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i think i saw jebailey tweeting that earlier, i blame him
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BotageL
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:19 pm |
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The more I learn about what little skill I have at fightman games and what clicks with my playstyle, the less I want anything to do with Third Strike. I think it's a great looking, great sounding game, but I am not interested in playing it at all. It's kind of like me & SF4, except for completely different reasons (and one of these games actually gets play).
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:13 pm |
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He changed the name, huh? Somehow the development timeframe seems really short considering the stage the engine was at a year ago, even if most of the art was done a long time ago...
Should probably order a copy to put on my Doujin Fightman Shelf of Shame beside BBB1 and Ogon (and Higurashi Daybreak, and the Groove on Fight followup).
e: Ohhhhhhh boy. This is... yeah.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:59 pm |
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What kind of bugs me about BBB2 so far is a couple of things, from dicking around for 15 minutes:
Rather than actually trying to make the crazy mish-mash of game systems in BBB work, they simply removed them all entirely. (The Mass Effect 2 of fightman games.) The trademark Hokuto no Ken/Arcana Heart-style dash cancels have been entirely removed for everyone except Rouga, and they have massive startup now for him. Some characters still have their status-boosting taunts on the D button, sort of like a Blazblue Drive, but only a couple of the characters have those at all. And never mind the silly Art of Fighting-style power meters, or the charge that let you exchange life for attack power. Yeah, that shit didn't really work, but it was cool as hell!
Maybe I just ain't played a true Anime game in a while, but the game just doesn't feel all that flexible, particularly the huge window of time between when you start an airdash and when you can cancel it into moves and the slow-feeling specials and weird hit-states.
Oh, and I think it's really funny that they only completed graphics for two additional characters in all of that time. And based on timestamps from the first test version, before Aja packed any of the game data up, a lot of the graphics for Miyazato's Funky Crew were done years ago anyway.
(and I don't trust that training mode to be teching like it oughta -- there's something really weird about stuff like doing Ren's throw, then comboing into 623B grab that just feels wrong)
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:27 pm |
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| Sniper Honeyviper wrote: |
He meant to say Glove on Fight.
It's Gleam of Force. |
God damn it, I knew I was messing something up
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:31 pm |
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| mauve wrote: |
I'm entirely okay with back to basics, honestly. I like basic footsies fighters and the whole "GO CRAZY WITH MECHANICS" silliness is what led us to garbage like Ougon and SWR.
Pretty sure we're running on insufficient information as far as mechanics are concerned, though. I looked over the manual and while there is information on guard cancels, bursts, etc, it also doesn't even cover some things, like Big Bang Mode (A+B+C at 3 stock) is never mentioned. So yeah. Day one demo theoryfighting with incomplete manuals, let's go. |
Fair enough, I'm just kind of worried that we're going to see a lot of patches dramatically changing stuff again, and it feels weird/obnoxious going back to a style where not every character in the game uses every button (aside from activating supers). It feels "wrong." I'll see if I can get any of the anime game crew to fuck around in this with me later.
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| The Ren thing seems fine, you can combo into that move anyway. |
Yeah, it took me a couple of tries to realize that it actually does combo; at first I was being sloppy and was just catching them as they teched.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:15 pm |
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I still don't have a problem with how MvC3 turned out, on the whole
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:26 pm |
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i'm just come out and give the scrub response here: i don't think it's particularly exciting having a single character who counterpicks over half the cast of the game and essentially requires investment in specific risky counter-counter strategies which are likely to involve completely switching up one's team to win the match against a competent player. sorry. i just don't think that's fun. it makes the game a little too obviously about guessing right in a handful of situations
and yes this is because i'm a bad player and play a bad team and don't put in the effort to have other ones in my back pocket
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:10 am |
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Wha--
Fuck, when do I get to place my order? I will force the local Anime Krew to play MB and we'll fucking like it
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:23 pm |
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| I want to play Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo, but I don't know which version I should get. What's the consensus on the HD remake? Is it superior to the original and did it replace it in tournament play? |
HDR's actually come up a couple of times in the past few pages. It's generally pretty well-regarded, as if nothing else a good idea and a noble attempt at adjusting the game after a dozen years of competitive testing. Tournament standard seems to fluctuate around whichever camp bitches the most at the time, leaning toward the original Super Turbo of late.
If you just want to play the original Super Turbo, there's really no beating the arcade version on an emulator. Though I'm pretty sure you can set the game system in HDR back to arcade ST if you like.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:38 pm |
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This isn't really a surprise, given that they've been developing it on PC since day 1. It was basically just a question of when they were going to have the time/effort to polish it up for public consumption in that form. Apparently they're solving that by hiring another dude to help!
