[Ronnoc]

I realized that money is worthless in the game and that I already had great weapons and armor so I just started doing missions without picking anything up in the dungeons and then I was all 'OH GOD WHAT NO'

[another god]

I just stopped playing the game.
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[Ronnoc]

ok

[remote]

It honestly sort of amazes me that anyone who started playing this when it came out is still playing it.

Somebody asked me to watch the Gametrailers review of Skyrim the other day, and they finished it off by saying, basically, "This game is full of bugs and glitches and ridiculous bullshit, but that's not what you'll take away from it. We swear, the good stuff you'll find here totally overrides all the dumb crap. 9.3!" My experience has been pretty much the opposite of that.
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[remote]

btw would you all believe me if i said i've heard people call this "skrim" and "ski-rim"?

'cause i have
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=60505

[CubaLibre]

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Let's Play, starring me.

[Lucaz]

[GcDiaz]

[BadFlower]

this game is really great until you get past level 12

you also kind of need to avoid playing the game and just wander and kill people. don't kill dead things or animals because that's not fun.

unless you're rp'ing a hunter, then it's okay to kill animals.

this game has beehives! in trees! like, way up in the trees and not at eye level. blew my mind.

[Mr. Mechanical]

Last time I posted in this thread I meant to say that this is the game Oblivion should have been but wasn't so I'm saying it now. Skyrim is the game that Oblivion should have been but wasn't.
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[evnvnv]

the next elder scrolls game will be the one that skyrim should have been, don't worry
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[Mr. Apol]

[Laurel Soup]

[TXTSWORD]

[Ronnoc]

Some games have real fun and not just lootz

[TXTSWORD]

[SuperWes]

I just started playing this yesterday, then came in here to see what people think. I haven't read anything but this page, but if you've been able to fill 19 pages with complaints I'm impressed!

I don't like it much, but that's because all high fantasy is crap. I'm going to keep screwing around for a bit because despite hating high fantasy I do like dragons.

BTW, I call it "sky rims".

-Wes
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[Mr. Mechanical]

I like the game, but apparently I haven't been having real fun while playing it because real fun doesn't exist in games like this.
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[TXTSWORD]

[GrimmSweeper]

It's more of a curve of liking the game and then finding niggling bits and pieces that detract from the experience. You are seeing that tail end.

Like this bitch of a combination. Some Draugr Death Lords are strong enough that their 'shout' will blow you off your feet, causing your character to flail like a rag doll until you settle on the ground. Then you are helpless watching your character slowly get back to their feet (five fucking seconds). If this Death Lord has a bow and has randomly generated some higher level arrows, all it takes is one shot to blow through highest level armour and take off more than 280 HP.

Mind, I also had one of the Silver Hands one-shot me with his silver greatsword. You know the 3rd person cut-scenes you perform sometimes when an opponent is at low health? HE did that to me. And he wasn't like a boss or anything; just a random mook generated at character level 50+. I think it took like three power attacks to take him down after I reloaded, unless I just upped and stealth ganked him.


Still playing it myself but it's because I still have a few goals I want to accomplish. Once they're reached, I don't have any inclination to play further.

Also found that I had hoarded like 500+ normal gems of various flavours. Took awhile to sell them off because merchants are useless without Investment.

EDIT: Oh, there's this one place I want to get into somewhere far West that had random dudes called Afflicted spewing poison at me inside some Dwarf ruins. The gate to get inside is locked with a key. No idea where to start, betting it's part of the Companion's quest line (process of elimination, finished off the other guilds'; seems a bit big for a one-shot quest).

[Ronnoc]

[remote]

[Mr. Mechanical]

[Ronnoc]

Oh, you're not actually having real fun after all

[Mr. Mechanical]

What is real fun?
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[TXTSWORD]

Intercourse.

[Mr. Mechanical]

No I mean in a videogame. Intercourse is something that can only happen between people.
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[Mr. Mechanical]

Or I guess you're saying real fun doesn't exist in videogames?

