straight-forward emotions for moments that I think should have been left ambiguous. I mean, part of the point of the movie is to conflate various truths, so I don't want music telling me when something is creepy and when something is funny.
Morris makes an attempt to spice it up, visually, but ultimately it's nearly 2 straight hours of talking heads.
I'd recommend it, but I wouldn't say it's a classic must-see.
I mean, it's kind of like a particularly memorable This American Life episode without any of the heart. Yeah, I think that's the best summary I can muster. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:10 pm |
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I actually went to see Cave of Forgotten Dreams, but it was sold out :/
I might go today if I can rope someone into it. I'm not a fan of going to movies alone, but the guy at IFC said he couldn't guarantee that it would run for more than another week; so I may have to!
Again, Tabloid wasn't bad, but I was a little disappointed that I went from going to see a movie that I will only be able to fully appreciate in theaters to seeing a movie that wouldn't be at all diminished if I watched it on my computer a month or so later.
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| if you count herzog's narration then cave of forgotten dreams is almost 100% unbearable talking heads. |
Well, that's kind of what I expect. I'm mostly just excited to see the artwork (in beautiful THREE DEE). _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:23 pm |
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"Wargames" holds up beautifully, if you can handle mediocre direction.
Man, these 80's movies for teens are a lot less condescending than contemporary movies for everyone. _________________ "Godzilla could be anyone."
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:00 am |
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| Wait, were two pages just excised from this thread in the last five or so hours? |
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