[apfEID]

Perhaps I was overselling the $3 angle, but it's true that this game had escaped my notice almost entirely until this time limited, download based sale brought it to my attention and caused me to read this thread and go "hey, this sounds like something I may enjoy and for $3 I should really bite." Money aside, it's already been worth the effort to make sure to turn on my xbox and download it and spend an hour playing it, how 'bout that?
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[thestage]

food for thought (who the fuck wants to think or say things on a fucking message board?):

everyone universally decries using "value" as a quantifiable, monetary metric in video game reviews/discussions

everyone universally decries using "length" as a quantifiable, temporal metric in video game reviews/discussions

and yet here we are, habitually submitting ourselves to the minute points of those very metrics when we try to determine what video games to play

has anyone in the history of the world ever uttered the sentence: "well, I want to read Moby Dick, but I think I'm going to wait until Scribner puts out a three dollar edition"?

what are the relationships between these claims? and how do they directly influence all of our/your pet peeves not just in the consumption of video games, but, necessarily, in the production of video games as well? why did remote use the word guilt (which, yes, always needs to be explained, sorry)?

[thestage]

[Dark Age Iron Savior]

did the El Shaddai social/mobile game even come out?

Come to think of it, it was the first I saw of social games which are apparently centered around anime girls dressing as characters from the franchise. That seems to be a thing with SNK and Capcom now?

[thestage]

[CubaLibre]

[Talbain]

I think it's rather telling that a Chipotle burrito is considered to be of more worth than most videogames, even if we're only talking about a consumptive level of value.
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[Wall of Beef]

People do wait for Paperback versions of books because they are a lot cheaper than the Hardcover editions which typically are the only available version at release. Its not so much because the person believes the content is only worth $12.99, its more like, you know, you gotta get groceries and goalie pads for your son, etc.
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[Mikey]

Yeah, I'm thinking that at the $3 price point you get people who didn't necessarily want a game all along, but merely were curious about it. Indulging curiosity on impulse is where people want things to be cheap. It's not about thinking "this game is only worth X", it's "I'm not sure I want to risk spending X on a game I might not like because I don't have the money to burn."

[Deets]

There's also the painless and immediate nature of the sale to consider. I haven't been in a Gamestop in probably close to a year, but being able to press a button to have the game download straight to my console for $3, I mean. That's doable.

[parker]

I buy all my books used.
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[Zebadayus]

Yes nedge, people will consciously wait for a thing to be cheaper because sometimes money is an issue and sometimes we don't buy things we WANT because we can't just buy everything we want at new prices. Can you wrap your head around this?

[remote]

with great pains, apparently
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[winkerwatson]

I enjoyed the two thirds of this game i played until something happened to my save.

extralife when did you learn to type so fast?
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[allensmithee]

[spinach]

[thestage]

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[thestage]

[spinach]

library's always full where i go, you must have a shitty one
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[thestage]

no, I mean like statistically. for reals.

[evnvnv]

[spinach]

anecdotally, whatever you say is wrong, whatever i say is right. but! my point wasn't general library usage, i was advertising libraries so more people go. did you know libraries now carry selections of videogames for current generation consoles? i kinda wish they'd carry old shit, actually.
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[evnvnv]

Libraries rule. I think, whatever usage statistics may reveal, another thing that is going on is the role of the library is definitely changing. I mean, in my case, I spend a lot of time in the university library. Yep. But--even when I am not physically in the library, I rely on my VPN to get access to tons and tons of databases and search engines and whatnot, the institutional subscriptions to which are all handled by the library staff, and worked into that infrastructure. It seems kind of simple, but it's actually kind of an amazing thing. Yes, the dark side of this is in an age when information is believed to be free, the existence of stuff like Jstor seems kind of anachronistic, but there is also something kind of poetic and appropriate to me that the 'library' has become basically a metaphor for the infrastructural entity that oversees the organization of and access to written knowledge, even when that written knowledge is no longer something that needs to be physically manifested and stored.

On that note, even though I guess the ivory tower is small and statistics are big, I'm curious if this data on the decline of use in libraries is factoring in off-site access to online resources as a part of "library use." If not, I'm willing to bet that use of databases and the like in lieu of consultation of physical resources is a significant contributor to the outward appearance of a decline in library usage.
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[CubaLibre]

[thestage]

[Felix]

I work in open access publishing

but I did not come into the El Shaddai thread to talk about that

[thestage]

^_^

[evnvnv]

[Deets]

[thestage]

ya'll just trollin, you know I'm not going to produce any statistics. I value my time too much. lol

for real though I'll maybe dig into it later, I do actually have shit to do right now. but before we go:

[Adilegian]

It's also rare to find someone with interest in perusing academic publications who is (1) outside the academy and who also (2) does not have social connections with access to those resources. I've acquired many scholarly articles from online databases through the generosity of friends still connected with academics.

There are also university libraries with hard copies of a lot of journals. In between my undergrad and grad years, these were fine resources for my private linguistic and literary studies. Those studies also contributed toward my self-preparation for grad school.

Academic scholarship isn't as easy to access apart from institutions, but it hasn't been as difficult for me as it's made out here.

So El Shaddai is $5 now? I can sink that for a test run. I make this valuation because I have a limited budget and, therefore, less leverage for experimentation with games that I'm less certain that I will enjoy.
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[evnvnv]

also, university libraries typically don't lock their doors during operating hours, and most have terminals from which precious databases can be accessed in addition to having open stacks and lots of photocopiers.
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[Wall of Beef]

If you have the mental power to completely set aside your personal financial cost to achive whatever enjoyment you get - good for you!
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[Rud31]

ID is full of lies. El Shaddai is great.

*-Brought to you by the guy that loves Bullet Witch.
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[Adilegian]

[Adilegian]

[apfEID]

It's actually $2.99 plus tax.
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[klj5j6li]

It's just so easy and boring