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costel



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:48 pm        Reply with quote

I was spewing so much hype while seeing The Raid, it was unbelievable. Afterwards, I walked back outside into the lobby and after days of anticipation finally quenched by the cinematic orgy of nihlistic violence, I just started a full fledged choreographed brutal fight scene with everyone in the lobby.

Six are dead.
Four will never walk again.



Nah in all seriousness, I absolutely adored the film and need some actual time to work out my feelings about the film and it's impact.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:57 pm        Reply with quote

I got some serious Metal Gear Solid vibes every time JCVD was on screen. Don't know why. Would take forever to properly explain myself. Told my friend's mom who went with us that it was pronounced "The Expand-Ables". She believed me. Don't know what that signifies either.


So Lawless. I liked it a lot better when it's working title was "The Wettest County", but I can let it go I suppose. As expected Hillcoat channels a lot of his tremendous scope and vision that propelled The Proposition into the annals of greatness and confines it in the miserable Southern Gothic counties of Great Depression America. Tom Hardy steals every scene he is in, and I have no doubt that had another actor possessed the lead, I'm thinking Michael Pitt in this instance, or Casey Affleck, the journey would've been that much sweeter. Hillcoat's usage of violence has once more become demonstrative of his noble endeavor to emulate McCarthy as much as he can on screen, and Nick Cave's witty penmanship seems to have been tuned down significantly. The propellant dialogue that carried The Proposition, or noticeably absent portions were both lacking in Lawless, it seems that every time someone appeared they had to say something. Something generic. Something that failed to communicate the motives or sheer sociopathy of the characters. I loathed with all of my being the narrator. It was fruitless and removed me from the experience. The Nick Cave sound track never hurt the film, yet failed to embolden it like his work on The Proposition. And perhaps, maybe that's what's missing is the sense of belonging in this script. The sense of kinship is there, but here again is a uniquely American film driven and cast by Europeans and Australians. I don't know what that says about the state of American cinema today.

A good film, but far from great. Guy Pearce turns in a delightfully weary and deranged villain performance though. Almost, almost worth the price of admission.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:54 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
I thought Tom Hardy was to the stoic paterfamilias stereotype what Brad Pitt was to the Tennessee good ol boy in Inglorious Basterds. That isn't exactly a compliment, because even though it was played for laughs pretty often I think it was clear that while we were chuckling at him, at our very core we were supposed to respect and fear him. But basically I just chuckled. He's still worth watching.


Agreed. Precisely in fact. Remember towards the very beginning of the film when he first wields his knuckle dusters and he's spouting some sort of philosophical gibberish? Just to confuse the fellow. Well, had he meant any of it, any of it at all, he would've been terrifying. Because he would've produced a thought other than maintaining the status quo. All the elements are there, but Arthur from The Proposition he is not.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:27 pm        Reply with quote

I wish Parker lived near me so we could go see Killing Them Softly together. I've heard some fairly good things from Dracko, anyone have any spoiler free thoughts about the film? (gonna see it tonight)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:38 pm        Reply with quote

boojiboy7 wrote:
Bullet to the Head was OK-ish, but focused too much on Stallone while not giving a shit about basically anyone else, which was a bit of a problem for a buddy cop thing.



Was there any former evidence of Walter Hill's time as a Peckinpah protege at work here? I want to see it for that reason alone, but that man has had a troubled couple years now.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:00 pm        Reply with quote

shrugtheironteacup wrote:
I like the awkward moments in Refn violence. They're like little islands of realism poking up from the sea of style.


I really like awkward violence in film. With very few exceptions, every display of it I've seen in life has been terrifyingly awkward and stilted.

I still have yet to see Only God Forgives, the closest theater that is showing it, is about six hours away from where I'm at. While I love visiting Miami, I can't make that commute anytime soon. So I guess I have to watch it on Amazon Video. :(

I find it interesting that the reaction on SB to the film has been quite positive. The continued traditions of Rehn's monomythic cinematic chants and fairy tale laced language seem to persist in a fascinating tradition. I really love the idea of Chang being One-Eye and while that thought will probably cloud my initial thoughts of the film, it is nothing more then a little "what-if" in reality. I wish I didn't have to go tutor so I could watch it now.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:08 pm        Reply with quote

shrugtheironteacup wrote:
Elysium has this Nolanesque fuck-my-images thing going on, especially in action scenes. It's all movement w/out stillness or connective tissue. A series of blows with no pauses for breath. Sequences have no rhythm, they're just stuff happening. I'm never confused just constantly thinking I'd probably like what I'm seeing if they'd just let me see it.

