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allensmithee
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:47 pm        Reply with quote

LAST SAMURAI is top dollar.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:41 pm        Reply with quote

Jack Reacher was actually bad, sorry Cuba
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:41 pm        Reply with quote

My dad still has not recovered from how short Tom Cruise is
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:12 pm        Reply with quote

Ni Go Zero Ichi wrote:
It's time to break a taboo and mention that David Simon's writing shares a lot of the same vices as Joss Whedon's (he even considers Buffy his favorite show)

While I was watching it I could always immediately tell which episodes of The Wire were written by him and which weren't because in his episodes every character from every background talks like David Simon.


Man the problem with Whedonspeak isn't that they all sound like Joss Whedon it's that glib snark and sarcasm doesn't actually convey any personality or character at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:45 pm        Reply with quote

Both of those things in tandem are the problem.
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Renfrew
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:29 pm        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
You know what's a good "realistic" action-thriller? Jack Reacher. Got no acclaim from what I could see, but it's at near-Ronin levels of tactical funtimes.


I love me some Jack Reacher!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:32 pm        Reply with quote

yeah Jack Reacher ruled

Tom Cruise is totally insane but he knows how to make movies
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:55 pm        Reply with quote

Jack Reacher also got a lot of acclaim idk what cuba is doing maybe being a lawyer and dadding I guess but that's no excuse pffft
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:42 am        Reply with quote

I didn't hear no one talk about it around here. That's my only definition of acclaim.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:57 am        Reply with quote

Yeah for all his personal problems it's always just fascinating just seeing him do stuff in movies, be it beating the piss out of people, administering a verbal takedown or simply falling over a chair as in Collateral.

I really liked that Oblivion movie when I saw it when it came out. That's one that gets no acclaim but I thought it was great. Like a mixture of a bunch of new wave sf I enjoy. Plus the meeting outside of Tom Cruise's zone that triggers the flashback in the other guy was brilliant.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:17 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
You know what's a good "realistic" action-thriller? Jack Reacher. Got no acclaim from what I could see, but it's at near-Ronin levels of tactical funtimes.


No way, noticeably worse. Still pretty ok though. It's Shooter that made the gun-nuts happy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:06 am        Reply with quote

fuk_a_shooter though

fuk_all_fuqua_films_2015
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:00 pm        Reply with quote

what about edge of tomorrow? it was definitely one of my favorites from last year. there's just so much...technicality to it. like, from begining to end it has such a conscious, tangible control of its own rhythm. the first ten minutes just float about because it induces the viewer to be numbed by the ridiculous situation the character gets himself into, and then the definitive twist happens in a whim and it steps hard on the gas, minuciously controlling the pressure throughout the whole thing depending on what kind of speed it demands a scene to run at. it's pretty cool.

i definitely need to watch jack reacher, by the way.

(also emily blunt doing push-upsOH MY GOD)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:31 pm        Reply with quote

Edge of Tomorrow is definitely worth a watch. It gets really crappy and generic-action-movie-ey after the farmhouse. The climax is an absolutely joyless CG slog.

Still, everything on the beach is pure gold.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:39 pm        Reply with quote

shrugtheironteacup wrote:
The Jack Reacher: Port of Call Des Moines


F'real. Seriously, as much as i enjoyed Cruise in Reacher, it was Herzog as the bad guy that made me giddy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:07 pm        Reply with quote

I remember my reaction to Edge of Tomorrow being that it was doing a lot of similar stuff as Oblivion and I thought Oblivion did it better.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:56 pm        Reply with quote

Renfrew wrote:
I remember my reaction to Edge of Tomorrow being that it was doing a lot of similar stuff as Oblivion and I thought Oblivion did it better.


Still, if there was another glossy yet pulpy sci fi movie starring tom cruise in theaters every summer, the world would be a better place
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:06 pm        Reply with quote

Renfrew wrote:
I remember my reaction to Edge of Tomorrow being that it was doing a lot of similar stuff as Oblivion and I thought Oblivion did it better.

I'd agree, though I liked Oblivion a lot more than apparently everyone else did.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:03 pm        Reply with quote

Tom Cruises's secret power is that he's a goofy dork that reminds me of my Dad :3
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:13 pm        Reply with quote

steven seagal is a goofy dork that reminds me of my dad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:51 pm        Reply with quote

Sounds like someone's dad could beat up my dad
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:14 am        Reply with quote

Jupiter Ascending is, um, hmm

the Wachowskis created an original story that is a dead ringer for any number of YA novels or light novels aimed at girls and then made a big, dumb movie out of it. there is a character named Jupiter and she actually ascends to royalty and Channing Tatum is her protector/love interest who is loyal because he's part dog, but also tortured because they took away his wings and you better fucking believe they give him some stupid angel imagery and there's some nonsense about possible genetic memory and the main driving force of the plot is kind of like Soylent Green, except it's all business and

you know what, I'm going to stop writing about this because thinking about it is giving me a headache. at least it looked nice, I guess
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Ni Go Zero Ichi



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:29 am        Reply with quote

