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Dark Age Iron Savior
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:08 pm        Reply with quote

Talbain wrote:
Yeah, seeing this game so far makes me glad I didn't buy it. Xanadu Next is pretty entertaining, and free (recently translated into English).


how is that free? You have to buy or pirate it, just like Skyrim.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:09 pm        Reply with quote

I don't know, I'm not using hotkeys or favorites for anything so far and I think the UI is fine. Whenever I need to equip something I'm in and out in a couple seconds. I like that I can just use wasd + e and tab for everything. And with the armor/damage/gold ratings I can tell at a glance whether whatever I'm looking at is worth equipping/picking up or not so that's nice too.

I'm almost level 5 now. I completed Bleak Falls Barrow and spent most of it burning stuff up with my dual fire spells. I liked that there were some light puzzles and traps throughout the place. I hope there's more where that came from. After I got out of there I went back to Riverwood to return the golden claw and on the way discovered an old woman in a shack who was secretly some kind of alchemist because she had an alchemy lab in her basement. She tried to silence me for learning her secret but I silenced her first and got out of there then I hung out with Alvdor or whatever his name is in Riverwood and had him teach me how to smith and forge and stuff. Then I went and found his wife and she told me to stay away from her husband. Then I played hide and seek with their daughter in the rain. Listened to the bard at the inn sing a song and then did a little mini-quest for him. Now I'm back in Whiterun and I'm about to fight my first dragon.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:20 pm        Reply with quote

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This game looks like crap on my PS3. It's basically Oblivion with less colors. I sure hope this console generation is on its way out.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:22 pm        Reply with quote

Dark Age Iron Savior wrote:
Talbain wrote:
Yeah, seeing this game so far makes me glad I didn't buy it. Xanadu Next is pretty entertaining, and free (recently translated into English).


how is that free? You have to buy or pirate it, just like Skyrim.

You are correct. The translation's free though, and for my money I'd rather play Xanadu Next over Skyrim.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:28 pm        Reply with quote

That first dragon goes down a little too easily, if you ask me.

Seriously, though, I wish Skyrim had some more rigidly enforced gender roles, because this game makes me feel like a rapist.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:38 pm        Reply with quote

is one of the guilds run by jack the ripper or exactly what are you being asked to do where there is a disproportionate focus on murdering women and stealing their clothes?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:52 pm        Reply with quote

You gotta sell that armor!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:15 am        Reply with quote

I'm always way too overloaded with my own armor and a pile of weapons and ore and flowers and shit to even think about stealing my victims' clothes for pocket change. I probably haven't looked through all the perks closely enough, but I really hope there's one that increases the load I can carry. At least I have this companion, Lydia, to lug things around for me.

Companions are nice to have around, but Lydia sure isn't as entertaining as any of the companions from New Vegas.

I guess I've pretty much settled on making my dude a barbarian with two-handers and heavy armor with a little bit of magic thrown in. I'm enjoying the blacksmithing and alchemy stuff, and I've crafted most of the armor I'm wearing now and refined it all up to superior quality.

This game is kind of gorgeous.



On my way to my current destination I climbed a mountain and stumbled upon a second dragon. He was pretty easy, too, but these fights are just fun to look at.



When I got to the bottom of the mountain I found some kind of derelict old dwarf fortress occupied by bandits and some kind of goblins or whatever.



I don't know much about TES lore — are there actual dwarves in this universe, or are they extinct?



Anyway, continuing onward... It's kind of weird that this game seems to be about as good as I'd hoped. At the very least it has held my interest far longer than Oblivion ever did.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:17 am        Reply with quote

they're mostly extinct
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:19 am        Reply with quote

I played a bit more and finally started doing the main quest in between wiping out bandit lairs.

The new flame atronachs look neat.

Does anyone know why you sometimes OHKO enemies, and it plays a special animation? I haven't found any reason to it other than it looking EPIC.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:26 am        Reply with quote

Maybe if it calculates a crit and it would be enough to kill them it triggers the animation?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:45 am        Reply with quote

I watched Day9 play this

there was a big tall mountain and a lot of boring cliches and tediousness and the same stupid leveling system

sounds about right
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:46 am        Reply with quote

I'm getting the feeling that going through this again as some kind of thief mage would be a lot of fun.

Anyone know why it is that certain shouts don't seem to work immediately after you get them? The Frost and Dismay shouts do nothing for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:14 am        Reply with quote

I'm probably gonna finish it, but after playing a whole lot of it yesterday I basically just feel like I'm playing Oblivion again. I don't know why people were saying the combat was worth writing home about. It IS more functional than Oblivion in that aspect, but still.

