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Sniper Honeyviper
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 Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:18 pm Post subject: SBGC Daily 1 Credit Redux: The Top-Rankers Edition Co-Op: Renfrew, The King |
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SBGCD1CR
We had this going at least once on SB before, and a similar thread on the old IC forums. Right now, I've got a lot of free time and a lot of old games I want to delve into, so I figured I'd start another one. It would also be interesting to have a general, if rough, measuring stick of our gaming abilities in a variety of genres. I'd like to focus on little-known and largely unplayed games this time, so the experiences and discussions will be fresh. Most of the games will probably end up being MAME-oriented, but I'm not going to rule out arcade-styled console/PC games, at least if they emulate easily.
Here are the rules, adapted from wpham's old thread:
1. Post a FIRST and (optionally) a BEST score for each game, preferably with the characters/ships/whatever you used, if the game gives you a choice.
FIRST SCORE = No practice runs, no resets. I will not modify these.
BEST SCORE = Practice as much as you want beforehand, reset all you want. I will update these if you post an improved personal score.
2. Continuing is not allowed in any case, nor is using more than one credit at a time.
3. Research of games (movelists, strategies, etc.) is fine in all cases.
4. Scores for each game will be collected at the bottom of this post, in their respective categories.
5. Suggest another game! Try to pick something that's not well known and that most people wouldn't have already played.
6. We will specify a version of the game to be played if there are significant gameplay differences between regions and/or hardware.
7. Unless otherwise specified, default settings must always be used.
8. I'll try to post one new game per day, but I can't guarantee an exact schedule.
9. Just because I've posted a new game, doesn't mean you can't still submit scores for a previous one. Though I would encourage people to stay current to some degree.
EDIT: Curated thread to crop an overly huge image.
2nd EDIT: Updated rules to accommodate both first and best scores, unlike the old thread.
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OUR FIRST GAME IS: WARZARD/RED EARTH (Arcade, CPS3)
(No passwords allowed, must start from Lv. 1. Must not enter any two-player matches.)
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(SCOREBOARD MOVED TO GALAXY ODDITY THREAD)
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The King
Joined: 14 Dec 2010
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:51 pm |
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Does this mean you can practice, just not close to your forrealz run.
I think it might be more fun to do no practice runs whatsoever, though I can see why that might be problematic for this game, since anyone who hadn't played it before wouldn't know the move-list.
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Sniper Honeyviper
Joined: 30 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:51 pm |
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Yup, that's what I meant.
The movelists are pretty small until you level up a substantial amount, though. |
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howardcneal
Joined: 14 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:09 am |
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Here's a display of my top level fighting game skills:
- HowardCneal: 62202 EXP, Tabasa/Tessa
Regarding a next game, any non-obvious STG would be pleasant.
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end of the world
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:35 am |
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Sniper Honeyviper
Joined: 30 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:46 am |
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Excellent! howardcneal might want to crop that image, though. (Never mind: I did it for him.)
Note that you receive a massive EXP bonus from hitting the falling stone slab in the bonus stage after Gi Gi. It appears after you destroy the wall moais, with a DANGER indicator. The timing is difficult, though. |
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cake
Joined: 11 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:55 pm |
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| As it came up in a different thread, I would like to suggest Taito's Crazy Balloon. |
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fromdrone
Joined: 15 Mar 2011
Location: below the salt
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:10 pm |
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| cake wrote: |
| As it came up in a different thread, I would like to suggest Taito's Dead Connection.. |
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Ymer
Joined: 05 Oct 2009
Location: PAL region
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:08 pm |
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Well that went well. Decided to check out how this game held up on the CPS3 emulator on the Xbox. Probably not the best way to experience the game but adequate I suppose... There wasn't TOO much frame-skipping. Guess Street Fighter 3 and Jojo is all it's good for! Also discovered it lacked a screenshot feature so I had to settle for the third best thing!
