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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:35 am        Reply with quote

i just watched "apocalypto", after a couple years of everyone i know telling me to watch it. i was lucky to be able to watch it on blu-ray on my dad's enormous LED HDTV.

i didn't realize that, at over age thirty, i would still be able to see a film for the first time and consider it my Favorite Film Ever.

it had everything! minimal exposition, a ziggurat, and a hot / sometimes-naked pregnant female lead!

mel gibson, in addition to being a psychopath who sometimes screams at his wife over the telephone while being clandestinely tape-recorded, is also crazy enough to probably literally believe he has actually met / conversed with god before, which more or less makes him what professional film critics would call an "artistic genius".

wow! what a great film. i might watch it again someday.

i saw "true grit" yesterday, too. it was more or less a perfect film, and i suppose i liked it a little bit.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:23 am        Reply with quote

rabite gets whacked! wrote:
108 wrote:
i just watched "apocalypto", after a couple years of everyone i know telling me to watch it. i was lucky to be able to watch it on blu-ray on my dad's enormous LED HDTV.

i didn't realize that, at over age thirty, i would still be able to see a film for the first time and consider it my Favorite Film Ever.

it had everything! minimal exposition, a ziggurat, and a hot / sometimes-naked pregnant female lead!

mel gibson, in addition to being a psychopath who sometimes screams at his wife over the telephone while being clandestinely tape-recorded, is also crazy enough to probably literally believe he has actually met / conversed with god before, which more or less makes him what professional film critics would call an "artistic genius".

wow! what a great film. i might watch it again someday.


Sometimes it's awfully hard to tell when you're trolling.


that post was dead serious! the "Favorite Film Ever" part might qualify as the most trollish part -- as might the whole paragraph re: the film having "everything", though hey, i'll be gad durned if that ain't a collection of things i really do appreciate.

the flavor of my post, as it were, was Happy-Delicious, meaning that i had seen the film and had actually, thoroughly enjoyed it in a miraculous fashion; i meant everything that i said, though i spiced up the capacity in which i appeared to mean what i said.

in short, when reading my retarded words, just Follow Your Heart!

"apocalypto" is basically as good a movie as "out of this world" is a game, and for many of the same reasons!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:52 am        Reply with quote

"25 fucking years, man"
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:04 pm        Reply with quote

today i re-read nikolai gogol's "taras bulba", and now i'm going to watch both the 1962 hollywood film and the 2009 russian film!

this could be an awesome idea or a terrible one!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:20 pm        Reply with quote

"true grit" made me want to see the coens remake something enormous and beloved -- ben-hur, gone with the wind. i am so not joking.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:08 pm        Reply with quote

evnvnv wrote:
coen bridge on the river kwai would be pretty ace


god, yeah. man, yeah.

who would play the alec guinness role?

william h macy with a british accent??? (then wins academy award <3)

edit: i mean, seriously, "kwai" is one of my all-time favorite super-holy sacred films and i would love to see the coens' interpretation of the source material.

they'd have to squeeze ken watanabe in there i guess.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:20 pm        Reply with quote

evnvnv wrote:
negativedge wrote:
if we could not have the hobgoblin try to make Faulkner Hollywood, that'd be great


james franco is probably already smarter than almost everyone in hollywood. he is apparently some kind of crazy hyperactive autodidactic wizard. not saying this automatically makes him some kind of genius director, but i will be interested to see what he comes up with if he ever does actually direct a movie.


yeah, i am pretty sure james franco is a disgustingly smart dude, if not a genius. if he directed a film adaptation of a faulkner novel, there's an enormous chance it'd be something fantastic (and a decent-sized chance it'd be something spectacularly terrible). i am all about seeing people take huge risks with giant piles of money, so i say let's see what bro can do. i mean, why TF not?

i mean, let's not forget that william faulkner co-wrote screenplays for dumb (awesome) films such as "land of the pharoahs". it's kind of fitting that an "actor" (who in fact is actually more of a dude who does a bunch of other shit, too) adapt and direct faulkner's work as a film.

i definitely want to see james franco direct a film and though i'm not 1,000% sure faulkner or cormac mccarthy is the best choice, though why not hit the ground running? the worst thing that could happen is all the world sees this guy and says "what an asshole" and he never eats lunch in any town ever again.

