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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Cobrastan
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:47 pm Post subject: Raters Gonna Rate |
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Hello, selectbutton peoples!!
As I do every year, I lost interest in video games over the summer and became obsessed with pinball machines, but now it's nice and cold again and my thoughts return to the video games.
Things had been getting kinda weird at work, and I also was ready for a great leap forward, so a couple months ago I quit my job and went to work full-time on an exciting new web thingy.
reccr, the amazing automated video game recommender, is that thingy! Please come check it out, and use it, and bang on it, and let me know what you think of it, and what exciting things it needs in the future (I already have lots of exciting plans for it, but I'm always open to more suggestions)!
A few of you might remember the game recommender I was working on a few years ago; this is a complete rebuild of that from the ground up in Rails, and some of you (BenRen) will be happy to hear that the rating widget is now built entirely in CSS rather than Flash.
Also, what's this new "curate topic" option? _________________
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Takashi

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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Cobrastan
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:44 pm |
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thanks, Takashi! Yeah, social aspect-ness has been requested a lot, so I think it's the next part I'm going to work on.
What sort of social aspects would you most like to see? _________________
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BotageL pretty anime princess

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: *fidget*
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:44 pm |
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FYI curation is a feature which lets you basically become moderator of your own thread, with a very obvious box around the topic title to warn everyone of impending moderhation. _________________
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:57 pm |
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ah, ok, thanks botagel! _________________
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Zigfried

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:07 pm |
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Neat little site. I'll let you know suggestions later... for now I'll just run around rating and adding games as I have time to do so. (I rated In the Pit and Crosstown first!) _________________ Unlimited Zig Works |
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:13 pm |
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Personally, I prefer sites to not be bogged down by all this social crap. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Balmer
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nothingxs various methods of escape

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Miami, FL
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Cobrastan
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:47 pm |
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hooray! thanks for all the ratings, guys!
A bunch of Phoenix Wright games have now bubbled up to the top of my recommendation list, but my #1 recommendation is still ExciteBots.
BenRen, when I add social crap I'll keep it as opt-out-able as possible for you. :) _________________
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Cobrastan
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:56 pm |
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oops, Fahrenheit was in there twice and I zapped one that had two ratings, so if you rated it please rate it again. :) _________________
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Tulpa

Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:14 pm |
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Hey this is pretty neat. Will you be adding any earlier consoles? _________________
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Cobrastan
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:38 pm |
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Thanks! I just added PS2, Xbox, GC, and GBA over the last couple of days, and I'm not sure yet if I want to go earlier than that. If I do, I might just add the platform and not import the entire catalog of games, and just let people add the games they want to rate like I did with GBA. _________________
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Tulpa

Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:42 pm |
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Oh I didn't know that capability was there! That's pretty great. _________________
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shnozlak

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: pushing crates in the sewer level
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:12 pm |
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| Tulpa wrote: |
| Hey this is pretty neat. Will you be adding any earlier consoles? |
What tulpa said.
The "submit a new entry" feature looks like a great inlet for confusion and redundancy.
You might also allow people to add single words to a tag cloud for each game that you can cross reference.
Stats might also be good but would potentially mire up the simplicity of your design.
search needs work. EX "Killer(space)7" no results "Killer7" correct results.
Update: so far this thing is recommending me games Ive been told I need to play was already thinking about playing. Pretty sweet. _________________ Mixtapes galore ~ VG MUSIC
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Cobrastan
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:38 pm |
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glad to hear that the recommendations are good! :)
I have to approve all submissions before they go in, so hopefully I'll catch most of the confusion and redundancy. The site does track how many submissions you've had accepted, so once I start implementing social aspects I'll make that a "public" stat, but I want to avoid awarding people just for rating lots of games because I'm worried that I'll get people randomly rating things they haven't played just to get their "number of games rated" up.
Tags are a good idea; I'm planning way down the road to at least tag games by developer.
Search definitely does need some work; right now it's very very basic and literal. I should probably bump that to the top of my to-do list!
Thanks for the feedback! _________________
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scratchmonkey Final Finasty

Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:06 am |
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When I tried to login via Facebook, and then was all "No, Don't Allow", it dumps me to:
http://reccr.comnew/
Which ah, doesn't resolve. Might be a temporary thing, I'm guessing that might not be the case as that URL doesn't look right at all. |
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nothingxs various methods of escape

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Miami, FL
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Cobrastan
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:51 am |
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| nothingxs wrote: |
| I can't find Protect Me Knight. This makes me sad. |
add it!! XBLIG is one of the platforms that's in there! :)
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When I tried to login via Facebook, and then was all "No, Don't Allow", it dumps me to:
http://reccr.comnew/
Which ah, doesn't resolve. Might be a temporary thing, I'm guessing that might not be the case as that URL doesn't look right at all. |
yeah, that doesn't sound right. I'll look into it. thanks!
EDIT: Fixed! Thanks! _________________

