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The King



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:09 am        Reply with quote

Absolute objective morality probably takes third place.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:14 am        Reply with quote

diplo wrote:
handsomenattou wrote:
The greatest painting, book, and music that will ever be made have likely already been made.


i sure hope not. good thing nothing suggests that this has happened!


Well... yeah... I suppose our current masterpieces in these mediums could possibly be topped. But I feel like the blueprint for these older mediums have mostly been established.

I can understand if you don't agree with that, but I think we can agree that video games, more than any other genre, is ripe for new defining works.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:20 am        Reply with quote

diplo wrote:
The Greatest X is the most boring myth humans have yet thought up


Yeah, and searching for it is mostly a vain exercise, but... come on, did you notice what this thread is about?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:27 am        Reply with quote

As far as I can tell, this thread is not IGN's Most Important Videogames of All Time. It is people choosing the games they like the most from each year. It doesn't seem to make any claims of objectivity or of being a serious pursuit of an impregnable canon (which is what The Greatest Works are almost always couched in).

In conclusion, The Best Game Ever Made

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The King



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:38 am        Reply with quote

I would place myself firmly in Diplo's camp if I thought there was actually an opposing camp.
All the 'Greatest X' talk is fairly tongue in cheek stuff we're playing at because we ran out of years.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:39 am        Reply with quote

analogos wrote:
I like ninja gaiden
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:40 am        Reply with quote

analogos wrote:
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I like ninja gaiden


YES! me too.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:44 am        Reply with quote

diplo wrote:
As far as I can tell, this thread is not IGN's Most Important Videogames of All Time. It is people choosing the games they like the most from each year. It doesn't seem to make any claims of objectivity or of being a serious pursuit of an impregnable canon (which is what The Greatest Works are almost always couched in).


Well then, I guess I'll rephrase... The greatest painting, novel, and musical work (to me) have likely already been made. I still hold out hope that I will have a new greatest game of all-time (to me) in the coming years.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:47 am        Reply with quote

The King wrote:
I would place myself firmly in Diplo's camp if I thought there was actually an opposing camp.
All the 'Greatest X' talk is fairly tongue in cheek stuff we're playing at because we ran out of years.


My real point was just that I believe video games will actually get better some day. My sensationalist point about other mediums being dead was... not well thought out in retrospect
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:52 am        Reply with quote

i like games
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my favrit game is bioshoc... when i play dis game i feel very tired of breathe... it has all the devols of sadness.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:01 am        Reply with quote

I cried when Aeris-chan died :'(
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:03 am        Reply with quote

diplo wrote:
As far as I can tell, this thread is not IGN's Most Important Videogames of All Time. It is people choosing the games they like the most from each year. It doesn't seem to make any claims of objectivity or of being a serious pursuit of an impregnable canon (which is what The Greatest Works are almost always couched in).


While I absolutely agree, I'm sure I made some small effort (conscious or not) to mostly choose haute-middlebrow games that weren't too off-the-wall, and which made for a reasonably balanced representation of the medium when taken together. I might be a bit of a special type in that I'm able to meaningfully shift my own opinions so that they're in line with me choosing a reasonably even number of Eastern and Western titles, not doubling up on Itoi or Ueda, and representing the latter half of the 90s exactly as they are remembered by my Windows start menu "games" folder -- I really do have a Kawaks shortcut labeled as Twinklestar Sprites, nullDC as Soul Calibur, Worms Armageddon, You Don't Know Jack, and not much else -- but, taken as this composite whole (which I note again has aged rather well; there's a reason I opted for the "uniquely perfect" language, as I do have a slightly irrational bias toward purity of concept), videogames have done okay by me.

As an expansion of the (tired) "format vs. genre" argument against Kafka, I'd like to cite my choice of F-Zero GX for 2003: it's probably the least accessible or forgiving game from my entire list, from a fairly marginal genre, but I still think it's just about the best of its kind, and I'm not really interested in anybody improving upon it. It frankly seems as though the only way to "improve" on F-Zero GX would be to make the racing bit just one component of some Kafkaesque (can we please start using this in such a patently Wrong context?) Ur-Videogame, and the medium really isn't suited to that.