"the black swan" was pretty great, by the way. you were write cocaine socialist / coca cola marxist -- that whole ending sequence was pretty sweet in a theater with spectacular sound :-3

out of sheer boredom i saw "RED" at a dollar theater last night. wow, there's a good film that someone shot in the back of the head during pre-production.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:25 pm        Reply with quote

so who's excited about THE GREEN HORNET on friday?????????

. . . . . . . . . i guess i'm going to see it.

in other news, i might actually go see "the dilemma". because: i am kind of a jerk.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:14 am        Reply with quote

remote wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK why does this thread consistently fail to send me email notifications


make it a home tab in your browser!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:12 pm        Reply with quote

man, weird. jennifer connelly was also in "requiem for a dream". hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:48 pm        Reply with quote

oh man, i will go see that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:37 pm        Reply with quote

roger ebert calls "the green hornet" "an almost unendurable demonstration of a movie with nothing to be about."

man, what a good sentence.

i guess i am still going to go see it with my little brother, because what else are you going to do with your little brother before going back to san francisco until christmas?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:36 pm        Reply with quote

hans landa!

yeah, ebert's 3D vendetta is weird as hell. he did admit that "avatar" used 3D well. so who knows.

i personally dislike 3D as well, though i am starting to come around thanks to a couple of trailers. it took a trailer for fucking pirates of the caribbean to convince me that maybe 3D is really cool and someday it'll be perfect and awesome. being able to discern the distance between the tip of extreme-close-up johnny depp's nose and his eyelid is pretty nifty, and i suppose it has applications outside dumb action movies.

maybe "the green hornet" is dumb as hell. well, whatever. i'm going to see it tonight anyway :-3
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:09 pm        Reply with quote

Pro-Apocalyptic wrote:
Baseballkappe wrote:
I don't think I like Blade Runner :(


I don't understand how "I don't like" can be the predicate when "Blade Runner" is the subject.


FACT: while i read this sentence, the instant i saw the word "predicate", an announcer in the steelers-ravens game used the word "predicate". that is a weird word to have a simultaneous two-media deja-vu with.

("the ravens' entire game predicates on protecting joe flacco")
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:20 pm        Reply with quote

also: if anyone cares, i saw "the green hornet". IN A WORLD of superhero movies, this one might be some kind of postmodern masterpiece, in all its fascinating terribleness. i agree with ebert at least 90% of the time. i guess this was one of the 10%. i'd give it a strong two and a half stars, and strongly urge the filmmakers to make the second one Even Weirder.

the weirdness of the action scenes was actually remarkable. the whole last blatant disgusting overblown setpiece was extraordinary! ebert jokes that seth rogen probably had an easy time writing the screenplay because all he had to do was write "now the special effects people make nine minutes of action", though man, ebert, can't you see that this is a different breed of action? this is some weird, sticky, twisted shit. so man, whatev. it's the kind of action scene that only a writer could think of. like that big action scene at the end of "pineapple express": it's full of precise geometrical awareness that literally any other modern movie with a gun battle or car chase lacks.

we have two superheroes who are journalists (spider-man and superman) and two superheroes who are exorbitantly wealthy (ironman and batman), and two superheroes who are more or less constantly believed to be bad guys (spider-man and batman). with the green hornet, we have a multimillionaire journalist superhero with a villainous reputation. i guess the guys writing it were just like, "whatev let's put lots of awful / weird dialogue in there and make the action scenes logistically fascinating".

i didn't love the movie, or even like it a lot. however, it actually made me feel something, in all its exuberance.

then there were the parts where it felt about as frustrating as any given episode of "inspector gadget". the main character is a stupid, jerkish brute with a barely-sketched sense of justice. then he's got this friend (kato) who is a genius at everything. they say that, in hong kong, they called "the green hornet" tv show "the kato show", well, i wonder if they're going to call this "the kato movie", because that's pretty much what it is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:22 am        Reply with quote

remote wrote:
glossolalia wrote:
akira - does the comic ever explain how a bunch of orphans with no jobs got such nice motorcycles?


Those are some pretty good observations (especially the thing about the bikes; now I have to read the comics again to remember)


more or less, this is explained in the comic through casual use of the word "stealing". also, friends who work in bike repair / mod shops. it's their lifestyle, their hobby, and their source of income rolled into one. kaneda's bike is so god damn amazing because he has devoted his entire young life to the procuring of parts and honing of the craft of modding his bike, which he sometimes does for other people for money.

the first time i saw the movie, i assumed this was the case. much later, i read the comics and . . . i feel like this is explained explicitly, if very briefly. it's not too much of a stretcher for the imagination either way, i reckon.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:26 am        Reply with quote

JamesE wrote:
So I'm trying to honour the "watch two unseen films a month" part of my new year's resolution.

