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glossolalia



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:22 pm        Reply with quote

movies i watched recently

a zed and two noughts - one of the nicest-looking movies i've ever seen, but the story was just a bunch of pet motifs randomly colliding with each other like i'm supposed to scratch my chin and admire the duality of it all. definitely want to see more sacha vierny-shot movies now though

ghost in the shell - more dumb anime shit than i remember, there's a difference between subtle and anticlimactic, kaiba's better for playing the ideas out instead of endlessly pontificating on them

blade runner - glad i waited to watch this on a nice tv. dialogue's a little hamfisted at times (and yeah i saw the final cut) but everything else about it is perfect

shaun of the dead - don't think i've ever seen a movie this funny with direction this great. i'm glad that someone with this good of an eye is making mainstream comedies. probably gonna buy scott pilgrim on blu-ray

dead ringers - awesome, i was so sure jeremy irons was two actors that it bugged me that they seemed to have clearly different facial structure. i'm retarded. the twins' relationship was surprisingly easy to sympathize with, they were actual characters instead of A Set of Ideas About Twins which makes greenaway trying to grab credit for it through zed it all the more obnoxious
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glossolalia



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:41 pm        Reply with quote

i know. i've failed you.

vision wrote:
it's Nyman what spins it skyward

the music that plays during the decomposition films is terrifying.
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glossolalia



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:55 pm        Reply with quote

This Machine Kills Fascis wrote:
I wouldn't call it anime shit, so much as pseudo-intellectual yammering.

by "dumb anime shit" i was referring to the horrendous period joke at the beginning and the gratuitous robo-nudity. the way people talk about it i always thought the GitS franchise had a reputation of being above that stuff.

also whenever anyone uses some crazy technology, someone shouts the full name of that technology in surprise. which could be charming elsewhere but not in something that takes itself this seriously.
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glossolalia



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:12 pm        Reply with quote

speaking of film criticism i've always admired how david bordwell can talk about stuff like the average number of frames per cut and not sound like a horrible aspie.
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glossolalia



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:26 am        Reply with quote

well i've watched hot fuzz three times all the way through and various parts over and over in the last week. the first time through i was underwhelmed at an hour in and couldn't see it going on another hour, but the way everything gets set up and then blown apart is so good.
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glossolalia



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:17 pm        Reply with quote

Tulpa wrote:
glossolalia wrote:
well i've watched hot fuzz three times all the way through and various parts over and over in the last week. the first time through i was underwhelmed at an hour in and couldn't see it going on another hour, but the way everything gets set up and then blown apart is so good.


Yeah this is how I felt. I was a bit underwhelmed on my first viewing but I really enjoyed the intricate plotting afterwards.

the scene where he meets the townsfolk while jogging to the tune of "the village green preservation society" is a perfectly typical fish-out-of-water-comedy idyll the first time around but the second time it gave me chills.
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glossolalia



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:32 am        Reply with quote

B coma wrote:
I was relieved that he wasn't some kind of angstfilled teenage stereotype.
man i thought that was EXACTLY what he was. a dull douchebag with no sense of wonder or humor besides rattling off painful action movie quips. i'm surprised lasseter didn't do something about that when they brought him in to fix the script. maybe it was all the actor.

i expected olivia wilde's character to be more of a badass aeon flux type. it was almost creepy that she was the romantic interest given how mentally childlike she was. also one of the romantic moments is that she compares herself to the guy's dog. olivia wilde is so hot though.

probably less than half the movie was actually in 3d and the stuff that was looked like paper cutouts. i assume it was done in post-processing because you can't have a 2d visual effects movie after avatar.

the music that sounded like daft punk was great, it looked nice, jeff bridges was a ridiculous hippie, that was about all i got out of it.
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glossolalia



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:28 pm        Reply with quote

i went into the black swan really wanting to like it (haven't seen an arofonsky movie before btw.) portman's performance was great and the way her mother's relationship was handled and the early signs of something going wrong were very well done, but its treatment of mental breakdown was embarrassingly trite for serious psychological horror (overly literal, Lost-caliber music stings) and it didn't work for me as camp either.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:29 pm        Reply with quote

evnvnv wrote:
This Machine Kills Fascis wrote:
evnvnv wrote:
I get you, but I find it even more disturbing when criticism masquerades as some kind of objective (or at least populist) analysis

