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RobotRocker
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Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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| nothingxs wrote: |
| Renfrew wrote: |
| Also, I wonder if we are going to start hearing rumblings about Street Fighter Alpha 2 or 3 Online if 3SO does well. |
You are most likely going to see some sort of Darkstalkers something happen first. Most likely, it will be Vampire Savior. |
I don't mind really because judging from the reviews, they nailed 3SOE properly features wise (Except 240P youtube videos what) and if they use the arcade ports as proving ground concepts for stuff Capcom US wants like the good kind of Button Config, GGPO and Youtube Uploading/Direct Streaming from the game it could maybe spring Capcom Japan into action on some of those things.
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THQ were trying to get UFC recognised weren't they? |
yes they were, but they weren't willing to cut the paycheck that team MK did. they would have had a better shot at getting WWE All-Stars recognized. |
UFC is a quite local thing to Vegas so it's probably them whipping up local hype. I believe WWE All-Stars has some really braindead infinites that were discovered after a while and not patched out though which is why after some initial hype, it died out.
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diplo
Joined: 18 Dec 2006
Location: Brandy Brendo's bungalow
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:15 pm |
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| looks like i absolutely need to get a ps3 now |
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nothingxs
various methods of escape
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idle
QUAD DAMAGE!!!
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:53 pm |
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dunno why so many folks here are hung up on the 360 (besides ports of various shmups), and i used to own one
if you're gonna buy a console to play fighting games on, ps3 is definitely the way to go, unless you were planning on buying a stick anyway (360 pad is unusable for fighters) |
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Loki Laufeyson
fps fragmaster
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: Beneath the Mushroom Kingdom
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:58 pm |
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| Persona wrote: |
Might happen! We're throwing out all kinds of DLC ideas so maaaybe
If you guys have ridiculous DLC ideas that are doable, try sending them to @skullgirls twitter or facebook account. |
i have done this
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Renfrew
catchy, and giger-esque
Joined: 31 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:12 pm |
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| Looking forward to VF6 being announced just before VF5R actually hits consoles. |
Probably why they waited so long. They didn't want those dirty foreigners getting their hands on the most up to date version.
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Pijaibros
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Casino Night Zone
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:20 pm |
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| idle wrote: |
| if you're gonna buy a console to play fighting games on, ps3 is definitely the way to go |
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ps3 is ass for fightman games. ps3s lag a couple frames more than x360 versions. it doesn't help that the majority of people that play on that system use wireless connections which just makes the match much worse as you miss all your links. if all the good combos in recent games were not links it wouldn't be a big as deal as this sounds like.
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Focus
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:24 pm |
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but EVO STANDARD
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Pijaibros
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:30 pm |
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screw "EVO standard". we'll use those wonderfully inexpensive ASUS monitors, but all the tourneys i go to use x360s. it kinda helps that i can just buy them in quantity for <100 dollars if I need more.
the only games I use ps3 for are Tekken 6 and Arcana. If we can run it on x360, most of the participants prefer that we do so. shoot even the Japanese dudes prefer it. i brought an x360 to the past few Season's Beatings and it isn't long before they're money matching on it over the available sony stations.
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diplo
Joined: 18 Dec 2006
Location: Brandy Brendo's bungalow
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:37 pm |
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| nothingxs wrote: |
| Why not just get a 360? Do you intend to play VF5 online? |
- i play using pads
- online matches aren't necessarily the main draw for me
- demon's souls |
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Deets
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:39 pm |
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| My local scene also abandoned the PS3, yeah. After a certain point it just became a liability. Nobody owns PS3 sticks, nobody plays on PSN, etc. |
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Maztorre
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Ireland
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:42 pm |
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Guys looks like we'll get a new game with Q after all
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Pijaibros
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:11 pm |
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| diplo wrote: |
| demon's souls |
but dark souls is going to be out for both systems, right? or is bamco going to mess with a pretty good formula? i've not read the dark souls thread here.