Did anyone see that live-action film by the creator of Evangelion starring Steven Seagal's half-Japanese daughter? That's been on my list forever.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:49 am        Reply with quote

notbov wrote:
Jupiter Ascending is, um, hmm

the Wachowskis created an original story that is a dead ringer for any number of YA novels or light novels aimed at girls and then made a big, dumb movie out of it. there is a character named Jupiter and she actually ascends to royalty and Channing Tatum is her protector/love interest who is loyal because he's part dog, but also tortured because they took away his wings and you better fucking believe they give him some stupid angel imagery and there's some nonsense about possible genetic memory and the main driving force of the plot is kind of like Soylent Green, except it's all business and

you know what, I'm going to stop writing about this because thinking about it is giving me a headache. at least it looked nice, I guess


Yeah the spaceships sure we're cool in that movie.
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allensmithee
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:05 am        Reply with quote

Im a huge Tom Cruise fan. JACK REACHER becomes 1,000,000 fans in my heart because it has a bathroom fight with ceramics getting smashed and Ive only seen the trailer!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:31 pm        Reply with quote

Ni Go Zero Ichi wrote:
Did anyone see that live-action film by the creator of Evangelion starring Steven Seagal's half-Japanese daughter? That's been on my list forever.


I saw Shiki-Jitsu several years ago.
It's ok.

The main thing I remember is that Ayako Fujitani is very pretty.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:37 pm        Reply with quote

Terminator Genysis was a dumb movie with lazy lazy plotting and dialogue and terrible cgi

But at least it was more entertaining than Age of Ultron
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:58 pm        Reply with quote

allensmithee wrote:
Im a huge Tom Cruise fan. JACK REACHER becomes 1,000,000 fans in my heart because it has a bathroom fight with ceramics getting smashed and Ive only seen the trailer!

That's a great fight.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:08 pm        Reply with quote

He hits a man with another man.

He only wins because those men get in each others' way.

Quality.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:14 pm        Reply with quote

Also, probably the only realistic representation of getting hit in the head with a blunt object I've ever seen in an action movie?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:51 pm        Reply with quote

Tom Cruise is in some good movies but I can never shake the impression of him as a walking, talking CGI effect
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:30 pm        Reply with quote

Renfrew wrote:
Terminator Genysis was a dumb movie with lazy lazy plotting and dialogue and terrible cgi

But at least it was more entertaining than Age of Ultron


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:22 am        Reply with quote

You guys were right, T2 is nothing compared to T1. Funny thing is, most of my friends disagree. The sequel has pretty good action, but the 90s soccer mom suburb filter has nothing on T1's visuals. Not to mention it's mostly a repeat of the first movie in terms of set-pieces.

Also that kid. THAT KID. Jeez.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:12 am        Reply with quote

T2 has "pretty good action." Kid, I don't know what you're looking for.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:21 am        Reply with quote

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the kid in T2 was a dealbreaker.

Honestly I'd probably rate the entire film a lot higher as what it is if it weren't for his shrill, whiney ass. He's almost as bad as Phantom Menace Anakin, only - for better or for worse - Anakid didn't have a kickin' 90's 'tude (instead he just had no personality whatsoever).
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:39 pm        Reply with quote

Renfrew wrote:
notbov wrote:
Jupiter Ascending is, um, hmm

the Wachowskis created an original story that is a dead ringer for any number of YA novels or light novels aimed at girls and then made a big, dumb movie out of it. there is a character named Jupiter and she actually ascends to royalty and Channing Tatum is her protector/love interest who is loyal because he's part dog, but also tortured because they took away his wings and you better fucking believe they give him some stupid angel imagery and there's some nonsense about possible genetic memory and the main driving force of the plot is kind of like Soylent Green, except it's all business and

you know what, I'm going to stop writing about this because thinking about it is giving me a headache. at least it looked nice, I guess


Yeah the spaceships sure we're cool in that movie.


The plot was completely silly and the characters were almost all laughably shallow but I enjoyed the look of all the tech, yeah.

I watched this on a plane in fairly turbulent skies and this greatly enhanced many of the action sequences for me so you suckers did it wrong
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:03 pm        Reply with quote

The T2 deal breaker for me was that at the end of 1, Sarah Conner has to save herself but at the end of T2 she had to be saved by Arnold.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:48 pm        Reply with quote

Man what kind of sad sack doesn't like Terminator 2: Judgement Day
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:20 pm        Reply with quote

https://youtu.be/o47mJDUluLw?t=51s :|
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:25 pm        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
T2 has "pretty good action." Kid, I don't know what you're looking for.


Prefer the likes of Die Hard and Predator, personally.

I think people misunderstood. T2 is solid as a stand-alone, but in comparison to T1, I am not as impressed. I acknowledge it's status as one of the most iconic action movies out there, but I wasn't personally as taken by it.

I think there was something Carpenter-ish about T1, and considering what a hard-on I have for Carpenter's output (as far as 80s is concerned), that might explain my feelings.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:46 pm        Reply with quote

Predator is maybe the greatest movie of all time (tied w/ The Conversation) and Die Hard is perfect* but T2 is executing on a whole other level action-wise.

It's a big stupid chromeheaded pile of obnoxious babby connor and leaden dialog but it doesn't matter because of things like the stuntman walking from the cab to the bed and onto the hood of the semi all crisp and perfect, etc.




*RIP McTiernan's cylinders
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