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Flylighter
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 Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:51 pm |
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There's my character, she's a total babe. She's also going to be an absolute brigand. I just levelled up for the first time by pickpocketing a ring from the innkeeper!
I don't know who this character is but I'm pretty sure it's Saul Tigh.
The first and only thing I've eaten so far is venison!
Also get ready for berrypick extravaganza again.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:21 am |
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It's funny because that video applies directly to my character, I decided to make a thieving, pickpocketing backstabbing jerk. I dunno though, that sort of takes the fun out of it.
I levelled up four more times pickpocketing the shit out of people. This lady offered me the key to her house as an invitation to help myself to supplies. However, the 'take gift' screen came up blank because I'd already pickpocketed the key off her, and her house was already looted. I also got a necklace that makes me block better with my hide buckler! Also got a sweet orcish bow. You can pickpocket right the fuck in front of other people though. Just as long as you're behind the victim, other bystanders won't care. So uh, that's silly.
I forgot to mention it took all of three minutes of play time before I had to start managing my carry weight with stuff I wanted to sell. Way to go on that bit I suppose, I have to play the weight-to-value-ratio game again. You can also run over foot-high physics objects, kicking them into yourself for damage. I also watched my beginning-of-game companion hit an enemy so hard the ragdoll(?) flew across the cavern and clear through the ceiling, never to be seen again. Also the UI is disgusting, clearly a husk of the console UI. ALSO, setting favorites for weapon-switching doesn't work right now, so switching between my bow and my dagger/buckler is a massive pain in the ass, amplified by having to navigate the UI to do so.
My character is still a total babe though.
That's cool on the Saul Tigh bit B Coma, I looked it up and was excited that the guy's getting work.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:00 am |
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Ok guys,
1. Pay the archery trainer in the town to skill up your archery
2. Pickpocket the money back, skilling up your pickpocketing
3. Pay the trainer again to skill up again
4. Pickpocket the money back again, skill up pickpocketing again
5. Level up! You beat Skyrim
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:06 am |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
| Flylighter wrote: |
Ok guys,
1. Pay the archery trainer in the town to skill up your archery
2. Pickpocket the money back, skilling up your pickpocketing
3. Pay the trainer again to skill up again
4. Pickpocket the money back again, skill up pickpocketing again
5. Level up! You beat Skyrim |
Dude if you beat up the hooker you can get your money back. |
This hooker's ugly.
And now, the video:
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:14 am |
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I'm probably gonna finish it, but after playing a whole lot of it yesterday I basically just feel like I'm playing Oblivion again. I don't know why people were saying the combat was worth writing home about. It IS more functional than Oblivion in that aspect, but still.
What I did appreciate is how it wedges in a bit of forced sightseeing by making you travel by foot to places before opening a fast travel option to that place.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:15 am |
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| Mr. Mechanical wrote: |
I keep getting distracted trying to get from point A to B though.
I'm halfway to level 8 |
Don't feel bad, I'm almost 28 and I just finally talked to the Jarl in Whiterun. Things keep happening like getting into a drinking match with a guy in a bar over a staff, and waking up in a temple in a town across the map that I've never been to.
On the plus side, my pickpocketing has been very lucrative, here is my fully furnished house :)
All my non-cash stolen goods are in the upstairs chest, because I haven't figured out how to fence them off yet.
Here are some general hints I've figured out:
-Like Oblivion, some books give you skill ups when you read them! Look for books with a value of 50 or more, typically those are the ones that give you skill ups.
-There is a quest in the starting town that sends you off after a bounty, which turns in at the next town. You can find a spell book during that quest that will make you pretty rich, in conjunction with the smithing skill!
-Another good way to make money is by holding onto every hide you get. You can turn them into leather and make leather armor out of them, and then sell them to blacksmiths. This and the aforementioned spell will get your smithing skill up pretty high! (Also if you steal hides, the leather and gear you turn them into can be sold even though the hide was stolen)
-If you use the previous two hints, you'll find that you can fortify your armor and weapons to a pretty hefty extent! The blacksmiths usually sell what you need in order to upgrade your stuff.