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Persona
unaustically orificial
Joined: 06 Jul 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:11 pm |
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SOOOOO HYPE
CAN'T WAIT TO FUZZY BLOCK AND WEAR RIDICULOUS OUTFITS AND COLORS AND SIDE STEP AND THROW MISS AND HELLLLLZ YEAHHHH
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Jigsaw
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:14 pm |
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| yessssss |
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analogos
bravely default crying fairy
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:34 pm |
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| third strike is out for US PSN and those interested might to grab it asap because there seems to be a bug where the gill unlock code is included in the standard purchase even if you didn't pre-order |
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LandRoverAttack
Joined: 09 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:39 pm |
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| analogos wrote: |
| third strike is out for US PS3, and those interested might to grab it asap because there seems to be a bug where the gill unlock code is included in the standard purchase even if you didn't pre-order |
The promotion is valid as long as you buy it before the PLAY whatever promotion is over, so until 9/19/2011. Working as intended, no worries.
Also, has anyone around here ever played Virtua Fighter competitively? I've played the last few installments semi-casually and I'm pretty damn excited about Final Showdown showing up here. What's it take to be good at VF?
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Sniper Honeyviper
Joined: 30 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:44 pm |
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| Pijaibros wrote: |
| diplo wrote: |
| demon's souls |
but dark souls is going to be out for both systems, right? or is bamco going to mess with a pretty good formula? i've not read the dark souls thread here. |
The 360 version of Dark Souls is going to be quite inferior, since the game was intended to be a PS3 exclusive. Downsampled audio, missing effects, muddier textures. It'll stay exclusive in Japan. I'm happy to have it on 360 at all, though.
As for fightmans, I agree that 360 is the way to go, unless you're in the US and want to play Arcana 3. |
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Maztorre
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Ireland
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:37 pm |
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| Also, has anyone around here ever played Virtua Fighter competitively? I've played the last few installments semi-casually and I'm pretty damn excited about Final Showdown showing up here. What's it take to be good at VF? |
I've played a hell of a lot of VF but it's kind of meaningless without the Japanese competition to measure against.
I don't know if this helps but the basics of combat in VF are to press advantage using a mid attack/standing throw mixup, so that the opponent is forced to guess between guarding high against a mid attack (leaving them vulnerable to throw), or entering a throw escape (leaving them vulnerable to a mid). If you're at advantage your mid attack will generally beat out their attempts to counterhit, or you can predict an evade by using an attack that will track an evading opponent or is sweeping/circular (therefore catching them at an angle during evade).
Since every character has a massive list of situational techniques there is a huge amount of utility moves that you can opt to use depending on your position relative to the ring and your opponent, and obviously to play mind games. For example, Wolf's Giant Swing is an obvious choice of throw since it does both high damage and provides good opportunities for a ring out or carrying an opponent to the wall. Your opponent will know this and will have the throw escape input ready to execute when Wolf is in range, so as Wolf you'll want to opt for a different throw that maybe won't give you the same damage or favourable position but is less likely to be predicted. Or opt for a strike, which they may also predict and get a free combo, etc.
This makes the game pretty different from something like Street Fighter, where each character has very defined strengths and weaknesses and their gameplan is very clearly based around controlling certain areas of the screen. VF characters have enough utility to handle situations at all ranges, but a good player will be positioning themselves at their characters favoured range at all times.
Very little of this is execution-heavy, by the way. The toughest is buffering in multiple throw escapes while evading, but Final Showdown has simplified this system so it'll be easier now.
