[luvcraft]

linking to mobygames is a great idea! I'll add that to the to-do list. I'm also moving away from the open authentication thing, and am trying to think of the best way to add just normal logins while also integrating open authentication for the 500+ users who are already on there. Should be pretty easy to do, actually.

Glad to hear that it's giving you good recommendations! :)
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[luvcraft]

mobygames links are in! thanks for the suggestion! I'm wondering if I should throw out the tigdb links; they seem pretty hit or miss.
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[protoblax]

Hey luvcraft! Any chance something of this caliber could be set up for books? Netflix has got movies and TV covered, and Pandora's got music, but I don't think any site like this exists for that.
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[luvcraft]

[protoblax]

Neat site, never heard of it! Yeah, it's a good idea to keep reccr game-focused.
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[TheUser]

Which jerk keeps adding all the shitty iOS games? Oh... :(

[luvcraft]

hahaha
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[Ymer]

Any chance of adding a Least Recommended list as well? Mostly as a curiosity but also as a way to change the recommendations up a little in case you actually did like one of the games there.
Also, IGNORE just makes sure that the specific game doesn't show up in your recommendations, right? It doesn't make guesses as to WHY I may be ignoring it and make assumptions that I don't want any more games like it?
And finally, is the "Add Game" button accessible in some other way then the link hidden in the middle of the FAQ or am I just missing it? If not, then you definitely ought to make it a bit more prominent then it is.

[Bennett]

If there's going to be Turbografx games, is there some reason we can't have Amiga/c64/spectrum/amstrad/atari games? I would love some decent recommendations on that front.

Great website, btw.

Love the idea of a least recommended list.

When I'm suggesting new games, I find the long list of system icons pretty hard to tell apart. A text dropdown might make more sense. It could default to the last-used system.

[protoblax]

I too cast my vote for a least recommended page. Turning our collective noses down at the games least suited to us is one of our favorite pastimes, and it would be nice to algorithmically verify this activity.
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[luvcraft]

[Bennett]

Also needs DOS games and Arcade games.

An advanced feature that would be really fantastic is if games from the same franchise could be stacked together underneath the highest-scored entry in that franchise. Right now my recommendation page features a few too many Civilization games. I think it might be hard to implement elegantly, but it would be great. It's more important for a videogame recommender than for a movie one.

Quite often I see a game that I haven't played but I know I would hate, and I click the 'Why?' button and it goes: 'Because you liked Half Life 2, Ocarina of Time, and Super Mario 64'. I'm like, did anyone NOT recommend those games? Is it possible there is a data loophole here? Universal acclaim is another thing that makes games a bit different than movies.

Does your algorithm take negative valence into account right now, or is it everything taken as a degree of positive? If I give a game one star, it's because I hated it. One thing I always felt was missing from the Netflix system was that it didn't respond to this. I want to see things like "Other people who hated Halo liked Jagged Alliance 2", for example.

[luvcraft]

yeah, "negative similarity" is taken into account. For instance, Diablo II and Tony Hawk's Proving Ground currently have 9% similarity, so if you give one of those games 5 stars, reccr will weigh that as 1 star toward the other game when it's factoring your recommendations.

that might be part of why you're seeing universally-loved games on the "why bar" so much; if you're giving a lot of low ratings, it could be recommending things based on your "hates" more than your "likes", but the why bar is designed to look for games with high similarity that you've rated highly, and those are the games with the best match for "games you liked" and "games similar to this one".
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[Bennett]

Would it be hard to make it say 'Because you hated...' instead of 'Because you loved...' in these cases?

[luvcraft]

[Bennett]

Yeah, you could be right.

Hopefully I managed to push through a few new users from Twitter. Else what is twitter good for?

[luvcraft]

Bennett: GIRP has now been submitted to reccr twice, but I'm rejecting all browser games because I don't want every single flash game on New Grounds and Kongregate in reccr. If you publish a standalone, however, even if it's just a standalone flash exe, I'll add it to reccr. Thanks! :)
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[Bennett]

I'm not the one submitting it, so don't worry about it.

[luvcraft]

[Iacus]

It would be nice to be able to filter the platform-specific lists to include only exclusive titles.