-Don't fight two mammoths and a giant at once.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:16 am |
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Guys if you're mining ore veins, make sure to stop your character after every three taps on the vein. It seems each vein gets hit 9 times before being depleted, but the game gives you two ore per vein if you just let it do its thing. You can trick it into giving you three ore if you stop every 3 hits!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:12 pm |
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"Alright, I'm gonna boot it up and do a few quests in the main storyline. Right off the bat."
Six hours later, I'm in another new town across the map, knee-deep in Thieves' Guild business, fencing off my vast collection of stolen goods whenever the fence recharges her purse, level 33, exactly 0 dragons killed and 0 quests further in the main story from where I started.
What I love are the little tidbits of information you get exclusively by pickpocketing/lockpicking into places you don't belong (I'll spoiler them but I don't think they're major plot points):
-While the Gray-manes and Battle-borns are at each others' throats, two of them are in love like Romeo and Juliet!
-There is one truly generous philanthropist in the town of Riften, and he has a gold-digging wife who is cheating on him, probably with multiple people.
-The workers' group-home keeper in Riften is basically a Dibella-worshipping sex goddess.
-This was in a certain rich woman's basement behind a master-locked door:
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:42 pm |
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The only thing that stood terribly out during last night's gameplay session was that my thieving exploits found me randomly happening upon the hilt of Mehrunes' Razor in some random farmer's dresser.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:34 pm |
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| Talbain wrote: |
| Anybody leveled up Sneak enough to get that silent roll ability? I'm kind of curious as to how it works. |
I should have it high enough by the next time I level up, and I think I have the prerequisites. If so, I'll try it out!
I'm in love with the power bash with the shield. I couldn't figure out how to actually perform one, even after looking it up (you hold block and then perform a strong attack). It's pretty awesome though, and combined with my one-hander perks, I occasionally pull off a shield power-bash stun right into a decapitation.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:30 pm |
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I was part of a particularly humble summoning ritual!
Here's me looking bad-ass, with a bad-ass arrow sticking out of my bad-ass chest (it's been there for days)
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:53 pm |
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I guess maybe I should look into the cooking stuff more. I ate some raw venison when I was still starting out, and it's been all potions from there. Frankly it's because of the insane game of weight-to-value ratio management we're forced into, that I'm always like 'leeks, potatoes, cabbage, wow those aren't worth shit' and hence an entire aspect of the game is unceremoniously dismissed.
This coming from a character with over 500 carry weight, too.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:09 pm |
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| geinou wrote: |
| Wow, I really like the armor. Please tell me a little more about it. |
In Tamriel, even the thieves have a god -- Nocturnal is her name, and she's said to subtly influence the fortune of the thieves. The Thieves' Guild acknowledges her existence and supposed influence, but that is where the conversation about Nocturnal stops. Or at least, for most people.
The Thieves' Guild in Skyrim has a secret splinter cell, comprised of three people: the late guildmaster Gallus, the master thief Karliah, and the current guildmaster Mercer Frey. What you see is the set of armor they wear. The chestpiece guards against frost and grants extra stamina, the helmet reduces the magicka cost of illusion spells, the boots muffle the sounds of the wearer, and the gloves grant extra lockpicking ability and enhance the damage of one-handed attacks.
If you want the armor for yourself, you'll have to become a thief and figure out how! Arrow in the chest not included.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:52 pm |
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This is the most important video I've ever made.
Rot in hell Imperial sympathizer
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:11 pm |
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| TXTSWORD wrote: |
| I kept trying to turn it up to hear this fucking thing and then suddenly it's yelling "mother fucker" across the entire office. |
Oh that is too good.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:27 pm |
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I can one-shot most important characters and NPCs at level 43, and then shit like random necromancers, undead guys and thugs are powerhouses that take all my stamina to kill.