Are we allowed to look up move lists and the like online or is this to be a completely blind thing? Tried vs. against a dummy player as Mai-Ling to see what I could discover. Thought I got a good grip on things but that all went out the window pretty much as soon as things went down for real. Sure the flying harpy thing went down without too much trouble but then discovering that only a fraction of your health is restored between matches and I quickly became dinosaur chow. Looking forward to any non-fighting games! |
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Sniper Honeyviper
Joined: 30 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:14 pm |
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| Ymer wrote: |
| Are we allowed to look up move lists and the like online or is this to be a completely blind thing? |
No, feel free to do all the research you want beforehand. I can assure you we won't have too many more fighting games, since almost none are single-player oriented. Well, there's Monster Maulers and Metamoquester...
Since this is our first game, and I started the thread rather late yesterday, I'm going to hold off till tomorrow morning (EST) to post a new one.
I would pick Dead Connection, but it was already used in the old thread. |
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cavefish
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:45 pm |
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- cavefish: 42400 EXP, Mukuro/Kenji
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Sniper Honeyviper
Joined: 30 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:20 pm |
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Fun fact: Blade's name was originally going to be Jihad.
I find him to be the toughest enemy in the game, moreso than Valdoll/Scion because he's got so much health, blocks constantly and is less susceptible to super jump abuse. His extreme-damage attacks (mirror projectile, full-screen armor burst) don't telegraph like Valdoll's, either. |
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fromdrone
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:25 pm |
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| Sniper Honeyviper wrote: |
Since this is our first game, and I started the thread rather late yesterday, I'm going to hold off till tomorrow morning (EST) to post a new one.
I would pick Dead Connection, but it was already used in the old thread. |
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VgameT
Joined: 26 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:46 am |
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I didn't beat the first opponent 8)
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Sniper Honeyviper
Joined: 30 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:10 am |
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Our top scorer for Warzard/Red Earth is end of the world, beating me out by a good 200,000 EXP. I'm sure we've both had plenty of prior experience with the game, though (sorry, everyone else).
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| As it came up in a different thread, I would like to suggest Taito's Crazy Balloon. |
Suggestion acknowledged!
TODAY'S GAME IS: CRAZY BALLOON (Arcade)
Stage 6 ate all my lives. Is the narrow shortcut path even possible? I love how the game's early enough (1980) that it doesn't feel at all detached from the medium's carnival-attraction origins.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a direct inspiration for the Kururin games, though it's not like it introduced the concept of "don't touch the walls."
After you finish your for realz run, start the game and don't move for a while for a neat bonus. (You'll die in the process.)
EDIT: I've determined that moving around near the differently colored spikes grants more points, even if you can't get past them. |
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end of the world
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:10 am |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:12 am |
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cake
Joined: 11 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:24 am |
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Wow that's an awesome score Sniper Honeyviper! I was pretty happy to get to stage 4 after about 10 credits.
Here's my first time score..
I like looking at these types of games, with few obvious descendants. Why didn't they become popular? Also, with simple games like this, it's easy to imagine the design process, even if I get it wrong.
(Kururin is going on my list of GBA games I hope to one day own.) |
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allensmithee
polyglamorous
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:31 am |
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Okay, I want to get in on this stuff, and since Sniper Honeyviper has me on ignore could somebody please quote this to let him know. I got rid of the dog picture, so la. Anyway, yes, I'll be trying Crazy Balloon right about now.
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cassievania
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:54 am |
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Schwere Viper
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allensmithee
polyglamorous
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:41 pm |
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Ah, I can't get any of this to work. I'm going to check the directories once my brother wakes up (we share a room, and I woke him up last time which (understandably) pissed him off) because I think that might be the issue. It always brings up something about the controller config?
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Sniper Honeyviper
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:08 pm |
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Smithee, I'll take you off ignore if you don't post any more shock images in the axe without prior warning (i.e. URL instead of img tags).
Everyone else, your scores have been updated. I didn't find it a difficult game at all, at least until level 6 (I now know that the game loops after this). The trick is to think in terms of diagonal lines, since the most obtuse positions of the balloon string usually match up with the curves. It was pretty funky when the entire stage started moving, which must have taken some difficult programming for 1980.