...what to watch first? I want to shake this hangover before I do, mind.


man, if i had seen this sooner, i would have told you to keep the hangover and watch "bring me the head of alfredo garcia". i wager anything peckinpah is thoroughly enhanced by a little preexisting nausea.

get drunk and hungover again and watch it back-to-back with "Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid".
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I saw Takashi Miike's "13 Assassins" last night at the San Francisco International Film Festival.

Man! It was pretty spectacular. I am not exactly a fan of Miike's particular style, and I tend to not get along with people who mention loving Takashi Miike within thirty seconds of someone telling them that I had lived in Japan for a long time -- as though, "Hey, you actually went to live in Japan, so that must mean you're an even bigger Takashi Miike fan than I am!" While this has built up a frothy tendency to preemptively exhibit -_- faces at the mention of Miike's name, I have never been able to successfully (attempt to) deny that he is a supremely technically talented director. Couple this inner realization with my oft-voiced opinion that old Japanese samurai movies would be The Best Thing Ever if they had some real modern production values (which I swear isn't as slimy and stupid a sentiment as it might seem in this sentence), and you get a pretty great film!

"13 Assassins" is "derivative" beyond derivative, though it's derivative of The Awesome, and it's so potently captured and confidently realized that I just about threw up at the end. Miike & Bros really nail the portrayal of all the samurai archetypes, and there's this faint, barely visible interjection running throughout the closing scenes: all these people are the same person, on different days. Someone once said that samurai duels in old films are the "most romantic love scenes" in cinema. "13 Assassins" is so together that the sword scenes blend partway into the feeling of one man talking to himself (like Robert DeNiro in "Taxi Driver"). I thought it was interesting -- and awesome -- that the one audience comment I most frequently overheard at the end was "I couldn't tell the characters apart". Of course!

That's a common complaint about the traditional samurai films, though at least this one has a well-defined villain. By "well-defined" I mean we really know very, very little about him as a person. The film does a perfect job of communicating the shadow of historical context -- all we need to know is that the bad guy is the Shogun's younger brother -- and thus legally untouchable -- has been rising in political position, and is a textbook psychopath. Other samurai films -- by which I mean the kind that they play late at night on Japanese TV -- would be too clean to effectively communicate evil. They contain near-endless scenes of men kneeling on the floors in rooms, looking down, speaking in grave tones about how so-and-so must be stopped. People love and revere these old films, though they are disingenuous, in that they are a conservative era's mass-media portrayal of what were dark, sick times. Takashi Miike is not afraid of The Crazy Shit, and he reins it in pretty superbly to communicate very quickly why this guy deserves a whole bunch of death.

The whole final third of the film is a pretty fantastic revenge gangbang with precisely the right amount of soliloquy (that is, very little). And when it comes together, it comes together to the head of a pin. I'm pretty sure you could enjoy the film on the surface level, as a story of hard dudes fucking up other hard dudes, though I'm also pretty confident that I am going to be able to watch this one a dozen more times just to savor the intricacies of the characters.

Anyway -- I see a lot of films (way more than I ever write about, say, in here), and I know I am pegged as a "Japan guy", though let the record show I literally never rave about modern Japanese films. (In fact, I have said before (many times) that modern Japanese mainstream films are shit.) So it's pretty neat -- for me, anyway -- to have found one that I like so much!

I've wanted a straight-up real Miyamoto Musashi film series -- something better than The Samurai Trilogy, which is way too clean -- for a long time. Man, it would be great if Miike did something like that. Though maybe "13 Assassins" is enough.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:03 pm        Reply with quote

i wouldn't call him "mainstream". seriously, "mainstream" japanese film consists mainly of shit you would never hear of or see. just filthy, awful, lower-than-lowest-common-denominator shit. mainstream japanese cinema is like if they made a new spider-man, superman, batman, and iron man film every three months . . . with the same guy playing the lead in every one of them.

i make the distinction because i . . . think that "13 assassins" was "mainstream" when it came out in japan last fall.

i think.
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:17 pm        Reply with quote

luckystrike wrote:
I doubt 99 out of 100 people in Japan are going to know [Kiyoshi Kurosawa's] movies, let alone his name.


