[tacotaskforce]

[Gorblax]

Right now, we're limiting ourselves to playable characters.

We've got Warriors Orochi 3 on the list already (thanks, Ryu Hayabusa). Is there anyone in the Samurai Warriors/Dynasty Warriors/What-Have-You series that isn't in that?
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[tacotaskforce]

Or I guess you can also get there in the same number of steps with Ryu > Amaterasu > Princess Kaguya

I want to say there's a way to get there faster with Joan of Arc but I just can't visualise it.

There's been a few characters newly added as playable to the musou series' after Orochi 3. 7 Empires had Xu Shu, though he was also a recruitable general in Kessen II. 8 has Yue Jin, Li Dian, Lu Su, Han Dang, Zhang Bao, Guan Xing, Guan Yinping, Jia Chong, Zhang Chunhua, and Wen Yang. A lot of those showed up as non-playable generic generals in earlier games, but I don't know if those count anymore.

It's a shame if you're only counting playable characters now, because that's going to knock Nellie Bly off the list (Since she's connected by rasputin, who isn't a party member in Shadow Hearts or Martian Dreams).

Believe you me I'm still trying to figure out how to get the Ghostbusters on this list.
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[Gorblax]

Man, I haven't even touched Kessen. That's a good tip.
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[Jigsaw]

Oh and Scorpion being in Injustice might I guess affect the DC characters who weren't in MKDC; Harley Quinn, Hawkgirl, Raven, Killer Frost, Black Adam, Bane, Solomon Grundy, Green Arrow, Batgirl, Aquaman, Cyborg, Nightwing, Ares, Sinestro, Lobo.

[Gorblax]

Yep, that's accounted for.
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[Gorblax]

I've never played any of the Kessen games -- how many of these characters I see on the Koei Wiki are actually playable?

I'd also appreciate some explanations re: how .hack works.
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[tacotaskforce]

.hack takes place in the far future year of 2010. In this desolate post-apocalyptic world all computer systems in the world have been wiped out by super viruses except for the computers of a single manufacturer. They quickly became the sole electronics provider for the entire world, and on their system they have only a single video game: The World. Most of the characters in .hack are the avatars of humans playing the game; the avatars themselves have no personality. A few characters in the games are AIs. The World has its own lore like any MMO, but the program was also designed as an incubator for the first human-like AI. The process of birthing this AI led to many areas of the game world being locked off and filled with junk data and half-formed sentient AIs.

I'm running into so many brick walls with Ghostbusters. The DLC packs for LBP and Reality Fighters are pretty explicitly just costumes, and not characters. The Ghostbusters also almost never fight public domain characters in the games. According to the instruction booklet for Ghostbusters Genesis one of the final bosses' forms is named Bazoozoo, which might be a mistranslation of Pazuzu, but that's not enough to link the two gods together. The most recent Ghostbusters mobile game has Jabberwocky and Boogeyman, but those might just be names and not *The* Jabberwocky and Boogeyman.
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[Gorblax]

I mean more like "who are the playable characters in the .hack games, is it just you in a fake MMO or do you have party members you can control"
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[tacotaskforce]

You can invite befriended characters to your party, and give them general tactics, but I don't believe any of the games lets you directly control them. During the game's storyline players will often be offline or busy and won't return invites, but in the post-game everyone is always available to be invited.

Also I'm not really sure how Kessen works, but a common feature in almost all the Musou Empires, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and Nobunaga's Ambition games is letting you pick any known general at any point in the timeline and play the game as them. Some of the games even have achievements for playing as a completely unimportant person and eventually rising high enough to unite the country.
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[Gorblax]

I just hit the 500th game in my database! You can find the full document here. If you spot any deficiencies, let me know!
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[Gorblax]

Mega Man in Super Smash Bros. is gonna shorten the connection between Namco/Capcom and Nintendo by 1 for basically every Nintendo franchise but Mario.
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[Take It Sleazy]

[tacotaskforce]

just as a confirmation on the new rules, do strikers count as playable? Summons? Characters that work like equipment?
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[Gorblax]

Nope, nope, and nope. You must assume direct control over the character for them to count.
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[Gorblax]

[Gorblax]

Nintendo really screwed up by not making Luigi an unlockable character for Ghostbusters on the Wii, tacotaskforce :(
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[Gorblax]

Actually now that I think about it a Pac-Man Maze Super Smash Bros. level would be pretty cool.
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[tacotaskforce]

Well, as a consolation they did add a female rookie, and the game doesn't freeze constantly in the last level like the PS2 version.

Too bad about the striker ban. That's going to make it harder for me to get Slayers on the list. I'm damn well going to try, though.
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[Gorblax]

Jeanne from Bayonetta may or may not actually be Jeanne d'Arc. I'm hoping for a confirmation so I can include her, and by extension all the Platinum games united by Anarchy Reigns.
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[tacotaskforce]

Goddamnit. I just found out that the Statue of Liberty is playable in the amiga version of Ghostbusters II, which would link the Ghostbusters to Earthworm Jim through Clayfighter 63 1/3 Sculptor's Cut, but I'm at a dead end from Jim. There's a Santa in Clayfighter, but he's understood to be an evil clone of the actual Santa.
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[Gorblax]

You're a total champ Lainer! There's got to be a way to connect the Statue of Liberty to the main web...
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[tacotaskforce]

So was the playable clause added because of Scribblenauts/card games?
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[Gorblax]

Amongst other things. I'm trying to keep the connections pure and unquestionable.
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[tacotaskforce]

Just seems like you're cutting out too many games and overemphasizing fighting/sports/strategy games. Maybe playable/has speaking role/has unique AI routine would be more inclusive?
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[Gorblax]

It's a slippery slope from there tacotaskforce. This could get really messy if I relax the "Playable Only" rule.