Also, a guide to getting Warzard running in MAME (copied from a PM I sent):
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To play Warzard/Red Earth, you'll need these files: wzd000.chd, redeartn.zip, and possibly redearth.zip and warzard.zip. You'll also need to let the disc image copy itself to the virtual CPS3 board, but you can speed this up with frameskip/throttle. Oh, and put roms into the "roms" folder.
Just put wzd000.chd in the roms folder with everything else, then start the game (under the Red Earth or Warzard listing, but not the NO CD one.)
After a menu selection, the game will begin copying itself to the CPS3 board. Unfortunately this takes about a half hour, but you can use frameskip/throttle like I mentioned. You won't have to do it again, at least.
I've posted another game in the 1 credit thread, but I'll still put up your score if you post it. |
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allensmithee
polyglamorous
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:10 pm |
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Yeah, I certainly didn't think that through. I didn't mean harm, and yeah. Basically, message received. I'm going to try this MAME again.
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Sniper Honeyviper
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:40 pm |
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| I probably should have mentioned this before, but Shmupmame v2.2 is really what you want to be using for everything. (Not v3.0b, which is inferior in every way aside from supporting Espgaluda.) Cuts out input lag in a good armful of games, while providing expanded interface options. |
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allensmithee
polyglamorous
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:51 pm |
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I got it working! But I'm not submitting my score. I couldn't beat the first board for Crazy Balloons!
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Schwere Viper
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:19 pm |
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3150 for Crazy Balloon :<
Played Red Earth, didn't do bad for a first try! Unfortunately the only high score table it was showing was for the lion guy, so...damn. I'll try again tomorrow.
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Levi
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:21 pm |
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Playtime: quarter of a minute -__- |
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howardcneal
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:23 pm |
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Ymer
Joined: 05 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:37 pm |
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Why do none of these screenshot tools not work?
Got a little freaked out when the entire screen started scrolling up and down. Was pleasantly surprised by the lack of a time limit actually. |
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birdcloud
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:51 pm |
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the no practice runs rule is kind of making this no fun for me
i just wanna bash on a game for hour, not bash on a game for 55 minutes and then wait a while until i'm pure again and can do a run that counts |
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cake
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:16 pm |
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| maybe we could report first & best scores? |
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Sniper Honeyviper
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:46 pm |
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Yeah, to be honest, I'm not entirely satisfied with the no practice runs rule myself. Gonna make some changes, gonna instate another suggestion of cake's (the first & best rule).
So if anyone wants to post their best scores for Warzard and Crazy Balloon, go ahead.
EDIT: Done. Check the top post. |
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The King
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:33 am |
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New rules sound fun. :)
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Sniper Honeyviper
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:37 am |
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For our first "best score" listing.
I can probably do better than this, but the tension really starts to break me down after level 6. |
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Sniper Honeyviper
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:29 am |
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Our top scorer in both categories (so far) for Crazy Balloon is myself!
TODAY'S GAME IS: THUNDER DRAGON 2 (Arcade)
A wonderful, yet sadly overlooked NMK shmup with a hilarious announcer.
PROTIP: Shoot the letters. There are also slight differences between the player 1 and 2 side ships.
First score:
- Sniper Honeyviper: 721770, Player 1 ship
I foolishly withheld my bombs in Stage 3, forgetting how liberal the game is with handing them out.
(Best score to come) |
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Schwere Viper
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:42 am |
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Okay, managed to catch my score for Red Earth this time!
86600 with MaiLing
As for the BEST score I could manage on Crazy Balloon...
19130! When the stage starts a-rockin' my balloon starts a-poppin' :|
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cake
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:03 pm |
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1ST
(I had trouble getting this to work, as I don't use MAME very often. This page gave me the info I needed to get it working, I think I was trying to load the wrong version without the proper hardware BIOS.) |
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