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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Neo Kobe Pizza    Reply with quote

So, I'm supposed to be writing some important work today, but I thought I'd put it off by doing other things, like surfing the net - this work will hopefully never get done.

Has anyone else tried the pizza dish mentioned in Konami's Snatcher - Neo Kobe Pizza? Where you submerge a slice of pizza in soup? I've tried it quite often, and find it's rather damned bloody excellent. I have it about once a week.

It was actrually supposed to be Akashiyaki in the Japanese original, but the translators changed it to pizza and soup to appeal to Western audiences (who'd presumably not understand the cultural reference to Japanese dumplings in fish broth). Regardless, this strange bastardised clash of cultural foods is rather nice.

I normally make miso soup (you really do need a chunky-free, thin broth or consommť style of soup - cream of tomato simply will not do) and then I add Asda's thin and crispy vegetable pizza (3 for £3, which is quite a bargain).

Ingredients needed:
1 x pizza
1 x onion
1 x smallish piece of dried konbu (optional)
Some x savoury fermented soybean paste (Japanese miso is best, but Korean and Chinese will work - I often use Korean since it's easier to get hold of)

Method:
1) Slice the onion fine and gently fry in a small pot until golden
2) Disolve soybean paste in hot water and add to pot (I use a heaped tablespoon for a whole pot, but you should adjust this to taste - add more water later if too salty)
3) Gently simmer this with the piece of dried konbu (be sure to remove konbu later on, and throw it away)
4) Heat pizza
5) Cut pizza into 8ths
6) Submerge one slice at a time, and eat with chopsticks as and when you feel it has been submerged for long enough (try varying the times)
7) Finish off by drinking the soup


Chopsticks are essential, since it allows you to manipulate each slice more easily, for dipping, dredging, twisting and eating. It's also a good idea to get a thin and crispy pizza, since it stays crispier for longer than a deep crust one, which is too spongy. Also, having chunky topping pieces is a good idea (the Asda T&C Vegetable pizza comes with lots of onions and red/yellow peppers, plus spinach, and makes for the perfect addition), since they'll fall off into the soup and make it taste better. The warm soup will also keep the cheese soft and yummy.

The above serves two people. If the other person is a date, offer to share the same soup bowl for pizza dipping, and possibly have some candles as well. The chopsticks also allows easy feeding of each-other.


PRO TIPS:
Avoid having a moustache when eating with company.
Don't tell company you got the idea from a videogame.


If anyone else tries this, post some photos. Or mention your own variations on soup and pizza combinations.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:21 pm        Reply with quote

This actually sounds pretty fucking tasty. Anything else it could be tried with other than Miso soup?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:31 pm        Reply with quote

Can you show us a picture of the final dish? Also, did Kojima invent this dish, some kind of "this is the foooooood of the FUTURE" prediction gone terribly right?

Edit: I read the rest of your post, but I like the idea of "the _____ of the future", so I'm keeping the text there.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:43 pm        Reply with quote

nothingxs wrote:
This actually sounds pretty fucking tasty. Anything else it could be tried with other than Miso soup?


I dunno, sure. Whatever you like, but from my experience, it would need to be broth-like, which miso soup is. No big chunky vegetables or huge pieces of stuff, and not thick and porridgy like cream of tomato and so on.

So maybe: chicken soup, leek and onion soup, possibly some kind of beef broth, beetroot soup (barszcz) would be another good one. Something thin.

I'd show a final picture, but I've no camera (also, I had rice tonight, not Neo Kobe Pizza). Just imagine a pizza slice sitting in a thin liquidy soup, about to be picked up with chopsticks.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:56 pm        Reply with quote

How do u eat a slice of pizza with chop sticks? I can't imagine balancing it well at all...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:18 pm        Reply with quote

Grab the middle of the slice with the chopsticks, and then point the pointy-end towards your mouth and bite. Now it's a bit more horizontal and easier to pick up.

The trick is cutting a large pizza into 8 slices.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:26 pm        Reply with quote

True fact!

For one year I attended a boarding school with a cafeteria that had a regular weekly menu. This featured, for lunch on Mondays, Pizza.

Also, as a dinner option on Wednesdays, Pizza Soup.

Not even joking.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:31 pm        Reply with quote

if this gets frontpaged I'll get banned
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:52 pm        Reply with quote

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8402489608120918384&q=neo+kobe+pizza
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:39 am        Reply with quote

Nice snag there, Metal! Hey, where's mine?

I want my Pizza! Where's my Pizza?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:06 am        Reply with quote

Just sounds like to me cream of tomato is the sensible choice for this
people dip pizza in sauces
cream of tomato is pretty saucy

people put cheese in cream of tomato
pizza is covered in cheese AND TOMATO!

Post pics to prove its not revolting
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:08 am        Reply with quote

Just sounds like to me cream of tomato is the sensible choice for this
people dip pizza in sauces
cream of tomato is pretty saucy

people put cheese in cream of tomato
pizza is covered in cheese AND TOMATO!

Post pics to prove its not revolting
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:22 am        Reply with quote

les meat wrote:
Just sounds like to me cream of tomato is the sensible choice for this
people dip pizza in sauces
cream of tomato is pretty saucy

people put cheese in cream of tomato
pizza is covered in cheese AND TOMATO!