What I did appreciate is how it wedges in a bit of forced sightseeing by making you travel by foot to places before opening a fast travel option to that place.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:12 am        Reply with quote

Bza, the guy you're slo-mo-KOing in that picture looks exactly like my character.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:12 am        Reply with quote

this game is so weird

btw who's bright idea was it to add cinematic takedowns that you not only can't disable but also the enemies can use them as well?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:51 am        Reply with quote

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Anyone know why it is that certain shouts don't seem to work immediately after you get them? The Frost and Dismay shouts do nothing for me.


You have to fight dragons and absorb their souls first, then you can spend them on shouts.

I just got done playing for like three hours straight and I'm just now at the spot where I can take the 7,000 steps up to High Hrothgar and meet the Greybeards and move the main quest along again. I keep getting distracted trying to get from point A to B though.

I'm halfway to level 8 and I've been focusing mainly on archery and destruction magic. I've found/bought a bunch of spell tomes so now I know a big mess of all kinds of spells. Using magic is really fun so far.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:11 am        Reply with quote

But I did, I think...? At least for the Frost one, I know I killed a dragon and then walked up to some runes and absorbed the shout. For the Dismay shout I didn't fight any dragons, but absorbed it from runes on a wall just the same — and it's confusing, because they're listed under my shouts just like the ones I can use, can be added to my favorites and hotkeyed, etc. So it doesn't seem to make any sense.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:15 am        Reply with quote

Mr. Mechanical wrote:
I keep getting distracted trying to get from point A to B though.
I'm halfway to level 8


Don't feel bad, I'm almost 28 and I just finally talked to the Jarl in Whiterun. Things keep happening like getting into a drinking match with a guy in a bar over a staff, and waking up in a temple in a town across the map that I've never been to.

On the plus side, my pickpocketing has been very lucrative, here is my fully furnished house :)


All my non-cash stolen goods are in the upstairs chest, because I haven't figured out how to fence them off yet.

Here are some general hints I've figured out:
-Like Oblivion, some books give you skill ups when you read them! Look for books with a value of 50 or more, typically those are the ones that give you skill ups.
-There is a quest in the starting town that sends you off after a bounty, which turns in at the next town. You can find a spell book during that quest that will make you pretty rich, in conjunction with the smithing skill!
-Another good way to make money is by holding onto every hide you get. You can turn them into leather and make leather armor out of them, and then sell them to blacksmiths. This and the aforementioned spell will get your smithing skill up pretty high! (Also if you steal hides, the leather and gear you turn them into can be sold even though the hide was stolen)
-If you use the previous two hints, you'll find that you can fortify your armor and weapons to a pretty hefty extent! The blacksmiths usually sell what you need in order to upgrade your stuff.
-Don't fight two mammoths and a giant at once.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:45 am        Reply with quote

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But I did, I think...? At least for the Frost one, I know I killed a dragon and then walked up to some runes and absorbed the shout. For the Dismay shout I didn't fight any dragons, but absorbed it from runes on a wall just the same — and it's confusing, because they're listed under my shouts just like the ones I can use, can be added to my favorites and hotkeyed, etc. So it doesn't seem to make any sense.


The way I think it works is you have to absorb the dragon soul after you get the shout from reading it off a wall or whatever. I only have the one shout you get from Bleak Barrows Fall and I couldn't use it until after I fought that first dragon and absorbed the soul.

That's a nice house Flylighter! Thanks for the tips though I think I already did that bounty quest. Haven't delved into the smithing yet I think I ought to pretty soon just to upgrade what I'm currently wearing.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:50 am        Reply with quote

remote wrote:
But I did, I think...? At least for the Frost one, I know I killed a dragon and then walked up to some runes and absorbed the shout. For the Dismay shout I didn't fight any dragons, but absorbed it from runes on a wall just the same — and it's confusing, because they're listed under my shouts just like the ones I can use, can be added to my favorites and hotkeyed, etc. So it doesn't seem to make any sense.


Absorbing the shout is only half of it. That just teaches you the word, but in order to actually use it you have to spend a dragon soul on it to unlock it, unless it's given to you as part of the story (as with Unrelenting Force.)

I'm not sure whether I want to support the Imperials or the Stormcloaks in the civil war. On one hand, the Imperials are invaders in a foreign land, and they tried to cut my head off. That makes me mad! On the other, I managed the lengthy hike up to the Stormcloak captial of Windhelm (on my way to Winterhold for the mage people) and the first thing I see when I get in are some douchebag Nords sexually harassing a dunmer. So now I'm torn :(
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:52 am        Reply with quote

Protip: Dragon corpse pieces are heavy! I didn't realize this until after killing my second dragon on the way to High Hrothgar. I ended up fast-traveling back to my house in Whiterun and deposited my dragon crap in the chest - it was nearly half my encumbrance, ugh.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:56 am        Reply with quote

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I'm not sure whether I want to support the Imperials or the Stormcloaks in the civil war.