It's conversations like these that make me want to stop talking about videogames with anyone period.
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[TXTSWORD]

Sorry I should save this posting for the axe. I feel ill equipped to give a thought out serious answer so I did that instead. Not that I couldn't give an answer, I just don't want to embarrass myself.

[remote]

[TXTSWORD]

Yeah I don't want to diminish your fun. Just that the actual gameplay and writing are pretty seriously not fun in Skyrim. That exploring dungeons is only made fun by the loot you can find there and the reason for the loot being there - but when you don't NEED it any more then it's pretty hard to go into ANOTHER samey dungeon to get more of the same shit that you have no use or desire for. Exploring the environment was probably the only REAL fun and that can only go so far as it doesn't have much to offer beyond "see cool thing". At the point that you become a superhero, enemies are just obstacles between you and... what? Getting to the next checkpoint? Clearing another dungeon? Of course the sockpuppets you're supposed to interact with on a regular basis is the most empty and depressing part. I would rather be in a videogame world than in a ~real world~ that is totally unconvincing. It's just too heartbreaking.

[Mr. Mechanical]

I see, remote, so according to you because this game isn't as good as that other game (a completely subjective judgment, I might add, no matter the rationale behind it) a person spending a lot of time with it isn't actually getting enjoyment out of it but is rather driven by some kind of compulsive disorder? That's really presumptuous and frankly quite offensive. I see this sort of reasoning in discussions about politics all the time but I guess it can applied to other subjects as well.

Maybe I shouldn't have said comfort food. See, I was trying to be diplomatic and recognize that we have different tastes and so forth but apparently I've grossly misrepresented myself. What galls me is that we're talking about two pretty big, mass market games (and if you don't think Dark Souls is mass market go check the page count for the thread at NeoGAF) but it's only okay enjoy one because enjoying the other is a sign of mental illness or something.

[remote]

One: I said compulsive, not compulsive disorder. Two: Uh, what? I realize Dark Souls is a popular mass-market game aaaand this has fuck-all to do with anything we're discussing here. I'm not sure why you're getting all bent out of shape, but I wasn't insulting you at all, let alone even implying anything about mental illness. Chill the fuck out.

[SuperWes]

I've noticed a trend around here with games that have an ambitious scope (Deus Ex, Skyrim). People tend to put so much emphasis on the bugs and design imperfections to the extent that they're blinded to the things the game does well. That's ok! I personally don't play games because I have a fetish for stable software.

-Wes
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[remote]

Then you're not really paying attention, because I played the game for over 40 hours and made several posts in this thread talking about how gorgeous I thought it was and how I was pleasantly surprised and impressed at how I had finally been drawn into an Elder Scrolls game for more than 10 hours. It took a while, but the game gradually fell apart as I kept playing and this began to paint my overall impression in a more and more negative light. I hardly have a fetish for stable software — some of my favorite games have their fare share of bugs and glitches — but what really sets Skyrim apart is that for every bit of it that seems ambitious and far-reaching in scope, the rest of it feels half-assed and ridiculous.
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[Felix]

Yeah, Wes -- the "bugs and glitches" are historically the best part of Elder Scrolls. Trust me, that's not the issue. If you read through this thread, you'll see more or less total consensus on all of the things that this game does well and does poorly, because they're eventually blindingly obvious. It's a relatively easy game to like in spite of itself, but it falls down spectacularly in many/most of the respects in which it is supposed to have real merit.

If Morrowind is an accidental and ebullient A-, and Oblivion is an overburdened C+, Skyrim is a solid B -- resplendent and moronic.

[TXTSWORD]

[Mr. Mechanical]

Sorry I snapped at you, remote. It's a silly thing to get upset about but it happens. Hopefully you can see how I could have read that in your comment.

I'm also still confused about this whole real fun business but if no one wants to pursue it I'm okay with that.
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[TXTSWORD]

I keep waiting for someone more intelligent to cover for me.

[Ronnoc]

Ok fine.