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:57 pm |
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SBO has run a lot of games that really didn't deserve to be there, though.
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BotageL
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:21 pm |
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| The early samples of HDR's art looked amazing, but the project was horribly rushed and they had to cut some pretty severe corners. It was far, far too labor-intensive to redraw every frame of animation in that original level of quality. |
Also, and most importantly, they didn't hire animators at the outset, they hired comic book artists who lacked animation experience. And holy shit did it ever show.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:53 am |
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| Probably not gonna blow a hundred bucks on an okay fighting game from a franchise I'm not crazy about, but have they said anything about Ougon being region-free? |
The wise man waits to see if they port the rest of the content over to the PC version in a free patch, as they have with at least one of the new characters already. (Game's kinda not good, but you can't argue with the support attempts.)
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:42 pm |
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whoa, what the heck is this, a doujin game that's not an anime game? consider me baffled/hyped
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:17 pm |
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i am really worried about cross assault
the rest of the game i am cautiously hype for
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:41 pm |
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We know absolutely nothing about Wright's moveset, bro.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:38 pm |
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oh okay i see SOMEBODY is mr. srk illuminati now >:|
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:40 pm |
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| Booter wrote: |
griefing glitch with deadpool / trish where opponent is held in place unable to attack, LOOOOOL: http://mvc3.net/?p=7
apologies if this has been posted prior in an attached embedded video, i can't see vidyas at work |
deadpool/trish/thor is the best griefing team for the next couple days before they patch this out
so did this and yatagarasu 4 ever hit the internets and i just didn't see them? i kind of want to try them even though i know bbbr will be bad and yatagarasu will be third strike.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:20 pm |
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| so did this and yatagarasu 4 ever hit the internets and i just didn't see them? i kind of want to try them even though i know bbbr will be bad and yatagarasu will be third strike. |
nope, the internets are being strangely silent. |
Damn it, I asked my friend in Japan (no not that one) if he could hit the doujin shops and pick these up for me but he's busy with "orientation" or some shit, and I'm not really in the mood to pay Paletweb prices right now
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:06 pm |
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| Arc System Works is doing a PS360 fighter based on the Nurarihyon no Mago anime (it'll skip arcades). Don't think there's any videos yet. |
It looks like one of those anime tie-in fighters with jumping around in stages and a tug-of-war lifebar, which makes me extremely wary.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:44 pm |
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There are a lot more (and clearer) screens up here. Hard to say much of anything from them except "I wouldn't get hyped."
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:37 pm |
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| Renfrew wrote: |
| It's what, 3 years late? I'm so happy though. I hope my X-box doesn't melt from how awesome this is. Guys, we got KOF 98, 2k2 and 13, Garou, MVC2, Third Strike and now VF5FS all on one system. These are truly amazing times we live in. Is there anything else we need. An XBLA port of KOF 11 maybe? |
Arc System Works really needs to make an XBLA version of Accent Core with the Blazblue netcode already. Then we will have the ultimate fightmans box.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:41 pm |
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i really wish you'd stop lording your srk illuminati connections over us
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:36 pm |
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| nothingxs wrote: |
| Apparently the 360 version has no input lag. |
You mean once again the PS3 port of a fightman game is the obvious lesser of the two? This happens so frequently it's starting to be really freakin' sad
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:04 pm |
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| nothingxs wrote: |
| BotageL wrote: |
| nothingxs wrote: |
| Apparently the 360 version has no input lag. |
You mean once again the PS3 port of a fightman game is the obvious lesser of the two? This happens so frequently it's starting to be really freakin' sad |
evo standard |
somebody buy evo some 360s, please
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| Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:02 pm |
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Shulkie got her air dash back @0:30 in the PAX build
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:04 am |
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put demi-fiend in the game and i'll buy two
(insert blazblue team joke here)
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:00 am |
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i don't know why but those screens make me bust out laughing
tension gauge & burst icons, yep, definitely an ASW game
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:13 pm |
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| ArOne wrote: |
| So are they saying blazblue team just because it happens to be arcsys and bb has more recognition amongst the masses or is it an actual specialized team with in arcsys that handles bb also doing this? Because if the latter, I just went totally flaccid. |
Same producer and director.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:20 pm |
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I've heard HnK called "the Japanese Marvel 2" and while I don't think that's an entirely accurate comparison, I think it gets to the heart of the matter pretty nicely.
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