If anything, I'm now even more keen on calling Mother 3 the Best Videogame Ever Made. It also happens to be my favourite.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:27 am        Reply with quote

I mean, if you don't think Tetris is a timeless classic, Tetris is a timeless classic.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:16 am        Reply with quote

Toptube wrote:
T. wrote:
what in the world (yes, the world) is more actually great than...pool of radiance? not much, tbh.


A lot of things. Like every single other videogame >_>


no, the '88 ssi game. the one actually named in this thread. jesus christ :/
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:29 pm        Reply with quote

I can't really get into 3d ninja gaiden, which oddly i find kinda sad.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:35 pm        Reply with quote

Interstellar Dinghy wrote:
Street Fighter 4 is really bad and I'm kind of confused how it even made people interested in the genre again.

The amount of work it forces you to put in for such little return (OH MAN NOW I CAN LINK A LOW PUNCH INTO A MEDIUM PUNCH) doesn't seem like it would appeal to casual players at all, Capcom's boring adherence to joke character inclusion, and its lack of innovation (probably what actually got people in: same old, same old).

I honestly can't see a single redeeming quality in it.

I'm a gamer who Just Doesn't Play Fighting Games. I watched the SF4 tournament on Evo and had fun doing so; I could understand what was going on. Not so with almost any other fighter. So, that's why it's popular with "casuals" (me) (not that I bought it or play it or anything).

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Cuba, I didn't really enjoy the first k&l but that makes me want to play the new one - i find games discussing other games through their mechanics intriguing. I loved the first no more heroes discourse ib the state of modern gaming, is dog days as intentional in what it does?

It's better because it's not as obvious. Whether it's "intentional" is pretty irrelevant.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:39 am        Reply with quote

People don't like SF4 because it's very slow & dry, risk-reward for nearly any offensive is fucked up. I've put a ton of time into it and it changed the fighting game scene locally from half a dozen guys in someones front room to a steady 50+ tournament turnout but I'm absolutely in the camp that it's weaker than ST.

That said I'm always confused when people complain about links and the execution barrier as that side is definitely way easier than most fightcons (see: the enormous reversal window)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:59 am        Reply with quote

dog days is actually pretty fun to play despite the fact that it is constantly calling attention to how horrific and stupid the actions of the player characters are.

it succeeds at several other things aside from being a piece of trite game criticism and i would rank it far above no more heroes just based on that alone.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:10 am        Reply with quote

gooktime wrote:
That said I'm always confused when people complain about links and the execution barrier as that side is definitely way easier than most fightcons (see: the enormous reversal window)


The links in SF4 are really really ridiculously strict, and the sloppy input detection just kind of inverts the input barrier. Instead of trying to get your moves to come out, it's kind of a struggle to get some moves NOT to come out. MvC3 seems to have this problem too, see: high level tournaments where top players accidentally do dragon punch supers instead of hadoken supers.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:31 pm        Reply with quote

I'm with you on sloppy input detection; a lot of it (in SF4 at least) is down to the shortcuts, which ties in with what I was saying before. They made it as easy as possible to mash out a reversal dp.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:13 pm        Reply with quote

Wow, 2010 already? Let's see...



Whew, that was easy!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:24 pm        Reply with quote

deadly premonition for goty 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:22 pm        Reply with quote

Bennett wrote:

Sissyfight 2000, first best web-based realtime multiplayer game. Remember Macy Gray?


A game I worked on made the list. I can die happy.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:39 pm        Reply with quote

sooooo Demon's Souls 2010?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:29 pm        Reply with quote

armed police catrider wrote:
sooooo Demon's Souls 2010?

JPN and US releases were 2009.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:59 pm        Reply with quote



Vanquish was GOTY 2010. It did something genuinely transformative to the cover shooter genre. Contrast that with Dog Days which does very little with it at all and rides on the non-ludological elements heavily to generate interest. Vanquish made leaving cover in style the core element; other previously trite concepts like bullet time were re-purposed to create an insane, churning world of danger and excitement. There's actual vision there as to how this should all work beyond going through the motions of move and shoot. The player is given a toolbox of weapons, actions and routes to string together as they please and the result is something so visceral that I could play it for 15 minutes, pause and leave the controller perfectly satisfied and only then realise my hands were shaking from the adrenaline rush. I haven't thrilled like that since I was a kid fumbling for coins to slam in before the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles machine counted me out for ten.