In other news though: even within the parameters of that rule, thanks to XBLA DLC packs, I just managed to connect a TON of important characters through Minecraft -- including, for the first time, Gordon Freeman, Chell, Joanna Dark, Barry Steakfries, the Sensei from Fruit Ninja, dudes from Fable, Borderlands, and Jet Force Gemini, Santa Claus, and Master Chief.
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[tacotaskforce]

Notable people who show up in MoH Underground's MP mode:

Manon
Jimmy Patterson
Philippe Petain
Marie Antoinette
Joan of Arc
Cyrano de Bergerac
Max Schreck/Count Orlok (debatable)
Napoleon
Quasimoto
Charles de Gaulle
The Statue of Liberty
Julia Child (debatable, probably doesn't count)

The rest have names that are too generic or common for me to tell if they're supposed to be real people. One oddity is Schalgermeister, who the gamefaqs cheat page refers to as Heino. Considering how the character is modeled in a smoking jacket, turtleneck, and sunglasses it seems as if he's supposed to be someone, but I can't figure out who.

ALSO:
appearing in MoH's MP mode are
Manon
Jimmy Patterson
Wernher von Braun
William Shakespeare
Winston Churchill
Rosie the Riveter

Doesn't seem like any of the other characters are unique.
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[tacotaskforce]

We don't have a link to James Bond yet, do we? I'll hold off on documenting the MP modes of these games until I find one.

New project: find a link for Drizzt.
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[The Blueberry Hill]

[tacotaskforce]

That would be him.

Now the question is how they got from Heino to Schalgermeister.
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[gary oldman dwarfism]

[The Blueberry Hill]

Going to have to change the name of my 'POP!' playlist, I think.

[Gorblax]

Incidentally, Lady Liberty now gives us access to ClayFighter, and in turn Earthworm Jim and Boogerman.
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[The Blueberry Hill]

Is The Statue of Liberty the character, or is Libertas?

[Gorblax]

I've been notating the character as Lady Liberty, which should cover both.
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[tacotaskforce]

Just a quick primer on SRW:

Axel Almer and Einst Alfimi are playable characters in SRW OG Saga EF: Exceed. They're also playable characters in SRW A and SRW Impact (respectively) and both are playable in SRW OGs and OG Gaiden (I think Gaiden has all the same characters as OGs plus a few extra, but it's a sequel to OGs so a few might be missing). SRW A and I will link to a bunch of licensed properties, including Amuro and Kouji Kabuto who are in damn near every SRW. OGs and OG Gaiden will link them to almost every OG character in the series, which could link them closer to a particular property.

When you said you couldn't tell if a particular unit was piloted by its actual pilot I think you were thinking of the SD series, which is a separate universe where everyone is a gundam. I don't know if there's a link to that particular universe, but the Lu Bu gundam in Gundam Musou 2 is from there.

I'll put together a list of the playable non-striker characters in Legend of Dynamic so that we can get Devilman and Cutey Honey on the list.

Legend of Dynamic:
Cutey Honey
Sister Jill
Akira Fudo
Sirene
Violence Jack
Slum King
Mitsuko Yagyu (Harenchi Gakuen)
Hige Gojira (Harenchi Gakuen)
Jiro Shutendo (Shutendoji)
Kitani (Shutendoji)
Enma-Kun
Kouji Kabuto (Mazinger Z)
Sayaka (Mazinger z)
Boss (Mazinger Z)
Ryoma Nagare (Getter Robo)
Shinichi (can't figure out this series)
Genzo
Susa (Susano Oh)
Uryuu (also unsure of this series)
Kekko Kamen
Kikkai-kun
Iron Kaiser
Ryo Utsugi (Mao Dante)
Miroku (Miroku)
Animal Kedaman
Dorano (Animal Kedaman)
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[Gorblax]

Thanks man but I've got it covered.

EDIT: wait, did you say some of these guys are strikers? I guess I don't have it.

As well as the OG angle, you can also work off the relevant Tatsunoko vs. Capcom characters.
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[Gorblax]

I've been gathering my information from this document:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/925600-super-robot-taisen-w/faqs/29673

Is it accurate to pull all the pilots as they are marked in this guide for each respective game as playable?
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[tacotaskforce]

Nope, that guide only lists appearances. Most of those pilots show up as antagonists.

None of the characters I listed are strikers. There's another 40 characters who are strikers/equipment. One of them being Go Nagai himself, who I wish I could get on the list.

Come to think of it, there might be a link to those SD games through kamen rider/ultraman, since kamen rider is always kamen rider even when he shows up in a soccer game.

Also I found a glitch in the site. Unless something's getting truncated the system thinks that Tekkaman Blade is in Showdown Legends of Wrestling.
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[Gorblax]

Oh yeah, I caught that. It'll be fixed in the next update.
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[Gorblax]

What is the actual, full title of the game you just posted the roster for?
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