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The King

Joined: 14 Dec 2010 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:09 am |
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Absolute objective morality probably takes third place. _________________
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handsomenattou
Joined: 15 Oct 2010 Location: tokyo
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:14 am |
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| diplo wrote: |
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| The greatest painting, book, and music that will ever be made have likely already been made. |
i sure hope not. good thing nothing suggests that this has happened! |
Well... yeah... I suppose our current masterpieces in these mediums could possibly be topped. But I feel like the blueprint for these older mediums have mostly been established.
I can understand if you don't agree with that, but I think we can agree that video games, more than any other genre, is ripe for new defining works. |
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handsomenattou
Joined: 15 Oct 2010 Location: tokyo
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:20 am |
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| diplo wrote: |
| The Greatest X is the most boring myth humans have yet thought up |
Yeah, and searching for it is mostly a vain exercise, but... come on, did you notice what this thread is about? |
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diplo

Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Location: Brandy Brendo's bungalow
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:27 am |
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As far as I can tell, this thread is not IGN's Most Important Videogames of All Time. It is people choosing the games they like the most from each year. It doesn't seem to make any claims of objectivity or of being a serious pursuit of an impregnable canon (which is what The Greatest Works are almost always couched in).
In conclusion, The Best Game Ever Made
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The King

Joined: 14 Dec 2010 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:38 am |
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I would place myself firmly in Diplo's camp if I thought there was actually an opposing camp.
All the 'Greatest X' talk is fairly tongue in cheek stuff we're playing at because we ran out of years. _________________
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analogos bravely default crying fairy

Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:39 am |
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| analogos wrote: |
| I like ninja gaiden |
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The King

Joined: 14 Dec 2010 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:40 am |
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| analogos wrote: |
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| I like ninja gaiden |
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YES! me too. _________________
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handsomenattou
Joined: 15 Oct 2010 Location: tokyo
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:44 am |
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| diplo wrote: |
| As far as I can tell, this thread is not IGN's Most Important Videogames of All Time. It is people choosing the games they like the most from each year. It doesn't seem to make any claims of objectivity or of being a serious pursuit of an impregnable canon (which is what The Greatest Works are almost always couched in). |
Well then, I guess I'll rephrase... The greatest painting, novel, and musical work (to me) have likely already been made. I still hold out hope that I will have a new greatest game of all-time (to me) in the coming years. |
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handsomenattou
Joined: 15 Oct 2010 Location: tokyo
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:47 am |
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| The King wrote: |
I would place myself firmly in Diplo's camp if I thought there was actually an opposing camp.
All the 'Greatest X' talk is fairly tongue in cheek stuff we're playing at because we ran out of years. |
My real point was just that I believe video games will actually get better some day. My sensationalist point about other mediums being dead was... not well thought out in retrospect |
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lucky lipstick banned
Joined: 01 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:52 am |
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| i like games |
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lucky lipstick banned
Joined: 01 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:55 am |
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| my favrit game is bioshoc... when i play dis game i feel very tired of breathe... it has all the devols of sadness. |
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handsomenattou
Joined: 15 Oct 2010 Location: tokyo
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:01 am |
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| I cried when Aeris-chan died :'( |
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Felix unofficial repository
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:03 am |
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| diplo wrote: |
| As far as I can tell, this thread is not IGN's Most Important Videogames of All Time. It is people choosing the games they like the most from each year. It doesn't seem to make any claims of objectivity or of being a serious pursuit of an impregnable canon (which is what The Greatest Works are almost always couched in). |
While I absolutely agree, I'm sure I made some small effort (conscious or not) to mostly choose haute-middlebrow games that weren't too off-the-wall, and which made for a reasonably balanced representation of the medium when taken together. I might be a bit of a special type in that I'm able to meaningfully shift my own opinions so that they're in line with me choosing a reasonably even number of Eastern and Western titles, not doubling up on Itoi or Ueda, and representing the latter half of the 90s exactly as they are remembered by my Windows start menu "games" folder -- I really do have a Kawaks shortcut labeled as Twinklestar Sprites, nullDC as Soul Calibur, Worms Armageddon, You Don't Know Jack, and not much else -- but, taken as this composite whole (which I note again has aged rather well; there's a reason I opted for the "uniquely perfect" language, as I do have a slightly irrational bias toward purity of concept), videogames have done okay by me.
As an expansion of the (tired) "format vs. genre" argument against Kafka, I'd like to cite my choice of F-Zero GX for 2003: it's probably the least accessible or forgiving game from my entire list, from a fairly marginal genre, but I still think it's just about the best of its kind, and I'm not really interested in anybody improving upon it. It frankly seems as though the only way to "improve" on F-Zero GX would be to make the racing bit just one component of some Kafkaesque (can we please start using this in such a patently Wrong context?) Ur-Videogame, and the medium really isn't suited to that.
If anything, I'm now even more keen on calling Mother 3 the Best Videogame Ever Made. It also happens to be my favourite. |
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Ronnoc

Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:27 am |
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| I mean, if you don't think Tetris is a timeless classic, Tetris is a timeless classic. |
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T.
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:16 am |
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| Toptube wrote: |
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| what in the world (yes, the world) is more actually great than...pool of radiance? not much, tbh. |
A lot of things. Like every single other videogame >_> |
no, the '88 ssi game. the one actually named in this thread. jesus christ :/ _________________ o tempora, o mores |
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:29 pm |
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| I can't really get into 3d ninja gaiden, which oddly i find kinda sad. |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Balmer
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:35 pm |
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Street Fighter 4 is really bad and I'm kind of confused how it even made people interested in the genre again.
The amount of work it forces you to put in for such little return (OH MAN NOW I CAN LINK A LOW PUNCH INTO A MEDIUM PUNCH) doesn't seem like it would appeal to casual players at all, Capcom's boring adherence to joke character inclusion, and its lack of innovation (probably what actually got people in: same old, same old).
I honestly can't see a single redeeming quality in it. |
I'm a gamer who Just Doesn't Play Fighting Games. I watched the SF4 tournament on Evo and had fun doing so; I could understand what was going on. Not so with almost any other fighter. So, that's why it's popular with "casuals" (me) (not that I bought it or play it or anything).
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| Cuba, I didn't really enjoy the first k&l but that makes me want to play the new one - i find games discussing other games through their mechanics intriguing. I loved the first no more heroes discourse ib the state of modern gaming, is dog days as intentional in what it does? |
It's better because it's not as obvious. Whether it's "intentional" is pretty irrelevant. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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gooktime

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: no
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:39 am |
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People don't like SF4 because it's very slow & dry, risk-reward for nearly any offensive is fucked up. I've put a ton of time into it and it changed the fighting game scene locally from half a dozen guys in someones front room to a steady 50+ tournament turnout but I'm absolutely in the camp that it's weaker than ST.
That said I'm always confused when people complain about links and the execution barrier as that side is definitely way easier than most fightcons (see: the enormous reversal window) |
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lucky lipstick banned
Joined: 01 Jun 2010
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:59 am |
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dog days is actually pretty fun to play despite the fact that it is constantly calling attention to how horrific and stupid the actions of the player characters are.
it succeeds at several other things aside from being a piece of trite game criticism and i would rank it far above no more heroes just based on that alone. |
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klj5j6li Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:10 am |
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| gooktime wrote: |
| That said I'm always confused when people complain about links and the execution barrier as that side is definitely way easier than most fightcons (see: the enormous reversal window) |
The links in SF4 are really really ridiculously strict, and the sloppy input detection just kind of inverts the input barrier. Instead of trying to get your moves to come out, it's kind of a struggle to get some moves NOT to come out. MvC3 seems to have this problem too, see: high level tournaments where top players accidentally do dragon punch supers instead of hadoken supers. |
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gooktime

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: no
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:31 pm |
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| I'm with you on sloppy input detection; a lot of it (in SF4 at least) is down to the shortcuts, which ties in with what I was saying before. They made it as easy as possible to mash out a reversal dp. |
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BotageL pretty anime princess

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: *fidget*
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:13 pm |
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Wow, 2010 already? Let's see...
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8128

Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Location: a very very very fine house
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:24 pm |
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deadly premonition for goty 2010 _________________
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kthorjensen He brought three meals

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:22 pm |
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| Bennett wrote: |
Sissyfight 2000, first best web-based realtime multiplayer game. Remember Macy Gray? |
A game I worked on made the list. I can die happy.
- Duckling _________________ Go to this website, you (person who is loved) |
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armed police catrider

Joined: 03 Dec 2009 Location: toronto
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:39 pm |
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| sooooo Demon's Souls 2010? |
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Sniper Honeyviper
Joined: 30 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:29 pm |
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| armed police catrider wrote: |
| sooooo Demon's Souls 2010? |
JPN and US releases were 2009. |
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death parade banned
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:59 pm |
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Moogs
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:03 pm |
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| death parade wrote: |
| Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles |
oh god... |
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death parade banned
Joined: 25 Mar 2011
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:18 pm |
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| Apparently being exposed to hardcore Ninjas might have corrupted us. We used to call it that back then and it's good shorthand for that particular phase of the franchise. That TMHT coin-op might well be my GOTY for 1989 but it has to be an actual arcade cabinet that I'm pumping 20p coins into. It loses atmosphere if it's emulated. |
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Baseballkappe
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:46 pm |
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| The greatest game of all times is Smash T.V. because it is an amazing satire of videogames and the way they mirror and promote the consumer society. |
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RT-55J maverick

Joined: 15 Mar 2010 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:46 pm |
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Results in the first post updated
Total game count: 1127
Now I just need to import all the data to the wiki... |
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Baseballkappe
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:47 pm |
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Also NARC.
Total Carnage sucks though. |
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Dracko a sapphist fool

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:01 pm |
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| Baseballkappe wrote: |
| The greatest game of all times is Smash T.V. because it is an amazing satire of videogames and the way they mirror and promote the consumer society. |
But what about Missile Command? _________________
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diplo

Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Location: Brandy Brendo's bungalow
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:11 pm |
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2010:
deadly premonition
super meat boy
limbo (sorry h8rs) |
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RT-55J maverick

Joined: 15 Mar 2010 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:23 am |
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So I've been importing all of the voting data into the wiki, and I'm about halfway done (up to 1994).
Link: http://wiki.selectbutton.net/sb:recommended:goty
You can fix any errors I made and change your votes. More importantly, you can comment (positively or negatively) on individual games and stuff. Clicking the "filter" button next to one of your posts might be a good place to start.
(Probably should have used this format in the first place, but whatever.) _________________
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klj5j6li Guest
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:28 am |
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| I can't edit wiki articles but you have "1985" listed instead of "1994" |
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Rud31 forum ruler of Iraq

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:51 pm |
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You also fight the same boss about 5 times, spend a lot of time waiting for your gauge to recharge, have a really shoved in collection aspect, and none of it is nearly as memorable as anything from RE4.
Oh man Now I'm fighting that boss but there are TWO of them. _________________ My Hawt Blog Vita Games
THERE ARE DEFINITELY WORSE VIDEO GAME PODCASTS |
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RT-55J maverick

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:33 pm |
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I would like to apologize here for not ever making a frontpage post about this thread. Since I'll be leaving soon (Mormon mission!), somebody else will need to wring some statistics out of the data in this thread and write some stuff to go with. I've uploaded my (horribly formatted) data spreadsheet to Google Docs (Original .xlsx file) in case somebody is willing to take up this challenge.
Also, for those who are curious here's a list of the top vote-getters, which I'm referring to as "sacred cows" because um |
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Mr Mustache Mean Mr. Mustache

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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:06 am |
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The list should probably include a Marathon game, right? _________________ The people are like wool to me |
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negativedge banned
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:07 am |
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| cycle doesn't post enough anymore, mustache |
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Gorblax Ganbare Gorbly!

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ATTN RT-55J: Please allow the voting for Game of the Year 2011 to begin. _________________
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| My vision of gorblax is of an automaton built to function seamlessly in a society which no longer, or perhaps never, existed, but which is similar to our own. |
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