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nothingxs various methods of escape

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Pro-Apocalyptic

Joined: 03 Dec 2010 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:04 am |
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| Planescape: Torment is missing. I'm a little confused by that. |
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:29 am |
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| nothingxs wrote: |
| wait how do i add games what the f |
right now the button to submit new games shows up when you search and there's either zero results or more than one result. I realize that's not the best place for it (or at least not the best ONLY place for it), but I'm not sure at this point where else to put it. _________________
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Persona-sama artistically unofficial

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: cosmic eternity
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:59 am |
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Is there a way to specifically remove reccr from recommending me a genre of games in general? Because I am really getting tired of ignoring every FPS game popping up.
Also there seems to be a weird problem where if you're on an individual game's page and then try rating a game in the "similar games" section to the right, the response to that selection will appear below the game of the page (on the left), not of what you rated (on the right). _________________
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Cobrastan
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:07 pm |
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| Persona-sama wrote: |
Is there a way to specifically remove reccr from recommending me a genre of games in general? Because I am really getting tired of ignoring every FPS game popping up.
Also there seems to be a weird problem where if you're on an individual game's page and then try rating a game in the "similar games" section to the right, the response to that selection will appear below the game of the page (on the left), not of what you rated (on the right). |
bug fixed! thanks, persona!
there aren't any genre tags yet, so for now ignoring is your only option (or giving low ratings to any that you might've played and hated). _________________
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Persona-sama artistically unofficial

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: cosmic eternity
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:12 pm |
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Is rating games 1 star more efficient than ignoring them? I'm getting lots of games I have no interest in suggested to me by the "think you might like this maybe" option but I feel like ignoring them isn't enough. _________________
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Dracko a sapphist fool

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:06 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| Personally, I prefer life to not be bogged down by all this social crap. |
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remote

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:47 pm |
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This is neat. I kind of wish the little PS3 logo was the newer, nicer slim version and not the ugly Spider-man font. Small nitpick.
Rating lots of stuff! _________________
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:06 pm |
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can you point me to the new ps3 logo? I thought the spiderman one was the "official" one. _________________
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remote

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:10 pm |
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Clearest I can find on a quick google search. You'll see this logo on newer games, and the PS3 slim.
You weren't wrong or anything -- just a personal taste thing and a suggestion. Everything looks great, otherwise. _________________
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remote

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:42 pm |
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Also: might you be adding the PC format at any time, or is this going to be strictly console-focused? _________________
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Tulpa

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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:44 pm |
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PC is already there, tagged as either Windows or OSX _________________
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remote

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:45 pm |
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Oops! Well, that's even better. _________________
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remote

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:06 am |
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Also wondering: what about allowing users to rank a specific, say, top 5? Or top 10, 20, whatever?
Just something to increase the specificity of the recs.
That said, are ratings compared from user to user, or just between how similarly games are ranked?
I get some odd recs, e.g. "If you like Ico, you might like Rock Band 3...!" _________________
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SuperWes

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:06 am |
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I'm not sure if it's there, but the user should be able to specify what systems they own and get only recommendations within those systems. I would also think that system should play a role in the algorithm. If I prefer games on a certain system the rarer should recognize that.
-Wes _________________
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Tulpa

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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:26 am |
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You can indeed filter by platforms _________________
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ghostribbon

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:19 am |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| Personally, I prefer sites to not be bogged down by all this social crap. |
Wait, do I have to have a Facebook/Twitter account to use this site?
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:08 pm |
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| ghostribbon wrote: |
| BenoitRen wrote: |
| Personally, I prefer sites to not be bogged down by all this social crap. |
Wait, do I have to have a Facebook/Twitter account to use this site?
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right now, yes. I've only gotten one request so far to add openID, and that was from someone who signed up with his Twitter account immediately after making the request. _________________
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:07 pm |
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I didn't even realise that you needed that. That's bullshit. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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remote

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:48 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| I didn't even realise that you needed that. That's bullshit. |
If you didn't realize, you probably didn't use the site -- in which case, why would you care at all? _________________
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:53 pm |
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Why I would care? Because 1) I'm a web developer, and 2) social networks gaining a foothold into unrelated websites is a disturbing precedent. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
| udoschuermann wrote: |
| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:18 pm |
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I'm sorry you feel that way, BenRen. I was looking forward to your feedback, specifically any CSS / HTML5 gotchas since I know you're a contributor on SeaMonkey.
There's a note at the bottom of the sign-in page that explains why reccr uses Facebook and Twitter for authentication. _________________
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