Hope this helps, at my best I was only applying the basics of prediction and setting up/applying frame advantage when compared to the arcade scene for the game so I'm not sure of how useful this will be. |
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diplo
Joined: 18 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:59 pm |
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| Pijaibros wrote: |
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but dark souls is going to be out for both systems, right? |
Yeah, but I want to own Demon's Souls, too. The thing about greater online lag is kind of depressing, but -- noting how bad the 360 controller is for fighters -- I just don't know if I have the will to basically re-teach myself VF by getting a stick (I've played 4/Evo since 4's release on the PS2 using a pad). |
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Maztorre
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:05 pm |
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| I'm curious diplo, do you map combinations like P+G, P+K etc to triggers or do you do all your execution on the face buttons? Props to you either way, I started VF on a Saturn pad and later the Dualshock but once I switched to a stick I didn't look back. |
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diplo
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:19 pm |
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| I only use the triggers for P+K+G. Everything else = face buttons. |
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haze
la belle poney sans merci
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:41 pm |
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count me in as one of those who will finally buy a ps3/360 just to play Final Showdown. probably the PS3, I think there were some titles on that I was interested in. I can't really remember.
I don't really get why lack of Spectator Mode is a big deal to some people (on random forums, not here)? why not just... play the game? there's thousands of videos on youtube anyway |
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Persona
unaustically orificial
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:52 pm |
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Spectator Mode is useful if you're in a lobby waiting for other players to finish their matches until it's your turn. Otherwise you're just sitting in a menu listening to menu music and twiddling your thumbs.
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nothingxs
various methods of escape
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:06 am |
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| idle wrote: |
dunno why so many folks here are hung up on the 360 (besides ports of various shmups), and i used to own one
if you're gonna buy a console to play fighting games on, ps3 is definitely the way to go, unless you were planning on buying a stick anyway (360 pad is unusable for fighters) |
Because some people want their online experience to suck substantially less.
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Drem
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klj5j6li
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:34 am |
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So uh, anybody wanna play 3rd strike? The netcode's not finding me any matches.
PSN: INTERDINGHY
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firenze
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:55 am |
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| idle wrote: |
| if you're gonna buy a console to play fighting games on, ps3 is definitely the way to go, unless you were planning on buying a stick anyway (360 pad is unusable for fighters) |
If you're gonna buy a console just to play fighting games, you need to buy a stick no matter which one you get. 360 pad and PS3 pad both suck ass for fighters. |
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Sniper Honeyviper
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:01 am |
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Not disagreeing with you, but I believe there's some high-ranking EVO players that use pads? And I've heard from BotageL that a lot of Western GGXX players swear by them.
The Tekken 5 arcade cab had PS2 controller ports, and almost everyone I saw playing used them.
I'd imagine that serious pad playing on Virtua Fighter is quite viable, with there only being three buttons. |
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Sniper Honeyviper
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klj5j6li
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:24 am |
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| Sniper Honeyviper wrote: |
| Who's Ignus? |
Carls' Dad's Puppet.
...I mean I guess.... |
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Focus
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:39 am |
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evo standard is a half joke.
granted, i don't do much with 360s, as our scene out here sticks to ps3 for whatever reason. in the process of dual modding anyways
just played a guy online in 3s with a 177655% disconnect rate.
:c
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Deets
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:42 am |
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| Is there any truth to the rumor that 3SO has input lag even offline |
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Sniper Honeyviper
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:45 am |
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If it's any consolation, the Dreamcast version did too.
I assume it's fine on PS2? |
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Deets
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:52 am |
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That's not much consolation when the entire PR line from capcom was that they were using the arcade version source code
(that the training mode is apparently identical to the PS2/Dreamcast version is worrisome as well) |
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BotageL
pretty anime princess
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Sniper Honeyviper
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:21 am |
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| Man, even the Chinese-ported XBLA Garou had no offline input lag, as far as I know. |
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Lick Meth
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:38 am |
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I forgot how blue skies the music from VF3 was |
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klj5j6li
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:35 pm |
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| Deets wrote: |
| Is there any truth to the rumor that 3SO has input lag even offline |
Apparently? Fubarduck and his people were saying it a lot on the stream last night.
I haven't noticed it though, personally, but I'm not really a MASTER OF THE FRAMES. |
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nothingxs
various methods of escape
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BotageL
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:36 pm |
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| nothingxs wrote: |
| Apparently the 360 version has no input lag. |
You mean once again the PS3 port of a fightman game is the obvious lesser of the two? This happens so frequently it's starting to be really freakin' sad
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