Well, it's not like you can write "IMHO" at the beginning of every sentence in a review. It's definitely lame to pass off an opinion as somehow "objective," but at the same time writing that lacks authority (opinions consistently qualified with "I thought," "in my opinion," "felt like," etc) is tiresome in professional writing. As a critic, I think it's your job to state your opinion as if it were fact and then try to validate it as an assertion, with the assumption that the reader will understand that ultimately you understand that you are only expressing your own perspective.


Yeah you are very right. In fact I forgot the point I was originally trying to make. I think it had something to do with "taste" and popular opinion, but whatever.
i can't think of a movie critic example but is it more like when that one game reviewer voted fallout 3 the best game of the year because even though he didn't like it that much, the rest of the staff did, and bioware "proved they know what they're doing" or some equally meaningless phrase
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:07 pm        Reply with quote

point break - cinema's most tragic bromance and probably the most artful execution of this concept/script possible, which makes it kind of the perfect early 90s cultural artifact.

akira - hadn't watched it since i was about 17 and surprisingly enjoyed it a lot more this time around. tulpa i haven't read the comic and didn't remember about 90% of what happened but thought it was totally coherent except for how akira and everybody else gets from the satellite area to the olympic dome. i'm sure there's more explanation of the espers and such in the comic but i didn't really want that.

probably one of the most hateful movies i've ever seen; strange how it seems to side with the idea that the corrupt city deserves a purging, and loves showing the blood of innocents, yet we're also asked to sympathize with amoral teenage thrill-seekers. does the comic ever explain how a bunch of orphans with no jobs got such nice motorcycles? calling the soundtrack perfect almost seems like doing it a disservice because instead of merely complimenting the scenes it often pushes them somewhere completely different and better (especially the opening bike race.)


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:38 pm        Reply with quote

i dunno, the doctor's explicitly pro-transhumanist, and his heedless scientific curiosity sets the main conflict in motion and ultimately gets him killed while the ultraconservative colonel is saved. i'm usually against such square readings, but the almost parable-like quality of subplots like that or the mayor(?) and the revolutionary make it hard to avoid. so

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It's a bit of a power fantasy for angst-ridden youth


yeah i think it's probably best viewed as a semi-celebratory exploration of the spirit of adolescent rebellion, as even the colonel's actions could be explained as such.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:45 pm        Reply with quote

spinach wrote:
glossolalia wrote:
does the comic ever explain how a bunch of orphans with no jobs got such nice motorcycles?

they stole them.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:18 pm        Reply with quote

i did a first pass of the screenplay when i was 12 but they totally gutted my creative vision
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:24 am        Reply with quote

is there an edit of Crash with just the Ludacris parts. it might be a cute little short film.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:58 am        Reply with quote

guys making fun of Randians is too easy let's make fun of Crash. i guess that's pretty easy too.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:50 am        Reply with quote

i just woke up from a dream where i watched an extended trailer for a movie about a married woman coping with total amnesia and the petty squabbles of a pair of airheaded androgynous teenage twins who were in some way loosely connected to her. it looked like a gauzier wes anderson film. long shot but i might as well ask, does this actually exist or did i just dream it.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:58 am        Reply with quote

really thought i was gonna come in here and see dracko jerking it to this cam rip of the new The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo trailer.



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:46 pm        Reply with quote

thou dost protesteth too much
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:41 pm        Reply with quote

i watched face/off. i liked how what would have been the big threat in a more generic action movie is neutralized about an hour in by the villain. near the end there's a six-way mexican standoff to which john travolta-as-nicholas cage cackles "ha ha! wee! what a predicament!" there are a lot of (sometimes intentionally) funny indulgences playing off the main concept. margaret cho makes a joke at one point but it's pretty easy to ignore. most of the action is pretty dull but it's still one of the better high-concept overlong summer action movies i've seen.
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