Admittedly, the single player campaign falls off before the end just a little. It looks so good though - in it's own way, it looks as good as Kayne and Lynch 2. The implausibility of a near-future super-structure in Earth orbit was a small price to pay for that kind of techno-industrial consistency.

Love the Mikami tropes also: self inflicted gunshot wounds, POTUS, infeasibly stoic smartarses who can survive anything and insane QTE melee attacks. Something about the tone of the enemy design (and that easter egg) reminds me of Contra Hardcorps.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:03 pm        Reply with quote

death parade wrote:
Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles


oh god...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:18 pm        Reply with quote

Apparently being exposed to hardcore Ninjas might have corrupted us. We used to call it that back then and it's good shorthand for that particular phase of the franchise. That TMHT coin-op might well be my GOTY for 1989 but it has to be an actual arcade cabinet that I'm pumping 20p coins into. It loses atmosphere if it's emulated.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:46 pm        Reply with quote

The greatest game of all times is Smash T.V. because it is an amazing satire of videogames and the way they mirror and promote the consumer society.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:46 pm        Reply with quote

Results in the first post updated

Total game count: 1127

Now I just need to import all the data to the wiki...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:47 pm        Reply with quote

Also NARC.

Total Carnage sucks though.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:01 pm        Reply with quote

Baseballkappe wrote:
The greatest game of all times is Smash T.V. because it is an amazing satire of videogames and the way they mirror and promote the consumer society.

But what about Missile Command?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:11 pm        Reply with quote

2010:
deadly premonition
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limbo (sorry h8rs)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:23 am        Reply with quote

So I've been importing all of the voting data into the wiki, and I'm about halfway done (up to 1994).

Link: http://wiki.selectbutton.net/sb:recommended:goty

You can fix any errors I made and change your votes. More importantly, you can comment (positively or negatively) on individual games and stuff. Clicking the "filter" button next to one of your posts might be a good place to start.

(Probably should have used this format in the first place, but whatever.)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:28 am        Reply with quote

I can't edit wiki articles but you have "1985" listed instead of "1994"
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:51 pm        Reply with quote

death parade wrote:


Vanquish was GOTY 2010. It did something genuinely transformative to the cover shooter genre. Contrast that with Dog Days which does very little with it at all and rides on the non-ludological elements heavily to generate interest. Vanquish made leaving cover in style the core element; other previously trite concepts like bullet time were re-purposed to create an insane, churning world of danger and excitement. There's actual vision there as to how this should all work beyond going through the motions of move and shoot. The player is given a toolbox of weapons, actions and routes to string together as they please and the result is something so visceral that I could play it for 15 minutes, pause and leave the controller perfectly satisfied and only then realise my hands were shaking from the adrenaline rush. I haven't thrilled like that since I was a kid fumbling for coins to slam in before the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles machine counted me out for ten.

Admittedly, the single player campaign falls off before the end just a little. It looks so good though - in it's own way, it looks as good as Kayne and Lynch 2. The implausibility of a near-future super-structure in Earth orbit was a small price to pay for that kind of techno-industrial consistency.

Love the Mikami tropes also: self inflicted gunshot wounds, POTUS, infeasibly stoic smartarses who can survive anything and insane QTE melee attacks. Something about the tone of the enemy design (and that easter egg) reminds me of Contra Hardcorps.


You also fight the same boss about 5 times, spend a lot of time waiting for your gauge to recharge, have a really shoved in collection aspect, and none of it is nearly as memorable as anything from RE4.

Oh man Now I'm fighting that boss but there are TWO of them.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:33 pm        Reply with quote

I would like to apologize here for not ever making a frontpage post about this thread. Since I'll be leaving soon (Mormon mission!), somebody else will need to wring some statistics out of the data in this thread and write some stuff to go with. I've uploaded my (horribly formatted) data spreadsheet to Google Docs (Original .xlsx file) in case somebody is willing to take up this challenge.

Also, for those who are curious here's a list of the top vote-getters, which I'm referring to as "sacred cows" because um
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:06 am        Reply with quote

The list should probably include a Marathon game, right?
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:07 am        Reply with quote

cycle doesn't post enough anymore, mustache
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:35 am        Reply with quote

ATTN RT-55J: Please allow the voting for Game of the Year 2011 to begin.
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