99 out of 100 Japanese people don't even know Akira Kurosawa (no relation to Kiyoshi Kurosawa).

I once dated a girl whose last name was Kurosawa. The first time we met and she told me her name, I asked her, as an ice-breaker if she was related to Akira Kurosawa. Of course, she wasn't -- though that didn't mean she didn't necessarily know who the man was -- right?

"Who's that?" she answered.

"Hasn't anyone ever asked you that before?"

"Why would they ask me that?"

"Well, my last name is 'Rogers', so I get people asking me all the time if I am related to Mister Rogers (I am) or Kenny Rogers (I am not), you know, as a conversational ice-breaker."

"Who's Mister Rogers?"

"He's a kids' TV show host."

"Who's Kenny Rogers?"

"He's a country music singer."

"Who's Akira Kurosawa?"

"He's a Japanese film director."

"I've never heard of him," she said. So that was a little depressing. It didn't stop me from seeing her again (and again (for half a year)).

edit: oh my GOD. i just looked her up on facebook. WHOA. there is her picture, right there. it's been six years. she got hella old! and hella hot!
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:10 am        Reply with quote

whoa really?
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:55 am        Reply with quote

if they spelled it alasska i'd probly go check it out (sunglasses face)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:04 pm        Reply with quote

RIP Sean Bean
He Was a True Bro
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:26 pm        Reply with quote

Ghost Dinosaur wrote:
I actually don't really think the movies look shitty per se, though cartoony is I guess an apt description of it. To me they look kinda like '80s Italo horror meets Terry Gilliam or something. Lots of super wide angle shots and low angles and maybe even some crash zooms and basically a feeling of anti-verisimilitude. . . . It seems a pretty obviously thought out strategy to give it a weird otherworldly vibe.


the scene where they're digging up orcs is particularly italo-horror-y / cartoony. i would have liked the movies a little more if the large battle scenes each had at least one weirdo shot like those in them. i consider that scene in the middle of the film a major hook, and it'd be sweet if he would have put a couple more such scenes in there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:01 am        Reply with quote

amazing spider-man looks retarded :-/

watching all three transformers movies in a row this week! tonight is transformers 2!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:20 am        Reply with quote

"captain america" was pretty yay!
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CubaLibre wrote:
It was weirdly emotionally flat - the script went through the three-act motions but I never felt any rising or falling action during the whole thing, just one long stream of Nazi-punching whatever.


how could you come away with the impression that it was about nazi-punching? it was clearly more about nazi-kicking. they could have called the movie "captain nazikicker".

i don't normally defend a film by saying "it was stupid and fun", though i guess that was this. beholding how seriously it took itself was an interesting experience.

the conclusion was neat. the final shot and last line in particular were neat. i feel vaguely flattered that they put an ending like that into a film like this -- and it didn't feel jarring or bizarre.

that they squeezed "the first avenger" into the title of the movie means this is the only movie that they want to nominally associate as an "avengers" lead-in. so they give you this incorruptible jerksih oaf of a good guy, and they give him a single emotion there at the end. it's neat because, if they make this into a franchise (which they are doing), we feel like we know everything about the guy. we feel some ownership over his love story.

what i'm saying is: yay!

also, the way the film snapped from taking-itself-way-too-seriously superhero-in-world-war-two OMG story to whoa 1980s japanese animation alternate world war ii history LOL story within the space of an action montage was pretty cool.

most movies these days escalate into action scenes that are as much fun as watching someone else play a horrible videogame on your television when you'd rather be watching sports. the "captain america" action scenes, however, felt like watching someone play a videogame i wish i could play. so that's . . . got to be worth something.

maybe i should play the game. hmmm.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:58 pm        Reply with quote

i accidentally viewed around thirty seconds of it, and was seized nearly the entire time with an almost uncontrollable urge to do something (anything) else.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:15 am        Reply with quote

Ronk wrote:
i've only seen ip man 1 and 2 and i can't recommend them enough.

both of them are on instant watch.


they are also both on instant boner!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:24 pm        Reply with quote

going to see steven soderbergh's "CONTAGION" friday night because: why not!

then, to maintain my street cred i am going to go see a remastered "the man who fell to earth" on saturday night at the landmark theater in berkeley! it's a pretty hokey film, though it should be awesome to see it in a nice theater.
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i'll have my 3D glasses on 8-3
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