When I want to take a look at what good games are there for the classic Xbox, I don't really want to see HL2 and Metal Gear at the top.

Because I'm guessing that having a "best version of a multiplatform game" feature would mess up the scores and make voting too complicated, no?
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[luvcraft]

yeah, the platform-exclusive thing would be really nice, but kinda tricky with the way things are currently set up. I'd really like it to though; it would help me put together my list of PS3-exclusive games that I need to convince myself to buy a PS3. :)
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[luvcraft]

my current list of games I'm curious about and that SB seems to like but that don't have enough ratings on reccr to generate recommendations yet:

- Bullet Witch
- Knights Contract
- MVC3 (I can't believe this doesn't have enough ratings yet!)
- Viking
- NIN2-JUMP
- Bangai-Oh HD
- Monster Tale

[glossolalia]

i just rated monster tale. this is generating a lot more interesting recommendations for me now than it did in the first few months. i do wish there was some kind of categorization system beyond tags that factored into recommendations and/or could be used to filter them, and that arcade and more older games were included. but i'm definitely happy with how it's going and i think i'll be a regular user from now on.

[luvcraft]

hooray! Thanks, gloss! I've been thinking about adding arcade games; adding Neo Geo games was sort of a partial concession in that direction. How old of systems do you want to see?
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[glossolalia]

honestly, if it recommended me Adventure and Raiders of the Lost Ark because i said i like Majora's Mask i'd think that was pretty cool. but i'd find a more comprehensive listing of late-80s-and-up console/arcade/notable pc games more useful than a surface sampling starting from farther back.

for me it's like this: if i'm already interested in something and there's a low monetary/hassle investment to play it, i'll just give it a shot. if there's a high investment, then stuff like this place is going to far outweigh an automated recommendation. the greatest value i see from reccr is alerting me to/reminding me of the existence of intriguing things that require a fairly low investment to play. so lesser-known console games, indie freeware, mobile games, gog stuff, that's what i'd like to see more of. i understand browser-only games seem like a slippery slope but i think if some level of notability can be established, maybe with a link to a gamasutra feature or recommendation on a major indie gaming blog, they should be included.

[Bowling Pin]

I'm sorry for adding a ton of games in the past month or so. Recently I've been amusing myself by going on a tag spree, trying to gather many games under genre. I'm amused that Deus Ex is second only to MOTHER3 for best RPG of all time, and that Fatal Frame II is a better FPS than S.T.A.L.K.E.R., F.E.A.R., or BioShock.

I also cracked open my long sealed copy of Bullet Witch, just to rate it.

[remote]

[drobe]

I rated bullet witch, but none of the available tags seem capable of describing it. It and any of the Gears of War games.
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[luvcraft]

[luvcraft]

I just added platform buttons to the "your recommendations" page, so you can quickly get recommendations for specific platforms. Thanks, whoever suggested that!
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[luvcraft]

yeah, I need to figure out a better way to do the whole saved queue thing anyway; it doesn't really work very well as-is. I mean, it works fine technically, but it's not very useful.
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[protoblax]

Oh no! Watch out luvcraft!

http://www.decide-o-tron.com/
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[luvcraft]

do not speak to me of decideotron.

:(
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[CubaLibre]

This is like when your favorite mom&pop store gets Walmarted.
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Let's Play, starring me.

[protoblax]

I say that reccr still has value. It probably has a higher percentage of users behind it who actually like good video games.
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[Ymer]

Celebrity top 10 lists was just what was missing all along!

This sucks though.

[protoblax]

You could even rebrand it as the indie alternative game recommendation service if you like.
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[remote]

Either way I'll stick with reccr because it's not branded by Penny Arcade.
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letterboxd | last.fm | steam

[luvcraft]

Aww, thanks for all the support, you guys. :)

I actually had a very cordial email exchange with Robert Khoo this morning, and he promises we'll talk more once the super-craziness of PAX is behind him.

Over the next few days I'll try to juggle between promoting Slider and trying to get more promotion for reccr.

Further ruminations are here! :)
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[TheUser]

I don't know much about Decide-o-tron, but I know that reccr has shown me great games and been a pleasure to use.