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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:49 pm        Reply with quote

nedge, melodrama is the shit when it's done right and deserves a place in more films. most stabs at subtlety land you either wooden acting or alex murphy in the first scene of robocop (he wore his every quirk on his sleeve since he was gonna die soon and the audience needed some way to identify with the human in robocop later)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:50 pm        Reply with quote

Renfrew wrote:
She's also a perfect human being!

aw hell yeah
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:16 pm        Reply with quote

guys, i really like ridley scott flicks. although i appreciate blade runner, i don't really like it as much as some of the stuff it inspired. i guess i prefer my ridley flicks trashy?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:29 pm        Reply with quote

glossolalia wrote:
we're... asked to sympathize with teenage degenerates. does the comic ever explain how a bunch of orphans with no jobs got such nice motorcycles?

they stole them.

the sympathy has less to do with their overall degeneracy and more to do with the way the people around them never cared for them except when they could be useful -- they're all orphans and the favored among them were taken in for special care. this is also very much a movie about postwar japan and a response to the incredibly shitty things kids were forced to do during and after the war which still rendered two japanese cities uninhabitable. there is a reason it opens with a nuclear explosion.

not to say it isn't power fantasy -- it totally is -- there's just a bit more to it than the usual generic teen rebellion.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:33 pm        Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
I don't buy James McAvoy as Charles Xavier. Wanted doesn't help none.

i think they cast entirely by eyebrow, and that guy's got it. not sure i can accept a professor x who isn't bald, even in his immediate postadolescence. for a bunch of other reasons, this looks pretty terrible, i'll probably watch it and feel terrible. pretty sure i don't like bryan singer. or maybe it's all the other guys that have their hands in superhero movies. why are comic book movies such a big deal, anyway? nobody reads them, why so many concessions to the bullshit particulars of universe continuity?
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 4:10 pm        Reply with quote

i've been waiting for this my whole life.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:28 pm        Reply with quote

This Machine Kills Fascis wrote:
Huh. I never viewed it as a one-to-one metaphor for Civil Rights.

of course it's not one to one, but yeah, it is modeled after the civil rights movement, magneto and professor x in their politics representing the likes of malcolm x and martin luther king, jr., respectively. the manifestation of mutant powers was handled more as coming out. these things added relevance, and the x-men are pretty much the first superhero team that, rather than being a bunch of separately created heroes brought together in a crossover, was made from the ground up as a team with a specific purpose. at the same time, doom patrol came out, which was another superhero team wherein the powers of the various heroes was as much a curse as a gift, but without the added relevance of mass movement for a model, it just didn't catch on near as well.

magneto actually goes on to start a nation of mutants, conjuring the image of black nationalists such as marcus garvey. xavier started a school instead, which in our context of a civil rights movement, is kin to the various historically black colleges and universities of the south, which tended to foster a more integrationist attitude.

others have popped up, toting completely different philosophies, but it all started as magneto vs. the professor vs. a world that didn't want either of them (though the series was never without its sympathetic humans).
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Ghost Dinosaur wrote:
I agree with most of what you said, but I don't know, I think the older I get the more I think the whole Professor X as thinly-veiled MLK Jr. to Magneto's thinly-veiled Malcolm X is pretty silly and the whole mutant existence as Civil Rights metaphor is pretty dumb and reductionist and possibly even a little offensive in the way it ignores culture and history for an easily digestible and pretty much meaningless mantra. It feels like exactly the kind of well-meaning white liberalism that Malcolm X was railing against.

new x-men handles it probably better than anything. lee mostly used the movement as a shorthand so people would be up to speed right off the bat -- a few of his early marvel creations were him playing around with the headlines.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:39 pm        Reply with quote

no ebrey monster squad is better than goonies
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:26 pm        Reply with quote

Texican Rude wrote:
After Hours is a really great forgotten Scorese. Neat score, Neat shots, fun journey.

oh hell yes
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:03 am        Reply with quote

Mr.Stevenson wrote:
Spike Lee to direct remake of Park Chan-wook's 'Oldboy'


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The "Oldboy" gig is one of two Lee projects in the news this week. According to the website Blackfilm, Lee is directing another feature film called "Red Hook Summer," in which he'll reprise the role of Mookie he played in his 1989 career breakout hit, "Do the Right Thing." Lee's reps at CAA did not immediately return a call to confirm the project.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/07/spike-lee-to-direct-remake-of-chan-wook-parks-oldboy-south-korea.html

Yup.

oh wow
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:43 pm        Reply with quote

costel wrote:
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/07/my_name_is_michael_bay_and_i_j.html Incredible read right here.

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explosition, not exposition. that's how we do.
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