District 9 was like this too, but it coasted a bit on the outrageous splatter that Elysium is too reserved with.

The latter's also more obviously dumb.

(Also I'm sorry entire internet but I saw a several white people on Earth that weren't Matt Damon or Matt Damon's Mean Supervisor or Yobeardo)

(I couldn't even really appreciate the image of Yobeardo in his underoos attending the grill with a goddamn katana, it was edited so hasty. Thanks Production Stills.)

So anyway Neill Blomkamp makes a pretty fair production design wrangler.


Agreed. On most instances. This film lingered a lot more on how graphic the firearms effects were. The future just makes killing more efficient, not less messy. That point is painstakingly emphasized. In District 9, everyone who gets hit by the alien weapons just turns into blood baloons. It's effective though.

I think Wagner Moura should have been the main character. It's not that it's a terrible film, it's just stunted by a lack of connectivity and drive. A great point is the Chemtrail weapon. SPOILERS by the way, when Damon picks up the weapon, aims, it cuts to showing the mercenary run, and Damon begins to fire, the camera pans, and without impact or a sense of the ferocity of the weapon, he's blood balooned. That's it. The film then regains it's composure and carries on without realizing EVERYTHING else that is occurring at that moment. It's a shame.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:39 am        Reply with quote

So "You're Next" is the horror film I've always wanted, and "Upstream Color" may be one of the most beautiful films I have ever seen. As to why it's emotional impact was so severe, I cannot state. But it's Malick influence is undeniable.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:43 pm        Reply with quote

Ni Go Zero Ichi wrote:
No Country For Old Men had the virtue of being translated from McCarthy's prose to the screen by people (the Coen brothers) with the same kind of command and mastery over the language of cinema as McCarthy has over prose. They translated the tone and rhythm of his prose into cinematic equivalents, instead of just recreating its literal content. In writing for a film in the same way he writes for a novel, McCarthy has miscalculated how well his strengths as a writer of prose will lend themselves to a very different medium. (He wouldn't be the first renowned novelist to struggle with the unique demands of screenwriting.) Also, sometimes even great artists can just put out a plain old misfire.


There was a tremendous benefit hidden amongst the prose of NCFOM as a novel however, and that was the fact that it started out as a screenplay. McCarthy's flirtations with the format have lasted for years. It's only now that we've seen some unadulterated screenplay come unto fruition without any outside influence, and well, yeah. It is what it is I guess? As a McCarthy scholar I can't say that I'm thrilled with the final results. The first five minutes of the movie feel exactly like The Room as interpreted by Cormac McCarthy and that's terrifying. Yeah there's the traditional heralds of McCarthy's hand and fatalism at full steam here, but the movie would have felt more on pace with someone like Terrence Malick, but the violence would be lacking. If Refn handled it, it would be too obfuscated by it's own preoccupation with violence and communication through ulterior means to function.

All in all, I felt that this film was such a roller coaster. From it's initial unveiling, to it's cast, to it's promise, there was so much riding on this film that it could never, ever, live up to it's lofty expectations. But at the same time, there are some god damn right amateur moments in this film that I'm amazed it made it past editing without someone going "HEY! HEY! CAMERON DIAZ CANT ACT WORTH A DAMN! MAYBE WE SHOULD CUT THIS OUT OR HAVE SOMEONE ADR HER LINES BECAUSE THIS IS TERRIBLE." Giving her the ending monologue was a god damn war crime. If Kirstin Scott Thomas sold sleaze and power beyond any shadow of a doubt in Only God Forgives, then I believe that maybe Diaz could have as well, but for whatever reason it wasn't happening and I wasn't buying it.

I can say this. Brad Pitt is the best character actor of our time. I hope his trend of playing "low to mid level criminal professional with moderate degree of wit" continues.
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