[Drem]

[klj5j6li]

[Deets]

Currently playing this just holla if you want in

XBL: JDMDeets

[Toto]

Adi if you're concerned with learning the game I recommend Jean. His inputs are simple, and he has relatively straightforward ways of putting opponents into the kind of guessing situation that is necessary for good damage combos.
I think this is a large part of why he was included in the game: Akira, the poster boy for the series (in a way), has difficult inputs and is overall relatively more difficult to play. Jean is more straightforward.

[klj5j6li]

I forgot about Jean! I'd rank him as kind of middle-to-high in terms of difficulty to play though. I found it really frustrating trying to find gaps where I could fit his charge moves in.

He has some really beastly easy-to-do combos though, and his move pool is fairly small and mostly simple enough that I think he'd be a pretty good first pick too. Have fun with all the mirror matches online, though.

[elvis.shrugged]

[Adilegian]

[klj5j6li]

[elvis.shrugged]

[klj5j6li]

Pro-side-stepping-tip: If you hit a button after side-stepping the other player will immediately begin tracking you. That's probably why his little auto-combos are hitting you.

Another pro-tip: if you're getting hit by 2P a lot, at least for me, it's because you're trying to do a standing move after blocking/connecting with a 2p. I don't know if it's completely obvious, but it takes about 5 frames to stand up or crouch down, so shifting from a crouch to a standing position gives up a pretty large amount of your advantage. This is where those moves that begin with a down-charge come in handy!


Edit:

GGs to the PSN crew tonight. Sorry about all the Lau play, but I just found out today that his voice actor is also the narrator for HnK and that immediately shot learning him up to the top of my priority list. Get used to oooRRAAAGHHH

[Persona]

I need to train more so I can rumble with Dinghy and Diplo
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[Guillotine]

[boojiboy7]

Man I need to play a lot more of this.

[Cynic]

[klj5j6li]

But can you input a block during the transitional frames?

[analogos]

[Cynic]

[klj5j6li]

Okay uh, what I mean is I know it's an EX Low, I was talking about how you might think you could do a quick standing elbow or something after blocking a 2p or hitting with your own 2p.

I was just trying to point out that there are frames where you are moving from a crouch to a stand or a stand to a crouch and that they're something you need to be aware of. But if you're just going from a low guard to a middle guard then yeah, no problem.

[analogos]

hm. to be honest i don't know a lot about non-offensive frame data in VF (standing, crouching, knockdowns, wake-up, rolling, dodging, etc.). if the idea is that a move presents as a low so you crouch in response even though you could've high blocked it and as a result of that reflexive reaction you incur more recovery frames than you would have if you'd just kept guarding high, that would be a pretty interesting mechanic and make a decent amount of sense. beyond that i'm not 100% sure i get the point of EX Lows.

[klj5j6li]

Usually moves are just marked as EX because if they weren't EX they'd be way too effective, I think. If you had to block 2p low that game would be kind of a nightmare. Hell if I know what an EX High is for though.


edit: I looked it up:

EX Highs still whiff over crouching guard, but they can still CH crouching attacks.

EX Mids can be blocked low or high, BUT they force a low block to stand.

EX Lows can be blocked high or low and that's it they're just easier to defend.

edit 2:

[Drem]

I haven't watched it yet, but DandyJ has released a guide video for VF5 weighing at just over 2 hours and 40 minutes. He's the same person who released the excellent KOF guide videos a while back.

[klj5j6li]

there's a big ol SB lobby goin on on PSN right now! Ask Adilegian for an invite/friend request him I don't know oh god

[diplo]

Good six hour session

destroy me now lord

[smartblue]

Today I would have joined you guys but I didn't finish my stupid case report for class until midnight. I went online and lost endlessly to Dir_en_Grey_666's Akira as Shun. Yay.

I'm having a lot of fun, but man. I really suck at this game. I play with a pad because I've never felt comfortable with sticks in fighting games. VF is one of those games that seems to really call out for using a stick though, so I'm not really sure where that leaves me room to get better.
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[boojiboy7]

man, that was some fun times. the text chatting works better than i would've thought.

this game is some good stuff.

i am still terrible, though lei fei is still lei fei, so sometimes he can surprise people.

[Toto]

I main Lion, but today something clicked and I did Aoi's command training and I love it. I love the idea of match winning by just being in my opponents head and just reading their every move and using reversals.
I also love all of Aoi's strings that can be guard cancelled :) Playing around with Aoi, Lion, Jean and Wolf. Having too much fun to pick a main :(

[cake]

I finally got this game. I have no idea why as I am terrible at fighting games. If anyone wants to play I'm ylphr on PSN (I'm in the EU so I guess I won't be around at the same time as many of you). Don't expect much competition, though, but maybe other people are awful too.

[Persona]

Played at the arcade in Ikebukuro Giga! The sticks on the official cabs are so nice. I wonder what kind they use?

I got beat by a Jacky and Kage user a bunch of times but I was able to win 1/3 or so. Man, Jacky's kick flip can do so much damage ;_;
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[klj5j6li]

Guys there's a real big PSN lobby goin on ATM

[OffalAl]

this game is great times

[Sly Buccelli]

[diplo]

[klj5j6li]

Selectbutton revenge list:

Dir_En_Grey_666

XNastyx4xEverX

Tuch_MyBallz6969

[Drem]

It seems like the 30 second wait time between matches is here to stay.

[diplo]

If anyone's trying to learn Vanessa, here is a good video of combos. For myself, I know most of the inputs that are being done because I've devoted an hour or two to learning her moveset, but (like I said before, having no exposure to technical lexicon) I don't understand the signage for the pre-example inputs, like "D3P." Can someone here explain?

[Drem]

The 'D' probably means Defensive Stance and the rest is typical numpad notation. So 'D3P' means down-forward punch while in defensive stance. 'O' would be Offensive Stance.

[diplo]

Why does "3" mean "down-forward"?

[mauve]

[smartblue]

[smartblue]

God, who rage quits player matches?
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[Drem]