Post pics to prove its not revolting


I think the point is it needs to be a different taste than one that is normally associated with pizza. Adding tomato flavor to pizza isn't that palette grabbing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:53 am        Reply with quote

Crikey, they actually front-paged this.

Good point with the tomato comment. Maybe a thick soup of a different flavour will work well, I've not tried anything other than miso.

WORD OF ADVICE:
I tried a different pizza the other day, one that's supposedly a more luxurious brand to the basic, super-cheap Asda range (it cost three times as much), and I found that despite being described as Thin and Crispy, its base was quite crumbly. Like dried, flakey sponge almost. Very porous. Horrid stuff.

Anyway, being so porous, it soaked up the soup really quickly and went soggy. So, when looking for pizza, make sure it has a dry, non-porous, non-flakey, non-crumbly based, similar to the kind you'll find at pizza places which still use stoneware ovens.

I guess it goes to show, more expensive does not mean better quality.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:28 pm        Reply with quote

I can't believe they front paged this without it containing a picture of soup drenched pizza!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:14 pm        Reply with quote

Doing a google search for "Asda's pizza" reveals that I probably can't buy it in America.

It also brings this thread up as the third search result.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:05 am        Reply with quote

I've always wanted to play that game and now after seeing that i want it even more!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:16 pm        Reply with quote

I discover that Kotaku actually made a news item out of this. What a head trip, man.

Has anyone actually tried this? Because seriously, it costs next to nothing and is fairly easy, so I would have guessed that lots of people would have tried it, just for a laugh.

Anyway, I believe the correct terms for the desired base is "stone baked."



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:05 pm        Reply with quote

Hope uhh, bumping a two-year-old Force Feedback thread isn't too frowned upon, but anyway...

I tried this last night with a couple friends (who haven't played enough Snatcher to get to this scene :/ ) using some stuff I had around. Two cans of Progresso chicken noodle soup and a Freschetta (nice brand) Rising Crust, so not exactly the Asda you describe (not sure what would be the American equivalent). It was pretty damn goood! The crust was fairly thick but wasn't as spongy and absorbent as the other pizzas you tried. It was 4 meat so there was plenty of stuff in the soup afterward, which made for good soup.

They both enjoyed it and I'm planning on trying it with different soups and pizzas. Hope I can get them to play Snatcher, now...

This was after I saw your post on the HG101 blog, Sketch. So, kudos!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:46 am        Reply with quote

I want photos, darn it
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:37 am        Reply with quote

Photos, taken by me, one-handed, near the bottom of this page:
http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2009/08/cooking-with-jeremy-blaustein.html

Plus other people's photos, a link to Destructoid, plus a short audio interview (on Megaupload) with Jeremy Blaustein where he offers cooking advice.

Bon appetit.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:14 am        Reply with quote

How does a pizza stone work? How do you make a pizza crispy normally? I am having trouble making my pizzas crispy. I have a pizza stone, but don't know how to use it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:40 am        Reply with quote

Leave the pizza stone in the oven all the time. When the oven is preheated, put your pie right on the hot stone.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:06 am        Reply with quote

hey guys can you tell me how to make french pizza stuff????
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:48 am        Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:03 am        Reply with quote

Now I'm legitimately hungry for some fucking Neo Kobe.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:02 pm        Reply with quote

Weirdly I just came across these two year old pictures on my phone.





The pizza was home made, but we ordered out for the miso soup.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:13 pm        Reply with quote

That looks delicious. I hate you.
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i really wasn't convinced in any way until i saw those pictures
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:07 pm        Reply with quote

I highly recommend it. The salty flavor of the miso really works with pizza for reasons I don't really understand.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:23 pm        Reply with quote

Sketch wrote:
http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2009/08/cooking-with-jeremy-blaustein.html


It's interesting that he mentions in this article using spring onion pankcake (chong yao beng), as I put those in (usually dumpling and noodle) soup all the time, but had never made a Neo Kobe connection.

I'm eating one or two meals of soup a day, at the moment. And now I'm sort of craving this. I hope someone hasn't eaten my miso by the time I get back home.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:37 pm        Reply with quote

What is that beverage in the picture Laurel?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:48 am        Reply with quote

Big K Sparkling Punch?

It's Kroger's store brand. I thought they're a national chain, but I might be wrong (or assuming things). None of their flavors were too notable expect Tropical Smash (RIP).
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:21 am        Reply with quote

i made a MUSHROOM BURGER (the burgers actually made out of mushrooms)



I bought some INSTANT MISO today, I'm totally getting my Neo Kobe on.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:02 pm        Reply with quote

That looks amazing!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:00 am        Reply with quote

Hmm, would pizza rolls be cheating?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:38 am        Reply with quote

Don't make me crave hamburgers. Is that pesto in there?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:02 am        Reply with quote

yes basil and pinenuts
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:55 am        Reply with quote

i am perplexed by your food

i am still in love with neo kobe pizza, however
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:50 pm        Reply with quote

I'm guessing the bread came with the soup...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:17 am        Reply with quote

Whoa, I never saw this post before. This sounds really fucking good, actually.
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