Always vote Septim. Always.
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Guys if you're mining ore veins, make sure to stop your character after every three taps on the vein. It seems each vein gets hit 9 times before being depleted, but the game gives you two ore per vein if you just let it do its thing. You can trick it into giving you three ore if you stop every 3 hits!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:19 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
Gideon Zhi wrote:
I'm not sure whether I want to support the Imperials or the Stormcloaks in the civil war.

Always vote Septim. Always.


Except the Empire isn't controlled by a Septim anymore, is it? I though that bloodline died off with Martin at the end of Oblivion.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:24 am        Reply with quote



I like my new armor.


Gideon Zhi wrote:
CubaLibre wrote:
Gideon Zhi wrote:
I'm not sure whether I want to support the Imperials or the Stormcloaks in the civil war.

Always vote Septim. Always.


Except the Empire isn't controlled by a Septim anymore, is it? I though that bloodline died off with Martin at the end of Oblivion.


Correct.
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Why is it that I've managed to take down three dragons so far, but am dispatched so easily by a single troll?
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Because these aren't Hobbit trolls, they're Willow trolls. Willow trolls are much nastier creatures, and they hit harder and faster than dragons I guess?
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Gideon Zhi wrote:
CubaLibre wrote:
Gideon Zhi wrote:
I'm not sure whether I want to support the Imperials or the Stormcloaks in the civil war.

Always vote Septim. Always.


Except the Empire isn't controlled by a Septim anymore, is it? I though that bloodline died off with Martin at the end of Oblivion.

Reason #1 Why Oblivion Is Bullshit
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Have not even begun to start the main quest.

I really should.
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I killed an Imperial Courier who teleported in behind me in the wilderness while I was on some wildly exciting quest to kill a bandit and then when I went back for my Fabulous Reward later the Jarl's entire longhouse suddenly wanted to kill me. Which was fine with me because the Jarl was an insufferable prick and an imperial flunky anyway except every single motherfucker in there was an essential NPC and thus, invulnerable. Also they'd gotten on Nord Twitter to alert every single guard in the world to my heinous crime (which nobody was around to witness in the first place).

So yeah furiously refreshing skyrimnexus for the de-Oblivionication mods.

Also I guess necromancers just attack everything on sight? Shit lady I'd be down for summoning some skellingtons, we could've been best friends if you hadn't been such a bitch.
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remote wrote:
This game is kind of gorgeous.



You know, that's one thing that strikes me about this game. Normally I see graphics as a means to an end. Something like FF13 or Mass Effect or something comes out, and my first reaction is "Wow, that sure is pretty" but after an hour or so I've ceased to notice the graphics and am totally focused on the gameplay. I probably dropped ten hours into Skyrim yesterday, and even late in the day I kept stopping just to stare at it. It's one thing for a game to be pretty, it's another for it to be continually pretty. Sure okay it has a few rough edges here and there, but goddamn. Stand on a rock outcropping inside the courtyard at High Hrothgar and tell me that the view isn't just fucking incredible.
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Today I learned that falling a fair distance will INSTANTLY kill you. In midair. Without warning. Although in my case I may have tried jumping from the top of Dragonreach down to the first level's roofs and the developers didn't like that. Haven't fallen from any great heights on the mountains so I guess we'll see. I also managed to hurt myself minorly from time to time from trying to wade through skulls or other lightweight two-hand sized objects lying around on the ground. Harder to manage in Fallout but it was still possible, so I guess that's just a product of the engine itself.

Also, GlitterMIST cavern. Cool atmosphere, alien-like surroundings. Good flow up until you start encountering the insect monsters that start with C. Hate them.

There was a bandit guy on the summit that wrecked me early on. Since I wouldn't be selling any of my stolen goods anytime soon, I had a strong paralytic poison (very expensive too!) handy. Instead of stealthily ambushing him like last time, I just rushed him with my treated sword and started wailing. First touch he stiffened up and after several strikes he received a cinematic death. Then I went down and dispatched his blind man henchman. Him and any two-hander bandits are scary damage dealers if they hit you. I also like how different one-handed weapons feel compared to two-handed weapons. I toyed around with a greatsword for a bit before settling on maces.


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"Alright, I'm gonna boot it up and do a few quests in the main storyline. Right off the bat."

Six hours later, I'm in another new town across the map, knee-deep in Thieves' Guild business, fencing off my vast collection of stolen goods whenever the fence recharges her purse, level 33, exactly 0 dragons killed and 0 quests further in the main story from where I started.