So yeah, it does that classic scale-up bullshit. The stronger you get, the weaker you get.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:56 pm |
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| JoeX111 wrote: |
| Part of me really wants to start a second character, name him Garrett, and spend hours ignoring the quests and seeing how much loot I can steal and how the game reacts to this. |
I'm level 43 now, or maybe 44, and I haven't barely touched the main quest. No real reaction from the game, except what I choose to do sidequest-wise.
I do have enough money to buy and furnish 10 more houses though.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:53 pm |
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I'm finding neither game to be nearly as good as their predecessors (Demon's Souls, and namely Morrowind but also Daggerfall)
| DJ wrote: |
| Picking a lock with 100 lockpicking is still going to be much easier than picking it with a skill of 20, even if you've never spent a single point in that tree. |
It's funny you bring up that specific example, because I can tell you that it's either blatantly false, or barely true enough that it may as well be false. I have 77 lockpicking, and when I pick adept locks or better I put on Krosis (helmet, 20% easier lockpicking), a lockpick ring (20% easier), and my nightengale gloves (25% easier lockpicking). Expert locks are still a 2-3 pick pain in the ass, and master locks are still a 8-10 pick joke.
I picked my first master lock at maybe 25 lockpicking skill, went through probably 10 lockpicks, and I had none of the special enhancement items I have now. So I have no idea what the items -do-, but I can say that either lockpicking is broken or only gets easier with the aquiring of perks.
What I SHOULD have done is just kept the skeleton key instead of returning it, because apparently nobody in the thieves guild cares that I saved the guild from certain destruction.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:59 pm |
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| bza wrote: |
| As far as I can tell the Skeleton Key is just an unbreakable pick and doesn't confer any sort of bonuses. |
It confers the bonus of never breaking, is sort of my point. Never have to luck your way into finding the 2-pixel sweet spot in a master lock again before your 7th pick breaks, you'll never lose your spot. You just hone in until the lock opens.
Way more useful than the literally trivial bonuses Nocturnal offers you. At least at my level, anyway; the tendril bonus doesn't leech nearly enough health at level 43 for it to make a difference in the battle, my sneak is high enough that the invisibility serves no purpose, and the 'make them fight each other' spell is either bugged or has too high of a failure rate. And all of those are once a day spells! Skeleton key is infinitely more useful, I should have just stuck with it, especially considering like I said that the thieves guild doesn't seem to give a shit one way or the other that I completed the quest line. None of them even act like I'm anything more than 'the new guy'! What a waste.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:01 am |
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I think I'm almost done rebuilding the thieves' guild now (the main questline wasn't the only one for them apparently) and then I get to go back to the main story. In the meantime new merchants keep sprouting up down at the HQ, and the fence's cash reserves tripled and another fence presented himself in Markarth! So my earning power skyrocketed and I'm suddenly sitting on 150k.
I also have a wife that makes me a home-cooked meal every time I come home! She also runs a shop and I get cash (my 'cut') whenever I stop by. So that's an added bonus.
At level 47 I finally found the stones that accelerate skill learning for a given class. Wish I'd found those earlier.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:37 am |
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So here's what I did after finishing up the thieves' guild! (Most of it was actually done in tandem, but the end result/crafting happened afterward)
1. Max enchanting, and get smithing and alchemy as high as you can (ideally max both, I only maxed smithing though)
2. Gather a helmet, gloves, ring and necklace that help with alchemy potion strength (or enchant some gear to do so). Same idea for smithing gear, except switch the helmet with a chestpiece.
3. Gather a ton of hagraven claws/spriggan sap, snowberries, blisterwort and glowing mushrooms
4. Put on your alchemy-boosting gear and make potions of enhance enchanting and potions of enhance smithing
5. Get a set of combat gear you love, put on your smithing gear, drink a smithing potion, and upgrade it all
6. Drink an enchanting potion and enchant all of it!
Here's today's end result.
 
 
 
188% bow and one-hander damage, 116 health and stamina, 58% magicka regen and 47% more shield blocking damage!
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Flylighter
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:54 am |
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Wow enchanting is overpowered. I just made a set of gear that lets me cast destruction and restoration spells for free.
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