What I love are the little tidbits of information you get exclusively by pickpocketing/lockpicking into places you don't belong (I'll spoiler them but I don't think they're major plot points):

-While the Gray-manes and Battle-borns are at each others' throats, two of them are in love like Romeo and Juliet!
-There is one truly generous philanthropist in the town of Riften, and he has a gold-digging wife who is cheating on him, probably with multiple people.
-The workers' group-home keeper in Riften is basically a Dibella-worshipping sex goddess.
-This was in a certain rich woman's basement behind a master-locked door:


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Gideon Zhi wrote:
I'm not sure whether I want to support the Imperials or the Stormcloaks in the civil war. On one hand, the Imperials are invaders in a foreign land, and they tried to cut my head off. That makes me mad! On the other, I managed the lengthy hike up to the Stormcloak captial of Windhelm (on my way to Winterhold for the mage people) and the first thing I see when I get in are some douchebag Nords sexually harassing a dunmer. So now I'm torn :(


I came here to make pretty much exactly this post. Maybe I'll just have to dodge the main quest for a time, while I make up my mind.

But yeah, goddamn, I just want to stop and gaze at everything.

Dark Souls is still #1 for me this year, but this is going to end up surprisingly high on my list.
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Flylighter wrote:
-The workers' group-home keeper in Riften is basically a Dibella-worshipping sex goddess.

I always like to pretend that my character is a devotee of Dibella, but that never means anything in any TES game except Daggerfall, where it means very little. Always wished that there were a more robust way to interact with religion in TES other than "you can do one quest for each Daedra that will get you an artifact."
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I went to Riften wanting to join the Thieves' Guild, ended up lost in the Ratways fighting off angry vagrants and lowlifes. Hope I didn't kill any guild members...
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Running into the black screen crash in Glittermist Grotto. I'm going to see if backing out of there entirely will change things because damn is this frustrating. Otherwise sixth time I'm going to crank down the settings and see if that fixes it.
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CubaLibre wrote:
"you can do one quest for each Daedra that will get you an artifact."


this, for the record, is effectively my only memory of Oblivion. I remember getting the fire sword and the fire-sword-recharging sword and alternating between the two, and then there was nothing else to do because it killed everything in the game. I'm ... really glad that magic is more fun in this one. Though in light of my earlier comments about how nice and natural the two-handed casting feels, I've been feeling more and more like there are some missed opportunities for actually combining two spells on the fly.

Speaking of which, anybody know when better magic becomes available in Skyrim? I'm at the embassy quest, level 6, and I'm still mostly just using the stock Flames skill for offense. This reminds me that I wanted to make a point about how impressed I am with the removal of any core STR/INT/AGI stats from the game. I don't remember if they were in Oblivion or not, but I think that ensuring your character will always be roughly as good at hand-to-hand combat as they are at spellcasting -- plus or minus a few perks and equipment bonuses, all weapons and magic do a fixed amount of damage -- is the best way to maximize enjoyment of a game that's obliged to tread so close to the centre of generic high fantasy. The character creation (and race traits being what they are) still seems slightly at odds with this particular take on "replayability," but Nethack this is not, and I'm glad to see some acknowledgment of that.

I've already put more time into the game than I really wanted to, and I know I'll play a bunch more even though the prospect is slightly boring. I should really hold off at least a month or two for some decent mods to show up.
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So, uh, looks like that Oblivion enemy-levelling scheme is either gone entirely or greatly reduced, because some of these missions I'm going on are clearly beyond the ken of my poor level 8 shaman. When some little goblin guy can chunk out 3/4ths of your health in a single hit and he swings twice a second, it puts the fear of The Nine in you pretty good. When you have to fight him and and giant dwemer mech simultaneously, that's the game telling you to Get The Fuck Out And Come Back Later.

I'm okay with this!

I still kinda cheesed them to death by getting my lightning bolt hits in and then running away until he leashed back to his starting point several times, but meh.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:32 pm        Reply with quote

I was thinking about the stat removal thing last night. It's an interesting approach, certainly, and keeps the game from being breakable in hilarious ways, like Morrowind's Potion of Fortify Intelligence 23,103,664 Points for 30Mo 26d 15h 24m 46s. But on the other hand, it keeps the game from being breakable in hilarious ways, and it was always kind of fun finding those ways. I liked being able to break an unbreakable Bound Sword over Vivec's head in one attack 'cuz I was too strong to wield it without it breaking :(

The problem with perks is that if you make a bad decision, you're basically stuck with it (unless there's a way to reset your perks, which would be *really* nice, even if it's expensive or only doable on a per-constellation basis.) Of course, this was a problem with traditional stats and leveling too to some extent, but at least with that you could almost always fix your screw-ups by enchanting your equipment, frequently in multiple ways. When I leveled in Oblivion I could drop a few points into a stat that would increase my aptitude with MULTIPLE things, not just one. That kind of bugs me with this.
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